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Sign here if you'd like to see an OLED with 3D in the future

OK let's see how many 3D fans are really out there - as you've seen 3D has gone from the OLEDs in 2017 because it has been dropped at the panel level.

Please just sign this if you'd like to see 3D pop up in the future on an OLED even if it is a lower end model with lower nits than the panels without 3D.

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Why not buy a 2016 OLED with 3D? It's available now and it's getting cheaper everyday.

3D was removed as there is no support for it at 4K resolution.
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Why not buy a 2016 OLED with 3D? It's available now and it's getting cheaper everyday.

3D was removed as there is no support for it at 4K resolution.
I already have a 2016 65E6 but there are lots of people who were waiting for the 2017 models who are now buying a 2016 model because they wanted 3D. Likewise I'm concerned that if this E6 breaks before the warranty period is up and they can't fix it then I'm stuck as they'll either refund or replace with a newer model.

I started the petition because it's mad that we're still paying a premium for 3D Blu-rays that the TV manufacturers are dropping support for and just wanted an idea of how many potential customers we're talking about.

LG had 3D perfected on the OLEDs with no ghosting and pretty much the same brightness as a calibrated SDR TV.

I understand they needed extra brightness to keep up in the HDR world but it's a shame that to gain extra brightness for specular highlights they've entirely dropped 1080p 3D support.

They wouldn't be able to do full resolution passive UHD 3D until 8k hits - true there is no support for 3D in the UHD Blu-ray specs but it was still there for 1080p which is what was so enjoyable on the 2016 OLEDs.

At least with the 2016 range it was an easy choice - you didn't want 3D buy the B6. You wanted 3D and weren't offended by the curve get the C6. If you wanted a flat 3D screen you got the E6 or G6.

Now they've dropped 3D and they're all flat there seem to be too many models in the 2017 range.
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Sign for support ! I love 3D !
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I already have a 2016 65E6 but there are lots of people who were waiting for the 2017 models who are now buying a 2016 model because they wanted 3D. Likewise I'm concerned that if this E6 breaks before the warranty period is up and they can't fix it then I'm stuck as they'll either refund or replace with a newer model.

I started the petition because it's mad that we're still paying a premium for 3D Blu-rays that the TV manufacturers are dropping support for and just wanted an idea of how many potential customers we're talking about.

LG had 3D perfected on the OLEDs with no ghosting and pretty much the same brightness as a calibrated SDR TV.

I understand they needed extra brightness to keep up in the HDR world but it's a shame that to gain extra brightness for specular highlights they've entirely dropped 1080p 3D support.

They wouldn't be able to do full resolution passive UHD 3D until 8k hits - true there is no support for 3D in the UHD Blu-ray specs but it was still there for 1080p which is what was so enjoyable on the 2016 OLEDs.

At least with the 2016 range it was an easy choice - you didn't want 3D buy the B6. You wanted 3D and weren't offended by the curve get the C6. If you wanted a flat 3D screen you got the E6 or G6.

Now they've dropped 3D and they're all flat there seem to be too many models in the 2017 range.
It isn't just LG who is dropping it. Even Samsung, Sony, Panasonic and other players are ether dropping 3D too or have less TV models that can have this feature.

The industry wouldnt drop it if it was that popular.

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None of them were doing it as well as LG were with the passive 3D system on the 2016 OLEDs though - it's the best it had ever been.

Samsung dropped it the year before but at least there were still other options.

And as LG Display are dropping it that is meaning that Sony and Panasonic have their hands tied on their OLEDs as they use the LGD panels. If they'd really wanted to they could have maybe done an active system but there wasn't much point as it would have been half as bright as the system on the 2016 OLEDs.

It is a big shame though - I did wonder whether the petition wording should be more generic but Panasonic's 3D implementation on their 2016 DX902 was shambolic and it was due to that and a CEO escalation I managed to get a full refund months after purchasing that TV. As LG did it so right and make the panels I figured it best targeted at that audience.

Luckily people can still buy the 2016 sets while they're around but it does feel like it's dropped off the radar while HDR is flavour of the month. Hopefully they won't drop that like 3D.
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Signed. Won't buy OLED without 3D.
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Without 3D OLED is not worth buying
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I had thought about keeping my LED edge-lit 3D TV for one more year when I found out the news that 3D would no longer be supported in 2017. Although I very much wanted an OLED set, at least I would have 3D for a little while longer before I had to give it up in favor of stepping up to the latest OLED TV. But in thinking about it, I've pretty much decided to buy the 65" LG c6 instead, keeping it for three years, and then upgrading to a 2020 OLED. I have 107 3D titles in my library, (with more to come) and I just can't bear to part with them after only one more year.

The c6 is not a perfect TV; no TV is. I'm aware that it's not as refined as the 2017 models, and as the years pass its technology will be left farther behind. But on its own merits I think I can accept its drawbacks in exchange for that great OLED picture, and especially for what I'm told is the best 3D picture in the world. But I have to act fast in making the firm decision to buy it. Right now it's nicely priced, and even if I sell my LED TV for no more than peanuts, my total investment in the c6 will only be $2,000. As a retiree working part-time I can have that paid off in less than three months.

I will ask some questions on the c6 in another room, but I think I would agree that if a person is tempted to buy an OLED 3D set they had better make that decision soon. Yes, apparently LG has hinted that they *might* re-install 3D in one of their 2017 models later in the year, but waiting on that could be a big mistake, not to mention that it could cost a lot more money than a close-out model for a gain of just 20% in nit brightness.
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My only gripe with the petition is there's no mention of LCD, and honestly, 3D should be available on both LCD and OLED sets. OLED isn't suitable for everyone. I currently own an LG LCD UHD set (UH8500) but this decision affects all 3D fans, LCD and OLED, and my next set might have either been been an OLED or another LED, depending on various factors.
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Signed.i was waiting 5 years to pounce on this set. Happy to wait another 5 for the next when hopefully they'll have 4k 3d on a 70" 8k TV.
With quality films being made shame to kill it just when it was getting good at home and dare I say it better than the cinema with only imax3d in the same league.
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Why not buy a 2016 OLED with 3D? It's available now and it's getting cheaper everyday.

3D was removed as there is no support for it at 4K resolution.
I'm considering doing that, but this news has really come at the wrong time in the upgrade cycle for me. 2016 TVs have a lot of deficiencies when it comes to HDR. By 2018 I'm guessing the technology will have matured and HDR standards will have settled down - that feels like a good sort of time to upgrade, other things being equal. I'm not sure if an E6 would be enough of an upgrade over my VT65 plasma to justify that kind of money.

Plus, I'm not sure I want to rush out and give LG several thousand pounds of my money as a reward for scrapping 3D.
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If you watch in the dark, an OLED will absolutely be an astonishing upgrade over your VT60(5). I guess you could get a Z9 with an arguably inferior 3D presentation, but once Sony brings down the anvil for its successor (high probability), you'll have buyer's remorse.
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None of them were doing it as well as LG were with the passive 3D system on the 2016 OLEDs though - it's the best it had ever been.

Samsung dropped it the year before but at least there were still other options.

And as LG Display are dropping it that is meaning that Sony and Panasonic have their hands tied on their OLEDs as they use the LGD panels. If they'd really wanted to they could have maybe done an active system but there wasn't much point as it would have been half as bright as the system on the 2016 OLEDs.

It is a big shame though - I did wonder whether the petition wording should be more generic but Panasonic's 3D implementation on their 2016 DX902 was shambolic and it was due to that and a CEO escalation I managed to get a full refund months after purchasing that TV. As LG did it so right and make the panels I figured it best targeted at that audience.

Luckily people can still buy the 2016 sets while they're around but it does feel like it's dropped off the radar while HDR is flavour of the month. Hopefully they won't drop that like 3D.
Yeah, HDR, HDR, HDR.... Im not personally not that blown away by HDR. Its an improvement with some material but thus far isnt life changing by any means . Whatever.....
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Signed the petition yesterday --- I doubt it'll change anything but it's an opportunity to have a say.

No one says anything about LG's implementation of its 2D to 3D conversion -- it's quite good and a nice bonus for 3D fans. The 3D OLEDs are a best buy right now, IMO.
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Signed here too.
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I have the feeling either next year or the year after will be a real game changer. Probably 3D 4K HDR HFR on the way (probably in increments though). With Avatar 2 pushing the envelope.
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Signed as well. I was thinking 2017 purchase, but my plasma should last a lot longer, so no go for OLED.
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Signed, because I love OLED and I love 3D. Together, they are a match made in heaven.
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If you haven't seen LG's implementation of 3D on their 4k OLEDs you haven't seen 3D. Shame the industry pushed the technology so hard before it was ready.
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Wow, almost 4k signatures. Last I looked it was a several hundred. Interesting.

At least this thread is free of those several posters that can't stop posting, "3d is dead and I'm glad, get over it!"

It's like 3D insulted their mother, lol.
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Thanks all - we have had some big jumps in signatures as articles were run in France, Germany, the UK and the USA. If you look through the comments I'd say a large chunk of them are from people in Germany and France.

We had another jump when What HiFi magazine ran an article on Friday.

I've been using Twitter a bit and that has got some good reactions - I ran a paid tweet at the weekend and had just the one person whinging (same guy who moans on one of the UK forums about it too so no surprises there).

The current angle has been to tweet to some of the directors and film companies who are making the most money from 3D - no retweets yet though but always worth a go

I had planned on emailing the LG guys (and Ryan over at the Blu ray forums has sent me some more contacts over) when we hit 3000 but as things look I think it may just roll over to 4000 in the next few days. Just needs a new article or retweet hitting the right people and it should get there
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Signed. Major backward step by Lg . Improved sound in 2017 Oleds 1 less format supported and particularly when they hedged their bets between HDR10 and Dolby Vision . It can't be very expensive to implement and they have already done excellent work prepping it for the 2016 models .

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