Sony themselves obviously have set their own Z9D beside their A1E, and they say that the Z9D remains the flagship for HDR.
Originally Posted by jphillips63
Do you even own the A1E? You keep referencing an LG to the Z9D but no mention of the A1E, me thinks you're in the wrong thread.....
I am waiting for a proper independent side by side comparison of the A1E to the Z9D. I am not the one who brought up the Z9D in this thread. Al Leong, an A1E owner, likes to keep talking about the Z9D and LCD's in general compared to the A1E, and he claims the increased brightness advantage of LCD is to no avail, and means nothing.
Al keeps claiming repeatedly (and erroneously) that HDR is only graded to 600 nits, and since the A1E can do 650 nits peak (ignoring ABL!) therefore the A1E is perfect, and can perfectly display any and all content. This is misinformation and is simply untrue.
True, I do not have an A1E next to my Z9D, but neither has Al ever set a Z9D next to his A1E, so why does he keep talking about the Z9D in this thread since he does not own one and has not ever set one next to his OLEDs?
The best I can do for now is compare 2016 LG OLED side by side with my Z9D. All I can say is that with content that is graded to 1000+ nits, like the popular HDR demos floating around, there is a very visible and noticeable difference between the Z9D and my C6.
The Z9D has much more pop, and the LG OLED can look sort of dull and lackluster by comparison, even with LG's own demos like Chess. That is why HDTVtest called the Z9D the best HDR TV of 2016 (not OLED), and John Archer of Forbes picked the Z9D over the LG OLED as best HDTV of 2016. Recently, Archer of Forbes reviewed the A1E and claimed he still favors the Z9D for HDR. Some may wish to ignore all of this, and contradict Sony themselves, and claim their A1E is perfection, and even better at HDR, but it appears there must be something lacking, or everyone would agree hands down the A1E is the best at HDR, like Al would have us believe.
So, contrary to Al Leong's baseless claims of A1E perfection, it appears there is something left to be desired with the A1E when it comes to brightness and color volume for HDR. Side by side, I can clearly see where the 2016 LG OLED is lacking when it comes to brightness/pop/color volume.
Perhaps the Sony can appear a bit brighter than the LG OLED with HDR, although some will dispute this. From Sony and Archer, it appears that it is not quite enough to fully close the gap.
The point is, no display is perfect, and there are always tradeoffs and compromises. The Sony A1E obviously can do blacks better than the Z9D, but the much greater peak brightness and lack of aggressive ABL means the Z9D has something extra that the A1E lacks, HDR pop and sizzle.
I still think that compromises must be made in 2017. There is no perfect display that can do perfect blacks as well as spectacular HDR.
With the Z9D, you can get pretty spectacular HDR highlights, and full screen brightness, but you have to give up the perfect blacks of OLED.
With the A1E, one can enjoy perfection in blacks that cannot be had with LCD, but at the expense of visibly less impressive HDR.