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Can someone help me get Atmos audio to my receiver? I can't get it to work. Thanks
The C6 doesn't support Atmos

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Cannot watch 4K Channels in 4K

Recently when trying to view a Directv 4K channel on my 65C6 I keep getting the message to the affect that my tv is not 4K and therefore I am viewing the program in 480P. Have successfully watched 4K channels before so don’t know why I can’t now. So could this be a tv or a Directv issue? Any ideas?
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Quick question, does anyone know if the C6 accepts RGB Full or 444 on any input or only in PC Mode? Thanks
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Recently when trying to view a Directv 4K channel on my 65C6 I keep getting the message to the affect that my tv is not 4K and therefore I am viewing the program in 480P. Have successfully watched 4K channels before so don’t know why I can’t now. So could this be a tv or a Directv issue? Any ideas?


Did you go back into the directv settings and make sure 4K was selected under resolution?
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Did you go back into the directv settings and make sure 4K was selected under resolution?
Yes the 4K box is checked.
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hey guys i havent updated in forever im on software 05.30.25 , now all my stuff is set up how i want it and its work great for me ,now im getting a onscreen notice to update to 05.30.60 ,,should i update or will this mess my tv or picture up ??? also i have one pixal that stays lite up fo about 30 seconds after i turn off my tv is there anything i can do about this ? i had this tv since it came out a few years ago and its been awesome so far besides this one pixal that poped up about 2 months ago this tv is so clear the blacks are perfect my color is perfect . just wondering if i should update this firm ware or just leave it be how it is
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hey guys i havent updated in forever im on software 05.30.25 , now all my stuff is set up how i want it and its work great for me ,now im getting a onscreen notice to update to 05.30.60 ,,should i update or will this mess my tv or picture up ??? also i have one pixal that stays lite up fo about 30 seconds after i turn off my tv is there anything i can do about this ? i had this tv since it came out a few years ago and its been awesome so far besides this one pixal that poped up about 2 months ago this tv is so clear the blacks are perfect my color is perfect . just wondering if i should update this firm ware or just leave it be how it is
Go for it. 05.30.60 is working fine for me.
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Quick question, does anyone know if the C6 accepts RGB Full or 444 on any input or only in PC Mode? Thanks
Anyone have an answer for this? It seems on my Apple TV that it works without having PC Mode selected.

Edit: it seems that I'm getting way better color on my Apple TV (in the UI and menus and stuff) when I set my settings to SDR (4:4:4 or 4:2:0). Does anyone know why this is? I'm losing my mind

Edit 2: yeah this is very strange and I hope someone can explain it to me. I'm getting a worse image on 4K HDR 4:2:2 with all filters and crap turned off (HDR game option) than I am with 4K SDR 4:2:0 (Game option, all filters and crap turned off). Why is this? Shouldn't I be getting a better image with HDR on? The colors look washed out compared to SDR. Someone please explain this to me. Like I said my brain is killing me, I don't get how I'm getting worse color with better settings.

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Go for it. 05.30.60 is working fine for me.
But be warned, you won't be able to revert back to the firmware easily with the newer firmware updates.
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But be warned, you won't be able to revert back to the firmware easily with the newer firmware updates.
i upgraded new software using USB stick no issues so far which is good thing in my opinion, i took may be 5 minutes or less to update.

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I have the 2016 LG C6 OLED and last night I was watching John Wick on my ATV4K in Dolby Vision and noticed every few seconds the black level would raise up (kind of like a white flash) and go back down. This is really noticeable on darker scenes. I read on a reddit post that if you go into the tru-motion settings on the TV and change the de-blur and judder to 0 it gets rid of it. It does not, but makes it less prominent. It still is very noticeable. Surprising too as I have watched several movies in Dolby Vision on my Oppo 203 and have not run into this issue.
I am on the latest software version for the tv (05.30 something) and latest for the ATV4K as well. Does anyone have a fix or solution to get rid or reduce this to where it is not as noticeable?
Considering there is so many DV movies on the ATV4K and now that I have noticed it, it would be extremely disappointing to have to see this in every DV movie.

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Anyone have an answer for this? It seems on my Apple TV that it works without having PC Mode selected.

Edit: it seems that I'm getting way better color on my Apple TV (in the UI and menus and stuff) when I set my settings to SDR (4:4:4 or 4:2:0). Does anyone know why this is? I'm losing my mind

Edit 2: yeah this is very strange and I hope someone can explain it to me. I'm getting a worse image on 4K HDR 4:2:2 with all filters and crap turned off (HDR game option) than I am with 4K SDR 4:2:0 (Game option, all filters and crap turned off). Why is this? Shouldn't I be getting a better image with HDR on? The colors look washed out compared to SDR. Someone please explain this to me. Like I said my brain is killing me, I don't get how I'm getting worse color with better settings.
Apple TV renders the menu in SDR. When you set the output to HDR in the menu, it's doing some approximation to convert to HDR range which then the TV processes to convert to a range that it thinks is correct. Long story short, you should keep it on SDR menu and turn on frame rate and dynamic range matching so that it only triggers HDR for HDR content.

The TV will accept 4:4:4 or 4:2:0 in any mode but only display 4:2:0. If you want 4:4:4 actually displayed you need to put it on PC mode (input label). However, I've read there are issues with HDR at 4:4:4 likely due to chip limitations.. Remember these sets were released in early 2016 being designed in 2015. Most of this stuff was in its infancy then compared to now, at 4 years later.
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LG's latest response to the black glow issue.


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The only circumstance where a perfect black can be achieved is inside a black hole which is literally the absence of light.

Thank goodness they've never used the term "perfect black" while selling OLEDs before.
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LG's latest response to the black glow issue.





Thank goodness they've never used the term "perfect black" while selling OLEDs before.
Exactly, their advertising materials say "Perfect Blacks," meaning a shade of black. So they can produce perfect shades of black.
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I have the 2016 LG C6 OLED and last night I was watching John Wick on my ATV4K in Dolby Vision and noticed every few seconds the black level would raise up (kind of like a white flash) and go back down. This is really noticeable on darker scenes. I read on a reddit post that if you go into the tru-motion settings on the TV and change the de-blur and judder to 0 it gets rid of it. It does not, but makes it less prominent. It still is very noticeable. Surprising too as I have watched several movies in Dolby Vision on my Oppo 203 and have not run into this issue.
I am on the latest software version for the tv (05.30 something) and latest for the ATV4K as well. Does anyone have a fix or solution to get rid or reduce this to where it is not as noticeable?
Considering there is so many DV movies on the ATV4K and now that I have noticed it, it would be extremely disappointing to have to see this in every DV movie.

Thanks,

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Try setting brightness to 49 when you watch DV instead of 50. For me true black is only possible at brightness 49 in DV, and even then on a 100% black frame, you may see slight glow, no matter how low the brightness goes. But there doesn't appear to be any glow in the black areas when there is some image on screen, even a dark scene. I've tested this by watching a dark scene in a dark room and putting my eyes up to the screen with my hands cupped around it. In the letterbox, there is no glow, even in a dark scene. If I increase brightness to 50, there is some glow.

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Just noticed these black spots on my screen, I ran the clear screen noise already


Right under the Science Channel text, it’s not burn but black splotches that have developed.


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Just noticed these black spots on my screen, I ran the clear screen noise already


Right under the Science Channel text, it’s not burn but black splotches that have developed.


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are these on all inputs and in built in apps ?

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Just noticed these black spots on my screen, I ran the clear screen noise already


Right under the Science Channel text, it’s not burn but black splotches that have developed.


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Why do you feel it's not BI? Looks like it to me. Run this test...if it is BI please report it in the Master BI thread https://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-ol...l#post58087190 ...and contact LG service for screen replacement.


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Why do you feel it's not BI? Looks like it to me. Run this test...if it is BI please report it in the Master BI thread https://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-ol...l#post58087190 ...and contact LG service for screen replacement.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEsCprsVJaQ&t=48s


Those spots don’t match up with anything I even watch, they’re just In a random location, that’s why I thought it wasn’t burn in


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It doesn’t show up on a blue or green screen, I have geek squads 5 year warranty so I’m having them come out.

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Here are mine for HDR, Listed STD on the left, followed by Bright on the Right.
I generally prefer HDR Bright vs. HDR STD, but may change depending on what I am watching. Settings are to individual taste, I am in the commerical printing business (42 years) , and I can tell you from experience no two people see color exactly the same. I do not have grey bars with these settings, this morning watching GotG v2, eye candy for HDR.

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It doesn’t show up on a blue or green screen, I have geek squads 5 year warranty so I’m having them come out.

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You will get a new Tv, Geek Squad will not be able to fix it. this is some strange issue, if you spend that kind on money on geek squad protection ask them to replace tv.

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i upgraded new software using USB stick no issues so far which is good thing in my opinion, i took may be 5 minutes or less to update.

I'm still on firmware 4.31.20 (last good firmware before blacks got messed up).
My TV still wants me to update to 5.30.03.
I wonder if anyone has tried to update from 4.31.20 to the latest 5.30.60 ?
Perhaps if you skip all the versions in between, the latest is OK.


Also state your type of panel as I think the black issue was only on B6 panels ?


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I'm still on firmware 4.31.20 (last good firmware before blacks got messed up).
My TV still wants me to update to 5.30.03.
I wonder if anyone has tried to update from 4.31.20 to the latest 5.30.60 ?
Perhaps if you skip all the versions in between, the latest is OK.


Also state your type of panel as I think the black issue was only on B6 panels ?


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The black issue is only the B6 yes. People have tried skipping updates in the past with older firmwares, and that did nothing, but there doesn't seem to be enough confirmation one way or another that blacks have been fixed with this firmware at all, so I wouldn't risk it until you know for sure.

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This is only my casual opinion but my DV blacks look as black as ever with the new update.
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05.30.65 is out
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05.30.65 is out
Neat. Anyone know what it does? I see 05.30.60 on the site as the most recent and it looks like just a security update . I'm still on the original firmware. No intention of changing based on things I've seen in this thread unless that has changed. Input appreciated. Thanks!

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My 55C6P just got upgraded to 5.30.60.

Still the best blacks in captivity!
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My 55C6P just got upgraded to 5.30.60.

Still the best blacks in captivity!
I guess your'e not in the "new firmware ruins everything" camp? Are you having better quality with new firmware? I'm still on the original and can't really get a straight answer on if I should upgrade or not. I'm a b6'er though so maybe it's different for the C6.

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I guess your'e not in the "new firmware ruins everything" camp? Are you having better quality with new firmware? I'm still on the original and can't really get a straight answer on if I should upgrade or not. I'm a b6'er though so maybe it's different for the C6.
My understanding is the elevated blacks were a B6 issue exclusively so I have had no qualms at all regarding updates on my C6. I literally just did the update so I’ve not had time to test for any post update differences (watching the Stanley Cup finals now). Interestingly the firmware on my remote updated as well...
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