Originally Posted by EF9500
Idk, I don't see it either. I did on the original fw's, but its gone, as far as I'm concerned.
Here's the thing, the set looks great as long as the frame rate is high enough. Gaming is stupidly good at 60fps with Trumotion turned off. 30fps even looks good enough. The processing around 24fps content leaves something to be desired. Especially as more people are getting it from streaming boxes that output 60fps. So you are getting less blur from the panel itself, but it has two side effects:
1) Judder from 24p sources played back at 60fps is more visible/objectionable.
2) More perceived blur or "persistence of vision" effects from sample and hold when compared to BFI or backlight strobing techniques LCD uses.
Yes, there's TruMotion, but it tends to artifact certain content really easy, where Sony's version on my HX929 can be left on for all content and it helps across the board. After living with the HX929 for 5 years, it's the one thing I'm still trying to get used to with the LG set is just how meh the motion processing really is.
It is better than LCD with everything turned off, but I'm also used to 1080 lines of motion resolution with it turned on and no SOE. Not ~300, because I want to avoid SOE. It spoils you when you have it.
Originally Posted by Mixdoctor
This ^!!! I think so too. Let me find out the Sony OLED's will be last years B6 with their name on it? Something smells funny about this. They are not stupid. If these OLED sets are up to their usual high standards with processing, then there is no way they would undercut their flagship display. Who would buy the Z at that point? If those prices really are true I am thinking they are just selling a basic model with their either their most basic of processing or LG's processing with their (Sony's) menu system and Android added in. Something has to give here.
Their "good" processing exists on their X930D which lists for 1500$ for a 55". I suspect this is really aimed at replacing that for a bit of a premium for the panel. If the processing is based on the chips used in that set, I'm happy. And I suspect that this set would be aimed at replacing the X930D, with the sizes being discussed, not the Z9 (yet).
The Z9's price reflects the complexity of building out a good FALD set, not their motion processing.
Seriously, if they can price a 55" OLED w/MotionFlow and decent input lag (30ms) at 2k, it will be the first TV I ever pre-order.