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post #31 of 52 Old 12-28-2016, 02:35 PM
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OK, What are you watching this on? A TV app? It looks as though you're not watching this in full screen mode, hence the "Dimensional" dissimilarity to the actual resolution. If your watching this on a 4K TV then you should see Dimension: 1280 X 720 *3 for a 4K @ 3840 X 2160

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The value next to "connection speed" is just that - what YouTube detected your connection speed as.

It's actually the numerical value next to the "network activity" graph that shows the current download speed - in this case it's 695KB/s (5.56Mbps) and 0KB/s.

Now because your internet connection is so much quicker than what YouTube needs (~5x quicker), you can see on the "network activity" graph that it's merely downloading data in bursts rather than at a constant rate; this would explain why your photos only shows speeds of 5.56Mbps and 0Mbps when they really need closer to 20Mbps if it was downloading at a constant rate rather than in bursts - you simply took the photos when it was between each download "burst".





I use the browser extension Complete Youtube Saver which is available for Pale Moon and Firefox.
I get it now. The "connection speed" is just "your" connection to YouTube at the time you connect to the particular video. The network activity is the actual "pulsed" download speeds as it it downloading the file to your temp folder? BUT! Why then do I get huge drop frames from YouTube when I"m watching these same 4K vids through my PC web browser connected to my TV? (Same 4K TV). Still have this great connection speed of 80+Kbps and the PC is actually connected to my router via Ethernet as opposed to the TV (and app) connected to my network via WiFi.....Something is misleading here. Either the TV app is buffering way better or...I have no idea, actually!

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OK, What are you watching this on? A TV app? It looks as though you're not watching this in full screen mode, hence the "Dimensional" dissimilarity to the actual resolution. If your watching this on a 4K TV then you should see Dimension: 1280 X 720 *3 for a 4K @ 3840 X 2160
LOL, and I'm not even drinking.
Here I am just reading the forum on my HTPC and thought I'd check what the stats for nerds reported and took a screenshot, not realizing I'm not on the TV app...

Disregard previous post...oh man..lol

Back in the app, it's reading 1080p*2 @30, I'm on a LG 4k set, sorry about the confusion.

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That pic looks great! I guess I do not have enough bandwidth to view 4K HDR videos on the youtube app....but I have more than enough to view full movies and TV shows in 4K/HDR on the Amazon app, very strange.....I've been watching Mad Dogs on Amazon and love the picture, pretty stunning in 4K/HDR.
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Why then do I get huge drop frames from YouTube when I"m watching these same 4K vids through my PC web browser connected to my TV?
Could be performance related rather than bandwidth related. Even if the hardware is capable of it, there are cases where the software doesn't take good advantage of said hardware, so using a different program can give different results.

I personally would suggest trying in Chrome, Firefox, and Edge. If none of those work, then try playing it through MPC-HC or mpv.
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Could be performance related rather than bandwidth related. Even if the hardware is capable of it, there are cases where the software doesn't take good advantage of said hardware, so using a different program can give different results.

I personally would suggest trying in Chrome, Firefox, and Edge. If none of those work, then try playing it through MPC-HC or mpv.
Yeah I'm using it in Chrome. Yes my PC and Mobo (that I'm using it on) are old. I haven't switched over to my new PC yet. It's an old Asus P5Q Pro Turbo (Intel 775 CPU) with only 4GB of DDR2 RAM, but it has a SSD for the main OS and a NVIDIA 1060 GTX card. I wouldn't have thought there was a problem there. I wonder if it's a problem with the NVIDIA feeding the 4K TV @ 4:2:2 10bit color and @ 60fps.

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Well that's probably your issue - I'm not sure that stable versions of Chrome have VP9 hardware decoding yet, and you're going to have a bad time decoding 4k VP9 with that CPUs, especially 60fps (though if you have a Core 2 Quad, you might be able to pull it off in 64bit MPC-HC with "D3D Fullscreen" enabled or maybe even Firefox since they use the more efficient ffvp9 decoder).

For reference, 1080p 60fps VP9 gives me ~95% CPU utilization on a 2.4GHz Core 2 Duo in 64bit MPC-HC + D3D Fullscreen.
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Well that's probably your issue - I'm not sure that stable versions of Chrome have VP9 hardware decoding yet, and you're going to have a bad time decoding 4k VP9 with that CPUs, especially 60fps (though if you have a Core 2 Quad, you might be able to pull it off in 64bit MPC-HC with "D3D Fullscreen" enabled or maybe even Firefox since they use the more efficient ffvp9 decoder).

For reference, 1080p 60fps VP9 gives me ~95% CPU utilization on a 2.4GHz Core 2 Duo in 64bit MPC-HC + D3D Fullscreen.
Wow OK, you're right! maybe I'b better check my CPU loading. Yes it is a 64bit os and a Core 2 quad 9550 chip. I'll try those other browsers. My Windows 7 is getting long in the tooth also with stability problems. I always think the GPU is doing all the heavy lifting, but not so, I guess.

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LOL, and I'm not even drinking.
Here I am just reading the forum on my HTPC and thought I'd check what the stats for nerds reported and took a screenshot, not realizing I'm not on the TV app...

Disregard previous post...oh man..lol

Back in the app, it's reading 1080p*2 @30, I'm on a LG 4k set, sorry about the confusion.
What's the resolution in the app? Are you able to get 2160P?
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What's the resolution in the app? Are you able to get 2160P?
Just re-checked and it says 1920x1080*2
Resolution then went from 1920x1080 to 2***x1440
Dunno what that means but it's not showing 2140p

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I got my 65B6P last night and have been able to play @ 2160p in YouTube. I pulled up the following video and got "Resolution: 3840 x [email protected]".

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I got my 65B6P last night and have been able to play @ 2160p in YouTube. I pulled up the following video and got "Resolution: 3840 x [email protected]".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kq3PIoNPow
Thanks. I guess I need more speed.
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4K youtube videos are working for me on my b6, but not every time I choose one. It seems for me that I need a constant 30,000 Kbps or higher to sustain a 4K feed, anything lower and it defaults to HD. Sometimes when it defaults to HD, I'll exit the video and play again and it will play in 4K when my internet can give it what it wants.
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Everyone is over thinking this topic. I have an LG E6 (same as B6 except E6 also has 3D).

I have a Chromecast Ultra, with Ethernet connections to that and the LG E6. Chromecast Ultra plays YouTube HDR fine on the E6, while the E6's Yahoo app never kicks into HDR.

Steady 30MB connection after VPN to both inputs, so the issue lies with the LG YouTube app.
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I think everyone is using the TV app. That's where the issue is.
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Yep. I notice if I use youtube-dl to download a 4K video, it shows up as a webm file. If I try to play the webm file via USB stick on the LG, it won't play either. If I use ffmpeg to repackage (not transcode) the same exact vp9 video from webm to mkv, the the LG plays it fine in 4K. So webos has support for the open source VP9 codec, but it doesn't have support for the equally open source webm container. Go figure.
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Please note that IPS' (Internet Service Providers) can and will play games with bandwidth. Several years ago when Netflix and Verizon FIOS were in a tift, I could run a connection speed check and it showed that I was getting the paid for bandwidth. However I further tested my connection with downloading a large file from an lightly loaded server. The bandwidth stayed at max for about 45 seconds and then fell to less than a quarter. Verizon had set their equipment to remain at the high bandwidth just long enough to pass any given speed test.

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I can't get that video to play in 4K. When I pause, there is a "More Options" menu that then has a "Stats for nerds" option. It shows:

Dimensions: 1920 x 180 * 2
Resolution: 2560 x [email protected]

Buffer health rapidly climbs to 30s so I know my internet is plenty fast.

I've tried a bunch of videos that should be 4K, but none of them work.

Can some of you please try 4K videos in the YouTube app, go to the "Stats for nerds" and see if you get full 3840 x 2160.

Thanks.
I can't get it to play 4K either on my B6. 26 Mbps download, wireless connection. Amazon UHD HDR streams fine but no 4k YouTube. What is the deal?
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I can't get it to play 4K either on my B6. 26 Mbps download, wireless connection. Amazon UHD HDR streams fine but no 4k YouTube. What is the deal?
Agree with the "what's the deal?"

I have a 80/80 fios connection. My LGb65p is on a wireless AC connection.

I can stream Netflix at 4K and HDR. But Vudu refuses to stream my UHD at anything above HDX.

I thought Vudu supported HDX on LG. I tried reinstalling the Vudu app to no effect.

Thoughts? Thanks.
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Does the C6 have such comparable problems or is it just the B6 ?
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So I was having a very similar issue and ran across this thread. I think there is one piece of the puzzle that has not been clear, or at least something else I noticed.

I got the LG B7A last week and I started having the same issue.

First with VUDU, but that was because the TV app marked that I had the UHD version when I didn't. Bought GotG2 and it played in UHD.

Amazon and Hulu originals play in 4k, UHD when it has it.

In Youtube and Google Play Movies is were I see the issues as some of you but the curious thing is that I think Google is doing this on purpose.

When I go to the Youtube 4k HDR channel I can play the videos and I get the HDR prompt at the top when I do it. Videos like the NASA and nature stuff play perfectly in 4k. When I go to see the "nerd stuff" I see the resolution being 4k.

The issues start when I try to say paid for content meaning movies I bought and paid for on Google Movies. I go to nerd stuff and the resolution gets stuck/throttled to 854x something. IT is only with paid content I think because Google requires you to buy the Chromecast Ultra even though Youtube can easily play 4K HDR content without it. They are locking content behind the hardware.
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