Originally Posted by Scott Wilkinson
Thanks for the kind words! To answer your question, I'd buy the OLED. As others have said in these comments, all LCDs require Band-Aids to overcome inherent shortcomings that OLEDs simply don't have in the first place.
Scott, you say you would rather take the OLED (I presume LG's, since that is all that's currently available in USA), even if the Z9D was the same price. Have you actually had experience viewing a Sony Z9D in a controlled environment, (i.e. not on the showroom floor of Best Buy, but with the lights off), displaying both SDR and HDR? If so, in what way was the Z9D lacking, in your opinion?
Have you viewed the LG OLEDs side by side with the flagship FALD's from Sony and Samsung?
Another thing that was neglected was asking the person what type of content they watch primarily?
The LG OLEDs are indeed one-trick ponys. Indeed they have the deepest blacks, but they also exhibit significantly more noise above black than the Sonys and Samsungs which clearly have superior processing.
The LG OLEDs also exhibit much greater false-contouring (color banding) than do my Sony flagships. (I have not had a Samsung flagship in a while, because of their stupidity in only offering flagship TV's with an aggressive curve).
If the person watches a lot of overly-compressed cable/sat which is far from clean, and streams a lot of their content, which is not always pristine, the LG OLED's (at least for 2016) do not handle these signals nearly as well as the Sonys and Samsungs.
I have a 2016 LG OLED C6, but I will be ditching it eventually, because it has such poor processing. Even with some BD content the noise can look far worse than my Sonys side by side. Not on all BD content, or every single film, mind you, but more frequently than it should for its premium price and supposedly being "the best display ever." I keep the 2016 LG OLED around mainly to have as a reference black to compare to other displays. I likely will not be keeping it for several years.
Planet Earth is a disaster on my OLED. Horrible false contouring (for example Planet Earth Ep. 1 at 31 minutes, underwater scene), horribly noisy (see Planet Earth Ep. 4: Caves from around 3 minutes in for the next several minutes), etc.
Noise, noise, noise, on the LG OLEDs.
When a source is very clean, and there is no low-level noise in a source or a BD transfer, the LG can look better than anything else, reference quality in the dark, although it struggles in the shadow detail department as well. You can coax more shadow detail out of it by adjusting the gamma/brightness settings, but then you just exacerbate the noise that crops up on occasion. You can cut down on the noise (somewhat, but not fully) by crushing the blacks.
LG processing has always been second-rate, and not top-tier. They are no match for Sony/Samsung in this area, and that includes their TruMotion, which is not nearly as effective as Sony's Motionflow.
Z9D if you can afford it, and make the viewing angles work, all day long. The OLED has slightly superior black level performance, but above black, which is no less important, all the way up the grayscale to peak white, the Z9D is overall better.
The Z9D is clearly better at HDR than the 2016 LG OLEDs as well, although occasional halos/blooming light seepage into black bars can crop up in HDR, since the brightness is cranked to the max, although this is not an issue with SDR content. We'll have to wait and see what the 2017's bring for OLEDs and flagship LCDs. The Sony Z9D is not perfect by any means with its presentation with HDR, but simply the best we have for now, and better than the OLED.
I am a fan of OLED tech, but at present, not LG's version. It's ok on pristine sources, but I want a display that thrives in every environment, not just dark room viewing with clean, noise-free transfers.
The Z9D thrives in every environment, except more than 20-30 degrees off-axis. It looks superb in the pitch dark, it looks good with some light in the room, and as the brightest consumer display ever released, it is great even in a sun-drenched room.
The Z9D (currently) is hands down the best (widely available consumer) experience for HDR on the market. It also does 3D well, although I must give credit and the nod to the passive implementation on the LG OLED.
I hope (and expect) Sony's clearly superior processing will address a number of the issues with the 2016 LG OLEDs, and Sony's Motionflow is much better and more refined than LG's TruMotion as well.
If you go OLED, save up for the Sony version, or at least wait and see if LG has upped their processing game for 2017.