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B6 has a completely different SoC running the TV and runs a different software stack. It may be a bug in the way the C6 is processing DV.



I also use monoprice premium certified cables.



The C6 just acts WEIRD sometimes when getting DV from HDMI. I briefly had a Sony X700 blu-ray player and the Vudu app was unusable for it. Movies would have dropped frames and the menu system in the TV while it was playing content was so laggy as to be nearly unusable.



Another thing to watch out for is really be sure you are sending 4k/24 to the TV since our TVs don't do DV at 60fps over HDMI and if you don't turn on the match framerate option, it will fall back to 1080p60 DV. 1080p60 DV has no such lag issues with my TV.


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I definitely experience lipsync delay with DV content, but I applied an offset in the receiver to correct for it, and it doesn't seem to affect anything else as far as I can tell.

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C6 here so maybe that's the deal

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Has anyone tried the new Shield TV with DV from Netflix? Does it also have sync issues?
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Sorry as I know this has been probably answered a million times in here but is it confirmed that proper settings for Dolby Vision content is to have OLED light set at 50? Is pretty much everyone in agreement on that?
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That would be nice, I have a gaming PC connected to the B6.

No more screen tearing would make gaming on it an even better experience.

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Has anyone tried the new Shield TV with DV from Netflix? Does it also have sync issues?
The Shield has lipsync and native framerate issues even on SDR and HDR10, so I don't really expect the new model to change anything about that since its essentially the same device.
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So is there no way to resolve the atv audio sync issue when connected to hdmi? I know arc or turning of match frame rate resolves the issue but both of those options introduce their own issues/limitations. I currently have my avr set to 80ms but it’s a moving target. 6 months ago it was set at 30ms. Every atv update just amplifies the issue.

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Only 2 channel sound though for some reason.

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Ah, I couldn't tell because I have headphones on now and typically use my chromecast during the day anyway, for Atmos

Also, the magic remote pointer doesn't work

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I got the app installed but when I try to run the app it gives me an error message saying it can't connect. So I am running Disney plus via Xbox One S right now. Hope this gets fixed.
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I got the app installed but when I try to run the app it gives me an error message saying it can't connect. So I am running Disney plus via Xbox One S right now. Hope this gets fixed.
It works fine just a lot of traffic right now some some devices and content are having problems.

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My biggest question of the day, answered. Great news!

I also read that the first seven Episodes of Star Wars are 4K HDR on Disney+. If only I could get it to work/connect...

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I also read that the first seven Episodes of Star Wars are 4K HDR on Disney+. If only I could get it to work/connect...
Every star wars movie. All 8 episodes and the two spinoffs too.

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Over 100 movies available in 4K HDR.

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getting the best Sound and Video from streaming sources

Several posts back a discussion was going about having to choose between 4K/HDR or Atmos with streaming sources.
I currently have the B6, a Denon 5200, and a Chromecast Ultra.
I currently run with the Chromecast plugged into the TV (with optical audio out from TV to AVR) and I get 4K with HDR but no Atmos.
If I plugged the Chromecast into the AVR, I won't get 4K/HDR, but I could get Atmos.

I'm not looking to upgrade my AVR or TV at this time, so: What is the easiest cheapest way to resolved this issue?

I heard someone mention HDFury devices? Is that still what people use these days? Which one? Does it work flawlessly and without having to constantly fiddle with settings? When I looked into it a couple years ago it seemed iffy.
Would something cheaper like this ViewHD Extractor/Splitter[amazon] work just a well?
Should I buy another streamer besides the Chromecast in order to get access to more sources with Atmos? And why doesn't someone make a streamer with two HDMI outputs (like virtually all disc players have)? Ugh, I should have bought an Oppo when I had the chance (with it's handy HDMI-in port).

Anyway, my goal is: I'm looking to get HDR and Atmos from as many streaming options as possible with minimal fiddling and minimal money expenditure (until the next system upgrade later on). Thanks.

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Several posts back a discussion was going about having to choose between 4K/HDR or Atmos with streaming sources.
I currently have the B6, a Denon 5200, and a Chromecast Ultra.
I currently run with the Chromecast plugged into the TV (with optical audio out from TV to AVR) and I get 4K with HDR but no Atmos.
If I plugged the Chromecast into the AVR, I won't get 4K/HDR, but I could get Atmos.

I'm not looking to upgrade my AVR or TV at this time, so: What is the easiest cheapest way to resolved this issue?

I heard someone mention HDFury devices? Is that still what people use these days? Which one? Does it work flawlessly and without having to constantly fiddle with settings? When I looked into it a couple years ago it seemed iffy.
Would something cheaper like this ViewHD Extractor/Splitter[amazon] work just a well?
Should I buy another streamer besides the Chromecast in order to get access to more sources with Atmos? And why doesn't someone make a streamer with two HDMI outputs (like virtually all disc players have)? Ugh, I should have bought an Oppo when I had the chance (with it's handy HDMI-in port).

Anyway, my goal is: I'm looking to get HDR and Atmos from as many streaming options as possible with minimal fiddling and minimal money expenditure (until the next system upgrade later on). Thanks.
Not an expert but have been playing with an HDFury Vertex2 connected to my C6. I am in a similar boat but with an older AVR (hdmi 1.4) that doesn't support Atmos or arc. I was also using the optical out.

The Vertex2 is very versatile device and has excellent support, but I look at it as an HDMI deployment tool, not needed if your current equipment is fully hdcp compliant. The best thing about it for me is being able to really see what is going on with the EDID data. The Vertex2 has three hdmi outputs: 1-4k60, 1-full audio out, 1-1080p downmix. The way I am using it is to have the audio out hdmi feed back to my avr and the 4k60 go to the HDMI-2(arc) input on the lg.

The Vertex2 handles the ARC channel of the LG back to my AVR verified with the internal LG Apps. It also willdirectly pass DD+ verified by using a Amazon Firestick 4k through the full audio out. I have no way of testing this, but I believe this would yield Atmos sound. I have also experimented with an Apple TV 4k in the mix. The Atv passes PCM so I don't think this would yield Atmos but I'm not sure and have no way of testing in my setup.

The issues I ran into were that there was significant lipsync adjustment needed to get it to match up and it seems to be different values for different content (sdr,dv,HDR). It is possible that my AVR is not handling lypsync well either (yamaha RX-Z7) and adjustments are a pain as I have to log into a pc to use the master configuration program. When using arc, there is no lipsync issue but I don't think this would pass Atmos.

So as it is now, I am using the Vertex2 as an ARC bridge, and that is certainly a bit of a waste for such a device.
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Anyway, my goal is: I'm looking to get HDR and Atmos from as many streaming options as possible with minimal fiddling and minimal money expenditure (until the next system upgrade later on). Thanks.
For the cost of those HDfury devices you can just get a new receiver. Watch for sales.

And for online streaming sources my opinion is the ATV4k is the best streamer you can buy. And fits your minimal fiddling requirement. I have the same tv as you and it looks great.
I own or have owned most streamers and that's my go to. I owned a chromecast ultra and returned it.

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For the cost of those HDfury devices you can just get a new receiver. Watch for sales.

And for streaming sources my opinion is the ATV4k is the best streamer you can buy. And fits your minimal fiddling requirement. I have the same tv as you and it looks great.
I own or have owned most streamers and that's my go to.
I agree with all of the above. In fact I was torn between the HDFury and getting an Onkyo TX-RZ740 but figured I'd wait. I really like the Apple TV4K
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Thanks for your replies. I agree that the Apple streamer will get you Atmos from all the services (e.g. see the chart here: https://www.cnet.com/how-to/how-to-s...du-and-amazon/). It's on my short list of streamers to consider.

But the price analysis about the Fury vs a new AVR seems off. The Fury prices range from $149 to $299 which is *way* cheaper than any AVR I would buy. (It's actually more in line with the cost of a streamer or disc player.). My current 7.2.4 Denon was $1600 and my next Denon receiver will support 7.2.6 (a.k.a. 13.2) and will cost thousands, not hundreds.

If the Fury will work, it seems worth it to me to put the upgrade off a few years. (I'd rather run one input device through a $300 Fury than my entire system through a $300 AVR)
But if the Fury won't work, then it's a no-go and it's price versus an AVR is a moot point.

The ARC bridge post seems interesting, but isn't really in line with my use case, since I won't be using ARC and Atmos via ARC doesn't work on my B6 according to my internet research.

I was hoping to find someone who was running a setup pretty similar to mine and found a cheap solution to this common problem.

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But the price analysis about the Fury vs a new AVR seems off. The Fury prices range from $149 to $299 which is *way* cheaper than any AVR I would buy. (It's actually more in line with the cost of a streamer or disc player.). My current 7.2.4 Denon was $1600 and my next Denon receiver will support 7.2.6 (a.k.a. 13.2) and will cost thousands, not hundreds.

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Sure, but you can't really fully utilize the receiver you have now by feeding it optical out of the tv so it's sort of useless for you.

I'd still get a $300ish receiver(on sale) that you can at least utilize now instead of an HDfury. Since you're looking to spend some money anyways. Then you'd get atmos and dolby vision now rather than one or the other. Just my opinion. You may not be able to use all your speakers but it's still better than optical and not getting atmos at all. 2 of my speakers aren't being used until I upgrade receivers. But I don't even notice the loss of 2 of the surround speakers(going from 7.1 to 5.1.2 though I have the speakers for 7.1.2 or 5.1.4)

Sell your current receiver and add that money to that $300 and see what you can get. Sure it's not the receiver you'd get in the long term but it would work better with your setup you have now. Again, just my opinion.

And you can get some pretty crazy deals throughout november. When I got my receiver I paid less than half the cost most places were asking. Just waited and found one of those amazing deals.
I'm not sure there is a perfect solution here. Just trade offs.
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Thanks for your replies. I agree that the Apple streamer will get you Atmos from all the services (e.g. see the chart here: https://www.cnet.com/how-to/how-to-s...du-and-amazon/). It's on my short list of streamers to consider.

But the price analysis about the Fury vs a new AVR seems off. The Fury prices range from $149 to $299 which is *way* cheaper than any AVR I would buy. (It's actually more in line with the cost of a streamer or disc player.). My current 7.2.4 Denon was $1600 and my next Denon receiver will support 7.2.6 (a.k.a. 13.2) and will cost thousands, not hundreds.

If the Fury will work, it seems worth it to me to put the upgrade off a few years. (I'd rather run one input device through a $300 Fury than my entire system through a $300 AVR)
But if the Fury won't work, then it's a no-go and it's price versus an AVR is a moot point.

The ARC bridge post seems interesting, but isn't really in line with my use case, since I won't be using ARC and Atmos via ARC doesn't work on my B6 according to my internet research.

I was hoping to find someone who was running a setup pretty similar to mine and found a cheap solution to this common problem.

Agree on the pricing. My Yamaha was thousands back in the day. The TX-RZ740 is was looking at was msrp of $799. The Vertex2 I'm using is $399.

The Amazon link you provided in your first post might be an option since you don't need multiple inputs. Worth a try for $59 but you'll need to make sure your hdmi cables are 18gbs certified or it's a no go on all counts.
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I can't get the Disney+ app to install on my B6. I never updated mine to the firmware that caused the raised blacks issue; think that could be the problem? I've made sure it's connected to the internet and tried it with both wireless and wired. If it's cause I'm using an old firmware than I'll just use Disney+ with my Xbox One X. I've tried it multiple times in the past few hours and it won't install.

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I can't get the Disney+ app to install on my B6. I never updated mine to the firmware that caused the raised blacks issue; think that could be the problem? I've made sure it's connected to the internet and tried it with both wireless and wired. If it's cause I'm using an old firmware than I'll just use Disney+ with my Xbox One X. I've tried it multiple times in the past few hours and it won't install.
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Am I getting 4K resolution or not?

Data pop-up says: 69:9 1080p HDR PCM

Source is a 4K Ultra HD disc.

If not, where have I gone wrong on my settings? Please comment on any other settings that you see are incorrect or less than ideal. Thanks.

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Marantz SR5011-7.2 Channel A/V Receiver
OLED65B6P-65” 4K OLED HDTV

Blu-ray Player

Picture

3D Settings:
—3D Bluray Playback Mode: Auto
—Screen Size: 65 inch
TV Aspect Ratio: 16:9 Original
Resolution: Auto
Movie Frame (24p): Disc Content: Auto/Streaming Content; Auto
DVD 24Fs Conversion: Auto
Fit Screen Size: Size 4
HDMI Color Format: Auto
HDMI Deep Color: Off

Sound

Speaker Settings: Not Available
Digital Output: Bitstream (Unprocessed)
PCM Downsampling: Off
Dynamic Range Control: Auto
Downmixing Mode: Surround Compatible
DTS Neo:6 Mode: Cinema
Audio Sync: O ms
HDMI Audio Output: Auto


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HDMI Setup
--HDMI Audio Out: AVR
--HDMI Pass Through: On
****Pass Through Source: Blu-ray
****RC Source Select: Power On + Source
--HDMI Control: On
****ARC: On
****TV Audio Switching: On
****Power Off Control: All
****Power Saving: On
****Smart Menu: On

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--HDMI Video Output: Auto(Dual)
--Video Mode: Auto
--Video Conversion: On

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****Resolution (HDMI): Auto
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I'm interested in downgrading my firmware to fix the raised blacks issue and had a question. Is the following instructions/firmware still the best bet:

https://github.com/joey-astrologo/OLED55-65B6-Downgrade

If so, on step 2, should I be entering the computer's IP address?
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