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The PQ is better on the 2017 sets for sure. There is no doubt about that but is it enough to by a new OLED if you already have a 2016? Everyone will have an opinion on that question.
I would like to know if they fixed the pinko commie white. I watch a lot of Ice Hockey and after trying a thousand adjustments, I can't get the Ice too show white ice, it has a pinko commie tint. So my 65C6 with pinko commie white will go back if the 2017 models are non-pink-o commie white. Any fix on the 2017 models?
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I'm on Amazon looking for a disk like Spears and Munsil HD Benchmark. Is there a better disk? I really need a full white background to adjust out, if I can, the pink-o commie white.
My 65C6 has great blacks but on the other hand, it should have great whites and should not be prejudice.

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Nice review! They need to offer an in wall rated cable and small box instead of the sound bar before I'd consider one. I have a feeling the B7 is going to be the best bang for the buck since the picture quality is supposed to be the same across the board.
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Regardless of looks of performance the cable hanging down is Ugly as hell! Just my 2 cents
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Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Where's the pictures? Was this a panel picked from retail stock or an LG provided demo unit?
You can't take pictures that are of any value when the panel is displaying the really low ire's, sorry. You will just have to trust my observations because i'm just telling you what I saw with this particular panel based on my experience seeing many 2016 panels.

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I would like to know if they fixed the pinko commie white. I watch a lot of Ice Hockey and after trying a thousand adjustments, I can't get the Ice too show white ice, it has a pinko commie tint. So my 65C6 with pinko commie white will go back if the 2017 models are non-pink-o commie white. Any fix on the 2017 models?
On the panel I saw, there was no tinting with a full white screen.
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Regardless of looks of performance the cable hanging down is Ugly as hell! Just my 2 cents
There is a short cable that comes "stock" with the panel and there is also a 6 foot extension cable that is also supplied. In looking at the whole setup you would think that the cable should be routed through the wall so you don't see it but from what I understand, the cable is not in wall rated. I guess it will depend on where you live if there are regulations requiring an in wall rating for such a cable run.

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Great info here, thanks so much. As for me and I'm sure many others, if we can't use our current AVR'S and surround systems its not an option. Bad decision on LG'S part.

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Glad to hear the picture is smoother, cleaner and less noisy. When Chad B. reported last year that the 2016 models had a slight amount of non-defeatable added EE, that was a deal breaker for me.
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Glad to hear the picture is smoother, cleaner and less noisy. When Chad B. reported last year that the 2016 models had a slight amount of non-defeatable added EE, that was a deal breaker for me.
I just want to make sure everyone understands at least my comments: The PQ is definitely better but it's a "modest" improvement from what I could see over the 2016 models from a user viewing perspective. Some of the more experienced folks are going to need to run through a couple of calibrations and do a more detailed analysis of the CMS, etc.. to see if some of the "shortcomings" of the 2016's are corrected or any better.
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Great work Scott. Good to know the near black is better. I'm certainly interested to know if LG have improved their motion to the point where I don't have to buy the Sony A1 if I'm allergic to judder.
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Enjoyed the hands on. W7 is a intresting tv and its my fave this year.
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I know I'm in the minority, but I feel it's a big disappointment to see 3D features absent from top-end displays. 3d films are still being released at a steady rate, and I truly enjoy watching them on my 2011 plasma, (just watched Doctor Strange the other night and I really enjoyed the 3D). When the day comes I need to replace my TV, I'll be looking for 3d features. Emissive technology with low persistence like OLED are well suited for low cross talk with active shutter glasses.
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The W series are the coolest TVs by far. It's on the top of my list for my next TV. I just with they would offer something 70"+ for under 10 grand.
That would be nice
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Well ok, I won't derail the thread anymore with my fantasies, since I would need to see the TV in person to see what exactly could be done, but I had assumed that the wires/cables/rod(s) would not be mounted directly to the back of the TV itself, but securely attached to the TV mount, and the TV to the mount by the magnet/clips. Seems as if the mount itself is very thin and not sturdy enough to be hanging freestanding, and needs to be mounted against something firm like a wall. I don't know that one would need an entire wall; rather some sturdy but thin mounting plate hanging down from the ceiling to mount the TV mount to. The point is, the weight is so light that everything does not need to be so big, thick, heavy and bulky as a typical ceiling mount that drops down with a big fat pipe attaching it to the ceiling.
I would think that a cut-to-size piece of 1/4" thick plywood would do it. Paint it black, insert a couple of eye loops, and hang it on your ceiling track. If the cable is 6' long and your sound bar is up against the wall then you'd probably get 4 - 5' of travel depending on the specific geometry.

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There is a short cable that comes "stock" with the panel and there is also a 6 foot extension cable that is also supplied. In looking at the whole setup you would think that the cable should be routed through the wall so you don't see it but from what I understand, the cable is not in wall rated. I guess it will depend on where you live if there are regulations requiring an in wall rating for such a cable run.




Paying that much for it you would think it would be wall rated. Still ugly I don't want that crap going down my wall lol. This is why I put all my cables in wall so no one would see that crap.
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I know I'm in the minority, but I feel it's a big disappointment to see 3D features absent from top-end displays. 3d films are still being released at a steady rate, and I truly enjoy watching them on my 2011 plasma, (just watched Doctor Strange the other night and I really enjoyed the 3D). When the day comes I need to replace my TV, I'll be looking for 3d features. Emissive technology with low persistence like OLED are well suited for low cross talk with active shutter glasses.


Im with you on this 110%
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What the heck is the difference between the C7 and B7??I know this is about the W7 but its for the wealthy...I'm wondering if I should pull on a 55B or C6 (haven't decided which is better yet) or wait for the B7/C7?
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I know this has nothing to do with the 7 line but I'm awaiting delivery of Billy Lynn's Long Halftime Walk after seeing it's the first 4K HDR 60fps movie. I can not wait to check this out tonight! Thanks for pointing it out in your hands on of the W7
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The version of CalMan I was using didn’t have P3 saturation sweeps, so I had to use the BT.2020 sweeps. The behavior seen here is expected for an OLED TV displaying these sweeps.
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The Techradar review of the W7 seems to think the motion problems are still there.
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There is a short cable that comes "stock" with the panel and there is also a 6 foot extension cable that is also supplied. In looking at the whole setup you would think that the cable should be routed through the wall so you don't see it but from what I understand, the cable is not in wall rated. I guess it will depend on where you live if there are regulations requiring an in wall rating for such a cable run.
It's a low voltage cable. While it may not be officially CL2 rated, I would run it behind a wall without worry.
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The Techradar review of the W7 seems to think the motion problems are still there.
No one said it was fixed but it looks like it may have improved slightly but more users have to look at more content to be really sure.

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I know I'm in the minority, but I feel it's a big disappointment to see 3D features absent from top-end displays. 3d films are still being released at a steady rate, and I truly enjoy watching them on my 2011 plasma, (just watched Doctor Strange the other night and I really enjoyed the 3D). When the day comes I need to replace my TV, I'll be looking for 3d features. Emissive technology with low persistence like OLED are well suited for low cross talk with active shutter glasses.
I agree that it is sad that there is no 3D with the amount of money they charge for the new OLED TV's. I love watching 3D movies and that is one of the reasons why I buy LG over others. I really wish LG would bring 3D back. It would set them apart from other manufacturers
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I agree that it is sad that there is no 3D with the amount of money they charge for the new OLED TV's. I love watching 3D movies and that is one of the reasons why I buy LG over others. I really wish LG would bring 3D back. It would set them apart from other manufacturers
Knowing there would be no 3D for the 2017 OLEDs I immediately bought two E6 T.V.s. The 2D to 3D conversion works O.K but if you go to manual and set depth to +15 and point-of-view to -7 or -8 it improves substantially. With these settings I'm watching all 2D material converted to 3D and have totally lost all interest in HDR and DV -- I won't be buying any more 4K HDR titles. As long as there's no HDR or DV the E6 will convert 4K 2D to 3D (probably down converts it to 1080p but it sure looks amazing!). When glassless 8K 3D, that actually works, is released I'll get in line. Until then I'm going to enjoy what the 2016 models can do and the 2017 models can't.
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On the panel I saw, there was no tinting with a full white screen.
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The Techradar review of the W7 seems to think the motion problems are still there.
One would think, if Philips could come up with BFI on their POS, then the "inventor" of OLED would be too.

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Wait, I missed the memo. Is it now possible to pass-through HD audio formats via HDMI ARC?
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FYI, Scott's Home Theater Geeks episode discussing the TV is now up:

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You can't take pictures that are of any value when the panel is displaying the really low ire's, sorry. You will just have to trust my observations because i'm just telling you what I saw with this particular panel based on my experience seeing many 2016 panels.

The set was picked from retail stock.
Plenty of owners are doing so and posting near black pics on the forum.
But you would have needed to dim the store lights.

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Wait, I missed the memo. Is it now possible to pass-through HD audio formats via HDMI ARC?
Still unclear to me whether we're talking about eARC or some proprietary LG solution.

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