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Question B6 and Motion Blur in PS4 Pro

Hello,

I've been reading a lot of topics related with the B6 and PS4 Pro but at the moment I didn't find any specific to my problem.

I have a LG B6 2016 model as well as a PS4 Pro and I'm experiencing a lot of motion blur when a play games like Pro Evolution Soccer or FIFA.

The motion blur appears using the "Gaming Mode" but also in other picture modes. I've been able to "fix" this problem using other modes than Gaming Mode activating TruMotion to "Clear" or selecting "User" but after some minutes playing, some lagging and stuttering appears during the game which are really annoying.

So I would like to know if there is a way to reduce this motion blur, specially for sports games, using the Gaming Mode? If not, how can I reduce this motion blur?

Thanks in advance for your answers 😊 !
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Have you updated to firmware update (04.30.77)?
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Have you updated to firmware update (04.30.77)?
Yes but I still have the problem ...
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What TV have you used in the past for gaming?

I actually think the motion blur in game mode is one of the better ones I've seen (at 60fps), with the motion processing turned off. Better than any LCD I've used. I've never really gamed long enough on Plasma to know for sure, so it's possible those will still get better motion resolution for games, due to sample and hold.

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What TV have you used in the past for gaming?

I actually think the motion blur in game mode is one of the better ones I've seen (at 60fps), with the motion processing turned off. Better than any LCD I've used. I've never really gamed long enough on Plasma to know for sure, so it's possible those will still get better motion resolution for games, due to sample and hold.
I had a plasma TV before, that why maybe I'm a bit too sensitive to it ☹️...
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try tru motion off and super res to med or even high
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Do you have the PS4 Pro connected directly to the tv or are you going through a receiver?
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try tru motion off and super res to med or even high

I think those options are greyed out in game-mode?
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super res is not greyed out on mine. I did a reset and it defaults to medium. It makes a huge difference for gaming. Its awesome
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super res is not greyed out on mine. I did a reset and it defaults to medium. It makes a huge difference for gaming. Its awesome
Its better indeed but there is still a lot of motion blur IMO...

I'm still sticking with the tru motion "clear" meanwhile there is a solution...

Thanks for your suggestion Sledhead
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Do you have the PS4 Pro connected directly to the tv or are you going through a receiver?
Yes, directly to the TV
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I had a plasma TV before, that why maybe I'm a bit too sensitive to it ☹️...
You just can't get detailed scrolling on everything non CRT or Plasma.

Next best thing would be a sample & hold display with BFI. But the LG OLEDs don't have any kind of BFI, so they suck for 60fps video games - simple as that.

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You just can't get detailed scrolling on everything non CRT or Plasma.

Next best thing would be a sample & hold display with BFI. But the LG OLEDs don't have any kind of BFI, so they suck for 60fps video games - simple as that.

Yup, 300 lines of motion resolution out of 1080 lines.

The motion options in the menu can change the lines of resolution to a max of 600 lines. Every modern LCD can do the full 1080 out of 1080 lines of motion resolution with their motion enhancement options turned on.

Has anyone heard from CES how the 2017 models handle motion? Still the same across the board?
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Thanks for your answers
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I had a plasma TV before, that why maybe I'm a bit too sensitive to it ☹️...
There's your problem. Plasma had perfect blur free motion but OLED does not.

OLED has less blur than LCD but not that much less in my experience. It's still quite noticeable. It's because they use the sample and hold method to show moving pictures so there never is black "frames" between content frames like CRT and plasma had I think because of the phosphor layer that became bright then loss the image for a split second and then next frame is blasted on the phosphor and then it starts loosing the image again etc.

The less long you display each frame the less blur there is. LCD and OLED just put each frame 1/60th of a second or 1/30th of a second at 30 frames probably so it create eye tracking motion blur.

Never had a plasma in my life but I'm going from what I read on this subject and I still have my old CRT TV and I see no motion blur.

Some LCD PC monitors actually have modes where they insert black frames between content frames and supposedly it pretty much eliminates motion blur on a standard LCD monitor but you need to run your games at a high refresh rates so the black frames can be inserted I think. Nvidia has it's version of this on GSYNC monitors and BenQ has it's own proprietary thing for that too. The drawback is that the entire picture becomes less bright in general because of the black frames.
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