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For Colorado folks, there's one on display at the Best Buy/Magnolia across from Park Meadows mall. Very nice, but pricy enough to make one double check the math against the cost of remodeling to accommodate a front projector and screen.
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Anyone knows the input lag spec of this 77-inch G6?
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Anyone knows the input lag spec of this 77-inch G6?


No one has tested it. Also the motion resolution better be improved compared the the Ef. As someone who wants it for 70% gaming motion is just as important - a $3700 vizio is 120hz and 1500 lines of motion vs 600 on the 65" OLED

Now I did find from the dx12 conference video they had the 77" OLED (was too big to be 65 G) and that was measuring and they were outpouring from HDMI under dx 12 Dolby vision at 1200nits

Be interesting if that was a development tv (was from March 2016) or this tv

If this supported hdmi2.1/HLG and had input lag at 35-40 I would be in

For now it seems to be their halo product at 4.2x more than the 65


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That was more or less the point of my sarcastic comment, thanks for spelling it out though.
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77G6P MSRP of $19,999 - shipping in Oct.

I was checking out the new 77" OLED at the magnolia in Chicago (Bucktown locatiin just got it). Btw they are prohibited by lg from showing the old hdr demos (I even had them On a USB drive. Lg told them they are too bright and could damage the 77" display running all.day. They are getting new less bright demos soon).

Currently they are only allowed to show SDr content. Seriously can this be true? Guy was new but quite knowledgeable I was shocked when he explained what emmisive meant correctly. I was in jeans and a t shirt so maybe thought I could not afford it but I had the damn thumb drive in my hand. It just makes me cringe and it's not fun to try and convince someone you have the cash. The very fact I knew about the display and was not in Walmart should be good enough.

Anyway they also have the 75" sony z behind it. Honestly in that dim lighting the Sonny looked as good or better in most shots running star wars FA BD

Star wars FA is a dark movie . First scenes with chewy and han are crushed with the lg black but looked killer on the sony. LG SET on movie or pro - same with sony. Yeah he made a comment that Vivid.mode is terrible on both! Wow!

Of course the sony looked like crap if you moved 20 degrees off center. I think my elite 70 is better. Was really shocked at the grey instead of black off center

Anyway it was the first time I have seen those 2 displays side by side. I am glad there is competition and hope the z can make future OLED better at least out of the box. I am sure a calibrated lg 77" would be way better but distressing that st 20k on movie mode it's not great.

The shots with the star fields are amazing ! Each star was so bright. In those scenes the LG shows why I want oled- but it's not 2.5x better in cost.

Lg needs that store to have oled demos and calibrated the display. It can't be that bad


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There is no reason whatsoever that the demos will damage the display because they're 'too bright'. They're in motion, they rotate the demos, they're not static in nature. I don't believe what he said or he simply misunderstood what LG said. No current 2016 OLED owner is complaining of burn-in and even IR is seldom reported. Even if one sees IR, it's wiped away after 4 hours during the automatic 'wiping' cycle.
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There is no reason whatsoever that the demos will damage the display because they're 'too bright'. They're in motion, they rotate the demos, they're not static in nature. I don't believe what he said or he simply misunderstood what LG said. No current 2016 OLED owner is complaining of burn-in and even IR is seldom reported. Even if one sees IR, it's wiped away after 4 hours during the automatic 'wiping' cycle.


I understand that. I simply found the story numerous and unsure where the lost in translation happened. Again, if you want a laugh call the store and ask "do.you have hdr demos for the 77"


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I finally got to see this in person tonight.

My 65" looks puny now.

What a beautiful set this is. I sure hope the price drops quickly, or at least gets to a number that I could live with.
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Finally got to see this set at the New York Audio Show. Robert at VE had it in one of his rooms with a Def Tech Atmos system and the Panny 4K BD player. Very impressed with the picture. Not a fan of The Revenant due to its violence but the 4K image with HDR was stunning. The price is still puts me off but the picture is fantastic.
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Finally got to see this set at the New York Audio Show. Robert at VE had it in one of his rooms with a Def Tech Atmos system and the Panny 4K BD player. Very impressed with the picture. Not a fan of The Revenant due to its violence but the 4K image with HDR was stunning. The price is still puts me off but the picture is fantastic.


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At 10k they would sell thousands
Do you think they have now manufacturing capabilities to make thousands?
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at 20k they just get laughed at
It is quite likely the market at this price is balanced: they sell what they can make and
there are no shortages and backorders.

I bet that at the CES LG will announce 88" and 99" models, the 77" price will be reduced.
And you won't give a damn about the 77", only complaining about the prices of the big ones .
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I think LG has mentioned they plan to make a 99" set.
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Do you think they have now manufacturing capabilities to make thousands?

It is quite likely the market at this price is balanced: they sell what they can make and
there are no shortages and backorders.

I bet that at the CES LG will announce 88" and 99" models, the 77" price will be reduced.
And you won't give a damn about the 77", only complaining about the prices of the big ones .
No, by then Ill have purchased the 75" Sony X940D. For around 4k.

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No, by then Ill have purchased the 75" Sony X940D. For around 4k.


It still won't have Dolby vision or real black


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No, by then Ill have purchased the 75" Sony X940D. For around 4k.
... which company is the one who's TV's haven't made a profit in 10 consecutive years? I'll give you a hint, it's not LG. Which one also has a 65 inch FALD for almost 6K?

LG's OLED's are outselling Sony's high end TV's. Are you here to troll or do you have a point? This is at least the second time you've criticized the high price of the 77 inch OLED and negatively compared it to Sony. LG will still be making TV's in 5 years, there's a high chance Sony wont be. And no, I wouldn't be happy about that. I really respect Sony for a lot of things, and Sony's made a solid attempt to improve their reputation and quality in the last few years from the low point they reached in the past decade, but they still have their heads half way up their a** and if they don't take it out completely they wont be around at all.

The 77 inch OLED is what it is because it has to be, it has nothing to do with greed. OLED is still a new technology. Do you have any idea what the first 70+ inch LCD's were? They weren't under 10K. It's only the third gen 77 and it's the first to have a wide release. Considering that it's already 5K less then the previous limited release 77's. Now that LG's finally got the 77's out to major retailers they can work on making the price lower and more competitive. That's how it works. The first OLED's were 1080p, 55 inch, and 15K. Now a 55 inch 4K OLED is 2K. The first 60 inch Plasma was 30K (not even adjusted for inflation) and it looked like crap. You can't just ignore this stuff.
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Why would they care given that's probably less than their manufacturing cost?
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If you can live with the halos on the 940D you're best off not shopping OLED anyway.
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If you can live with the halos on the 940D you're best off not shopping OLED anyway.
Hard to understand why somebody is coming to the OLED thread to announce he will not buy OLED but instead an LCD which is not even top-end. At this point the 77" OLED obviously can not be cheaper. If that would be possible LG definitely made it when one considers what is happening with the 65" prices. I guess it is not even yield on the 77" panels since the yield problem is generally solved but limited manufacturing capabilities.
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They need to produce, market, and sell in a full effort then the prices will drop. So many high priced sets come out and this does not happen. They come out and they sell a few TV's. The only one to date I have seen really follow this plan over a 2 year period is the Samsung 88" FALD, the UN88KS9800 and the model before UN88JS9500. Full runs, really put them out there, big price drops happened......
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... which company is the one who's TV's haven't made a profit in 10 consecutive years? I'll give you a hint, it's not LG. Which one also has a 65 inch FALD for almost 6K?

LG's OLED's are outselling Sony's high end TV's. Are you here to troll or do you have a point? This is at least the second time you've criticized the high price of the 77 inch OLED and negatively compared it to Sony. LG will still be making TV's in 5 years, there's a high chance Sony wont be. And no, I wouldn't be happy about that. I really respect Sony for a lot of things, and Sony's made a solid attempt to improve their reputation and quality in the last few years from the low point they reached in the past decade, but they still have their heads half way up their a** and if they don't take it out completely they wont be around at all.

The 77 inch OLED is what it is because it has to be, it has nothing to do with greed. OLED is still a new technology. Do you have any idea what the first 70+ inch LCD's were? They weren't under 10K. It's only the third gen 77 and it's the first to have a wide release. Considering that it's already 5K less then the previous limited release 77's. Now that LG's finally got the 77's out to major retailers they can work on making the price lower and more competitive. That's how it works. The first OLED's were 1080p, 55 inch, and 15K. Now a 55 inch 4K OLED is 2K. The first 60 inch Plasma was 30K (not even adjusted for inflation) and it looked like crap. You can't just ignore this stuff.
I have the lg 9100 55 inch so i think i have the right to come to the oled forum. Its not trolling if I have an issue with something. And I do. If Im in the market to purchase a large (75 inch or so) TV, there are limited options. And as far as I can tell - the Sony - even with its issues (blooming, bad 3d, etc ) - is my best option as the Oled is not available. Because of its insane price. And I talk about it here hoping tht perhaps, someday, LG might cut prices.
Your opinions about the financial state of Sony VS LG while interesting, are not applicable.

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I have the lg 9100 55 inch so i think i have the right to come to the oled forum. Its not trolling if I have an issue with something. And I do. If Im in the market to purchase a large (75 inch or so) TV, there are limited options. And as far as I can tell - the Sony - even with its issues (blooming, bad 3d, etc ) - is my best option as the Oled is not available. Because of its insane price. And I talk about it here hoping that perhaps, someday, LG might cut prices.
But it is available if you want to pay for one.

The price is high, yes, but not compared to a 4K projector and screen, the only alternative if you can't stand LCD's visual artifacts.

My comments were not made to be snarky, but rather if you can accept its shortcomings, every LCD except the Z9D Sony is less expensive than its OLED counterpart and therefore represents a better alternative.
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It should be 10k. Whatever happened to group buys?

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I have the lg 9100 55 inch so i think i have the right to come to the oled forum. Its not trolling if I have an issue with something. And I do. If Im in the market to purchase a large (75 inch or so) TV, there are limited options. And as far as I can tell - the Sony - even with its issues (blooming, bad 3d, etc ) - is my best option as the Oled is not available. Because of its insane price. And I talk about it here hoping tht perhaps, someday, LG might cut prices.
Your opinions about the financial state of Sony VS LG while interesting, are not applicable.
Okay... you're not trolling. My bad. Nonetheless you've criticized the price of the 77 inch OLED repeatedly when it's uncalled for, and seemingly don't understand why it's that high. And Sony's vs. LG's financial status is definitely important to keep in mind.

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It will be. They have to get it there. That's the way it works. Just like how 60 inch Plasma's went below 30K the 77 inch LG will go below 20K
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But it is available if you want to pay for one.

The price is high, yes, but not compared to a 4K projector and screen, the only alternative if you can't stand LCD's visual artifacts.

My comments were not made to be snarky, but rather if you can accept its shortcomings, every LCD except the Z9D Sony is less expensive than its OLED counterpart and therefore represents a better alternative.
As you implied, a 'better alternative' for those not overly concerned about PQ.
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You know it's honestly somewhat impressive that the first wide release 77 inch OLED is only 20K, and may have some sales around 17-18K. Looking back in display history that's pretty unprecedented for a new Flatpanel technology. It's also 4K resolution. The 30K, 60 inch Plasma was only 720p (lol) and that 30K price isn't adjusted for inflation. I think it took Plasma several years just to get a 42 below 10K. Things have definitely got cheaper.

I will say that if LG can't get the 2017 77 model to be 15K at some point then it will be more fair and legit to be critical and I'll probably join in myself. I don't expect that to happen but we'll see though.
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