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Signing off. Just bought the C9 model. Thank you all for your assistance and answering my question throughout the years.

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Signing off. Just bought the C9 model. Thank you all for your assistance and answering my question throughout the years.
Nice, I'm waiting for 2020/21, what did you do with your B6/C6? I often wonder how I'm going to get rid of mine when time comes to buy a new one, I haven't got any other room for it and I'm not really sure I would want to sell it either due to the issues OLEDS can get, don't want someone contacting me a week later saying they have screen burn, lol. and wanting their money back.

Guess I could give it away to family or friends.
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I don't really see much of a reason to upgrade at this point. Doesn't seem like OLED tech has improved much since our sets came out. Let me know when they come out with 2000 nit OLEDs or equivalent technology.

As long as this TV is still working fine, I have zero reason to get anything new.

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Nice, I'm waiting for 2020/21, what did you do with your B6/C6? I often wonder how I'm going to get rid of mine when time comes to buy a new one, I haven't got any other room for it and I'm not really sure I would want to sell it either due to the issues OLEDS can get, don't want someone contacting me a week later saying they have screen burn, lol. and wanting their money back.



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I don't really see much of a reason to upgrade at this point. Doesn't seem like OLED tech has improved much since our sets came out. Let me know when they come out with 2000 nit OLEDs or equivalent technology.

As long as this TV is still working fine, I have zero reason to get anything new.

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Not completely true. With HDR the change is noticeable. It’s safe to say that the experience is more mature. I have seen colors which I never saw before on UHD Blu-ray. With SDR the change is little If any. But HDR is so much intenser and rich compared to 2016 models. Nits is not everything, processing is more important in my opinion.

Also I made the jump from 55 to 65 inch.

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Not completely true. With HDR the change is noticeable. It’s safe to say that the experience is more mature. I have seen colors which I never saw before on UHD Blu-ray. With SDR the change is little If any. But HDR is so much intenser and rich compared to 2016 models. Nits is not everything, processing is more important in my opinion.

Also I made the jump from 55 to 65 inch.
I watched yesterday’s Texas Tech/Oklahoma State college football 4K HLG HDR presentation from Fox Sports on DirecTV. I have a hard time believing a C9 could throw a better pic than what my eyes saw with my calibrated C6.

But as they say “beauty is in the eyes of the beholder”...
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Not completely true. With HDR the change is noticeable. It’s safe to say that the experience is more mature. I have seen colors which I never saw before on UHD Blu-ray. With SDR the change is little If any. But HDR is so much intenser and rich compared to 2016 models. Nits is not everything, processing is more important in my opinion.

Also I made the jump from 55 to 65 inch.
The pixel structure still limits colors on the higher nit content, that's no different with the newer OLEDs. The difference you might see is in tonemapping. Because the displays have higher absolute peaks, the tonemapping curve is likely based on that even though that's more of a modification of how ABL works than a brighter panel, so on average, I would expect content to be a bit darker. It's sort of like how the older HDR Game mode expanded on highlights and color while making the image darker, but to less of an extreme.

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I've been "Chasing the Dragon" on TV Tech for years but I've been so happy with my C6 I really do think I'm going to stay put for a long time. Even when I go into stores I'm neither enticed or interested in walking by that section.
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I have the 4K Firestick and have it set to 2160p; however, when I change inputs, the firestick reverts to 1080P.
Is anyone else using the 4K Firestick with the B6 having this issue.


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I have the 4K Firestick and have it set to 2160p; however, when I change inputs, the firestick reverts to 1080P.
Is anyone else using the 4K Firestick with the B6 having this issue.
In my system, the Fire TV Stick 4K reverts from 2160p to Auto. This results in most apps (except Prime) using 1080p, but allows Dolby Vision and HDR-10. My assumption, which I have not verified, is that this behavior is a fallback procedure on the part of the Fire TV Stick 4K due to the lack of support for 4K60 Dolby Vision in the B6.

My Fire TV Stick 4K is direct to a Denon AVR, then to the B6. I have found that sequencing the power of the AVR and TV such that the TV is always on when the AVR is powered on or off results in the Fire TV Stick 4K remaining on 2160p output. It does not matter which input on the AVR is active during the power sequence.

In other words, turn the TV on first, then the AVR. Likewise, turn the AVR off first, then the TV.

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I've been "Chasing the Dragon" on TV Tech for years but I've been so happy with my C6 I really do think I'm going to stay put for a long time. Even when I go into stores I'm neither enticed or interested in walking by that section.
I couldn't agree more. My C6 looks and performs outstandingly.
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I'd like to upgrade eventually but I feel like if it's not broke don't need to fix it. LOL! Plus the wife wouldn't approve. LOL! Still running the 4.31.20 firmware as I'm afraid to lose my inky blacks with the updates.
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I'd like to upgrade eventually but I feel like if it's not broke don't need to fix it. LOL! Plus the wife wouldn't approve. LOL! Still running the 4.31.20 firmware as I'm afraid to lose my inky blacks with the updates.
Hey there @superman ! I check this forum every once in a blue moon to see if Samsung has done anything to address the dreaded "GLOW" and was surprised to see you make an appearance. Was thinking you must have moved on to another set. I'm also guilty of being a regular in this forum when these sets first rolled out... then life got in the way and I moved on to other things. Like you I'm also still running 4.31.20. Others have reported they upgraded their firmware and did not experience the glow but also like you... I'm not willing I'm not willing to gamble and lose my inky blacks. Considering what I paid for this set I figure it will be years before I'm willing to replace it... unless it dies in the meantime. [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/eek.gif[/IMG]

Although you and I more or less dropped off the radar... I have to give Kudos to @morphinapg for being consistent contributor to this forum thread over the years and providing lots of great advice and support.
I'm in the same boat! Still on 4 firmware!
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... when 12-bit OLED panels start appearing, so we can get a real Dolby Vision experience.
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The main benefit of Dolby Vision is the tonemapping, not the 12bit. I'm actually convinced nobody would be able to tell the difference between 10bit and 12bit DV side by side on a 12bit panel. You'd do better to invest your time in expanding gamut usage.

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It's a 200mbps connection and I get close to that on my PC ethernet. Router is about 6ft away. I do however have the 2.4GHz and 5GHz on the same SSID and I've seen that annoyingly some devices will prefer the 2.4 even ridiculously close to the router so that may be what's up.

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Agree! I hope this eventually happens but I'm not optimistic.

Just finished watching Aladdin (2019) 3D which I had to get from the UK like all Disney 3D releases since they aren't sold in the US anymore :-( Thank goodness they are still making them at all.

Absolutely terrific 3D conversion! Super colorful, high quality IQ eye candy! I could never imagine watching this in 2D. It would just not look right.

My C6 simply has to last forever. That's not too much to ask, is it??
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Agree! I hope this eventually happens but I'm not optimistic.

Just finished watching Aladdin (2019) 3D which I had to get from the UK like all Disney 3D releases since they aren't sold in the US anymore :-( Thank goodness they are still making them at all.

Absolutely terrific 3D conversion! Super colorful, high quality IQ eye candy! I could never imagine watching this in 2D. It would just not look right.

My C6 simply has to last forever. That's not too much to ask, is it??
Glad to hear the 3D conversion on Aladdin was terrific. I have it coming from the UK and am looking forward to watching it on my C6! I loved watching Alita: Battle Angel in 3D recently and the wife and I are still enjoying a good 3D pic, when we can find them.
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Are there any 'recommended' settings for 3D on the C6P?
I reset my TV settings a few weeks ago due to an issue with DolbyVision (it turned out to be a setting on the Oppo 203 and not the TV) and logged all my settings except for the 3D ones. The 3D seems much more tamed down now, and I can't recall what I had it at.
Same for the UDP-203 if that has 3D settings (for actual 3D content and not just 2D -> 3D conversion)

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Are there any 'recommended' settings for 3D on the C6P?
I reset my TV settings a few weeks ago due to an issue with DolbyVision (it turned out to be a setting on the Oppo 203 and not the TV) and logged all my settings except for the 3D ones. The 3D seems much more tamed down now, and I can't recall what I had it at.
Same for the UDP-203 if that has 3D settings (for actual 3D content and not just 2D -> 3D conversion)

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The main one is make sure OLED Light is all the way up. The 3D glasses darken the image to the point where even OLED at max you're probably not going to get as bright of a picture as 2D, but you might get pretty close with max OLED.

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The main one is make sure OLED Light is all the way up. The 3D glasses darken the image to the point where even OLED at max you're probably not going to get as bright of a picture as 2D, but you might get pretty close with max OLED.

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Thank you! I'll try these - my question was actually more regarding the 3D options on the TV (it has 2 sliders - I believe 3D depth (0-20) and Viewpoint (-10 - 10). I've been trying to play around with these to see what gives the most depth, but haven't had luck figuring that part out yet
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Thank you! I'll try these - my question was actually more regarding the 3D options on the TV (it has 2 sliders - I believe 3D depth (0-20) and Viewpoint (-10 - 10). I've been trying to play around with these to see what gives the most depth, but haven't had luck figuring that part out yet
The 3d depth is not the same for everyone. You will need to mess around and find what's best for you.

Each person's distance from the set and height are not the same most of the time so viewing angles will be different.

Even using someone else's settings doesn't mean you're going to like what you see. Everybody sees things and likes things differently, so your best bet is just to mess around and get the settings to wear you like it. Everyone's different, everybody's taste are different. No one settings are going to be liked by everybody

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Thank you! I'll try these - my question was actually more regarding the 3D options on the TV (it has 2 sliders - I believe 3D depth (0-20) and Viewpoint (-10 - 10). I've been trying to play around with these to see what gives the most depth, but haven't had luck figuring that part out yet
I would only mess with those settings if something feels wrong. IIRC they reset every time, because they're only intended as a fix for certain content.

You can't actually make a real 3D image have more or less depth with settings. The depth setting is for 2D-to-3D conversion I believe. What viewport does is bring the image closer or further away. By default, you shouldn't need to change this. But sometimes, if a program has a lot of crosstalk, it's likely because they have misaligned convergence. If you take of the glasses, nothing's in focus. So that tool allows you to fix that to make sure there is an object in focus.

But these sets have nearly no crosstalk, so that setting is not necessary in most cases even with content like that. I know I used a setting like viewport to fix issues on my plasma a lot, because of crosstalk, but that's not an issue here.

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Thank you!

One last question on 3D -- I got a new couch recently which is a big lower. My TV stand is fixed (wooden) so I can't angle or raise/lower it.. this is giving me a bit of crosstalk at the top of the set. I believe it's just an issue of needing to be at eye-level with it. So far, moving the couch further back has been the only fix which also tends to lose some of that 3D effect. Is there any workaround for this, or any suggestions?
I read one person put some sort of plastic on the back of the stand to help tilt it forward.. but that seems like a disaster waiting to happen. Besides a new couch or new TV stand, any other easy fixes, even if temporary (I don't watch a ton of 3D)
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Yeah that's the only way to get crosstalk, be either too close or be off center vertically. I personally find that sitting further doesn't actually reduce the 3D effect though, but enhance it. I think the reason for that has something to do with depth being relative to the distance from the screen, but idk for sure. I just know if you get really close, it looks flatter.

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Thank you!

One last question on 3D -- I got a new couch recently which is a big lower. My TV stand is fixed (wooden) so I can't angle or raise/lower it.. this is giving me a bit of crosstalk at the top of the set. I believe it's just an issue of needing to be at eye-level with it. So far, moving the couch further back has been the only fix which also tends to lose some of that 3D effect. Is there any workaround for this, or any suggestions?
I read one person put some sort of plastic on the back of the stand to help tilt it forward.. but that seems like a disaster waiting to happen. Besides a new couch or new TV stand, any other easy fixes, even if temporary (I don't watch a ton of 3D)
I had the same issue with my 65 inch C6. I was unable to gain any distance in the room I have the panel so what I did initially is raise my seating with a pillow and that resolved the issue entirely. Eventually I replaced my theater seats for higher ones (my original were a little low) but either approach works successfully.
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My 2016 55" B6 has been pure joy to watch for nearly 3 years, until yesterday evening when while watching a Netflix show, instantly the overall picture hue became shades of bright magenta, whites became a vivid yellow, and basically now all colors are whacked to a different hue. All input sources look the same. I tried the OLED noise cleaner to no avail, and beyond the wacky hues it seems to be working fine. I'm about the contact LG about this problem, and I fear the worse. We average about 25 hours a week using it. I'll look into getting a picture showing the problem posted here, but hopefully for now my description is enough for someone to chime in on what just happen to my TV. Thanks for reading.
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My B6P (and EF9500) are connected via Ethernet. Once in a blue moon I might see the message that tider is seeing as soon as I power on my HT system. Immediately after powering on, the "LAN cable connected" appears.



I never thought anything of it really. As I said, it doesn't happen to me enough to be a nuisance. I thought maybe it was because the B6P, being powered down, not detecting any LAN connection.



Both my displays are on the wall and ALL of my wiring is 50' with my AV rack in a closet so I'll live with it...


I have since connected an Ethernet cable directly from the router to the tv and I’m still getting the same message. Only thing I know left to do is try a different router.

I called LG customer service and they recommended I do a reset on the tv. My set was professionally calibrated by ChadB, so I was afraid that would wipe my calibration.



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I have since connected an Ethernet cable directly from the router to the tv and I’m still getting the same message. Only thing I know left to do is try a different router.

I called LG customer service and they recommended I do a reset on the tv. My set was professionally calibrated by ChadB, so I was afraid that would wipe my calibration.



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I mentioned having this problem a while back. I think it's my internet. I've noticed service dropping out for short periods like 30 seconds. It's possible the TV sees this as the ethernet cable being disconnected, so when the service resumes, it thinks you reconnected the cable.

Connecting with wifi has solved it, because it's always connected to wifi even if there's no internet.

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