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This seems to be the only thread I could find on this monitor. So is anyone going to splurge on it despite the $20K+ price tag?

It seems like the Holy Grail for pc games as far as IQ considering it combines OLED with all the fancy video options of a monitor. Unless even this one has an issue with black colors but I haven't seen anything about that yet for this.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...master_el.html
This is not the new model that is coming out. There are 2 different threads about the new Sony A1E OLED
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That stuff is probably only in the ultra expensive Sony OLED monitor stuff. Just like their best motion interpolation is done by their ultra expensive projectors...Shurely one hopes that we will see stuff like the ''rolling scan'' in consumers TVs in years to come.
Not certain about the "rolling scan" and don't call me 'Shurely.'
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LG has no trouble supplying to customers who are willing to pay their price under their commercial terms.
Sony is going to get their 100,000 panels, no problem. (As are Panasonic and Philips, for whatever supply commitment they negotiated ).
If there was ever supply issues I bet LG is going to supply themselves before competitors.
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If there was ever supply issues I bet LG is going to supply themselves before competitors.
Actually, I suspect that's incorrect.

LGE is likely to be a far more 'forgiving' customer of LGD than a Sony or a Philips.

So with 'true' customers like Sony and Philips, I would not be the least bit surprised to see LGD take an approach of 'undercommit and overdeliver' to assure those customers have a successful first year with OLED and return in 2018 wanting more. This is likely the reason for the modest commitment of only 100,000 OLED panels to Sony.

LGE is getting allocated the lion's-share of this year's 1.5-1.8M OLED panels and if the number comes out short for whatever reason, they will deal with it (and slow down the level of price discounting ).
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This seems to be the only thread I could find on this monitor. So is anyone going to splurge on it despite the $20K+ price tag?

It seems like the Holy Grail for pc games as far as IQ considering it combines OLED with all the fancy video options of a monitor. Unless even this one has an issue with black colors but I haven't seen anything about that yet for this.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...master_el.html
$23,000+ and it can't do 120Hz? Sad!
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Actually, I suspect that's incorrect.

LGE is likely to be a far more 'forgiving' customer of LGD than a Sony or a Philips.

So with 'true' customers like Sony and Philips, I would not be the least bit surprised to see LGD take an approach of 'undercommit and overdeliver' to assure those customers have a successful first year with OLED and return in 2018 wanting more. This is likely the reason for the modest commitment of only 100,000 OLED panels to Sony.

LGE is getting allocated the lion's-share of this year's 1.5-1.8M OLED panels and if the number comes out short for whatever reason, they will deal with it (and slow down the level of price discounting ).
I agree. LGE isn't a truly arms length customer at the end of the day, so I would expect LGD to bend over backwards for true 3rd party customers like Sony, especially in Year 1 of this.
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I was at Fry's earlier and saw a couple of guys pull this out to the floor. Looks like they're getting ready to set it up.

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In short, it's absolutely beautiful. But...there's no way I would buy this when the screen touches the ground of the stand. And I just can't get past the easel setup.












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Yikes! Those pics looked great until we got to more of those blue tinted whites. Hopefully they can change the color setting or calibrated it out.

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Yikes! Those pics looked great until we got to more of those blue tinted whites. Hopefully they can change the color setting or calibrated it out.



Do you understand calibration at all ? by the posts you make I am guessing you do not .


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Do you understand calibration at all ? by the posts you make I am guessing you do not .


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You would think they would at least take it out of cool, but even changing it to warm might not help without adjustment. Here are the calibrated pics from last year. I was hoping the new OLEDs would have fixed this problem, but it still looks like others are finding similar results even after calibration.


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Yikes! Those pics looked great until we got to more of those blue tinted whites. Hopefully they can change the color setting or calibrated it out.

Instead of complaining about pointless uncalibrated TVs in stores with unknown settings, why don't you check out the calibration thread for this TV?

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-ole...on-thread.html
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You can't tell from these pictures as the camera may have been compensating for the tungsten light by adding blue.
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Why Is The Snow In My Pictures So Blue?

https://digital-photography-school.c...tures-so-blue/



https://fstoppers.com/education/bett...hotoshop-52121


There is plenty of info on the web about this.




I had my Oled side by side with a Sony LCD ,I didn't notice any blue on the Oled.

We shouldn't rely on pictures to make a purchase.
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You would think they would at least take it out of cool, but even changing it to warm might not help without adjustment. Here are the calibrated pics from last year. I was hoping the new OLEDs would have fixed this problem, but it still looks like others are finding similar results even after calibration.



where in the ratings review does it say that is after calibration ? You but are really ridiculous if you think my C6 looks like that guess again. Smh

those are the pictures they use for upscaling comparisons nowhere in the review does it say that is a calibrated image . please produce proof or go away.


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Don't know how much more proof you need. Jeffr in the calibration thread even said his display had a blue push. Can you calibrate most of it out? Maybe, but if you take out to much blue how will effect the rest of the color and saturation in scenes with no white. Here is a screen capture of a video from the respected German site of a calibrated A1E. Again, viewing by itself you would probably not even see the blue tint of the snow, but compared to the better whites of display next to it, you can clearly see it.



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Instead of complaining about pointless uncalibrated TVs in stores with unknown settings, why don't you check out the calibration thread for this TV?

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-ole...on-thread.html
You mean the calibration thread where calibrator Jrref confirms his A1E display has a blue push?
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Don't know how much more proof you need. Jeffr in the calibration thread even said his display had a blue push. Can you calibrate most of it out? Maybe, but if you take out to much blue how will effect the rest of the color and saturation in scenes with no white. Here is a screen capture of a video from the respected German site of a calibrated A1E. Again, viewing by itself you would probably not even see the blue tint of the snow, but compared to the better whites of display next to it, you can clearly see it.





you don't understand calibration done discussing this with you . this is one area where your lack of knowledge hurts your perceptions . calibration is done at all ires not just pure white again you don't understand calibration at all smh


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Even if the blue cast is true, do you really think that I see it ? Something that the camera is capturing doesn't mean that is there to the same degree or that we see it.

Sony TVs have a red cast on whites ,Samsung have a yellow cast do to the QD layer. Backlight can also create bluish blacks.
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Backlight can also create bluish blacks.
and this is generally impossible to calibrate away.
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Just watch last your shootout ,is on video and you will see a color cast on whites on each of them. Do that mean that they saw that in person? I don't think so.

The Oled won the shootout and nobody mentioned any of what I saw through the camera lens.

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We shouldn't rely on pictures to make a purchase.
No question on that, not to mention we have no idea where the TV's are set and how close they are to being the best they can be.
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Yikes! Those pics looked great until we got to more of those blue tinted whites. Hopefully they can change the color setting or calibrated it out.
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Don't know how much more proof you need. Jeffr in the calibration thread even said his display had a blue push. Can you calibrate most of it out? Maybe, but if you take out to much blue how will effect the rest of the color and saturation in scenes with no white. Here is a screen capture of a video from the respected German site of a calibrated A1E. Again, viewing by itself you would probably not even see the blue tint of the snow, but compared to the better whites of display next to it, you can clearly see it.
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You mean the calibration thread where calibrator Jrref confirms his A1E display has a blue push?
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Even if the blue cast is true, do you really think that I see it ? Something that the camera is capturing doesn't mean that is there to the same degree or that we see it.

Sony TVs have a red cast on whites ,Samsung have a yellow cast do to the QD layer. Backlight can also create bluish blacks.

According to the AVForums review - out of the box the A1E has a slight blue push - however after calibration the A1E has very good color accuracy, etc.

Starting at 3:55 -


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According to the AVForums review - out of the box the A1E has a slight blue push - however after calibration the A1E has very good color accuracy, etc.

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A1 can absolutely be calibrated to d65 whitepoint.

Just go read the A1E calibration thread. Jrref has gotten very nice results out of his a1e
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A1 can absolutely be calibrated to d65 whitepoint.



Just go read the A1E calibration thread. Jrref has gotten very nice results out of his a1e



I want Systech to show me the blue bias in that report it doesn't exist.


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