Originally Posted by Arysyn
Thanks for the help I've received here in this thread, regarding my television purchasing decision, which largely was between the Sony A1E and the Sony Z9D, but there were a few other, lesser possibilities. I've greatly learned from reading this thread and appreciate all of it. However, my decision is for the 75'-inch Sony Z9D.
I wrote a post over at the main Z9D thread explaining my decision. It was really close, and both televisions are excellent, but there were a few important advantages the Sony Z9D has over the Sony A1E for me long-term. I'd say if the A1E had a more traditional stand underneath the television, rather than the new, untested kickstand, the decision more likely would have been for the A1E.
I, like many I've read mention this, would have loved to seen Samsung introduce a true, emissive form of QLED, without the ir possibilities, and other concerns currently with OLED. I would have chosen that over either LCD or OLED televisions. I'm also very interested in 8k and the possibility of 3D making a comeback at that point when glasses-free technology has a greater chance of true success.
Until then, I believe the Z9D will be just fine for me. However, as a long-time major fan of Sony, I hope well for all of its television models, including the A1E and its future OLEDs, etc.
Good luck with the Z9D. Hope it works well for you. I almost went with that one myself. A couple comments though:
1) The stand on the A1E is surprisingly robust. You can't really switch between the wall mount and table stand modes easily, since there's hardware in both cases to make the whole thing rigid. That part is key, IMO. And then there's the massive weight you add to the back when assembling it to use on a table stand. I honestly wouldn't have been that worried about it as long as you have the depth. It's surprisingly well built to take the stand into account. It's obvious from the fact that the 65" shaved a whole 3-4 lbs off the Z9D of the same size. But I don't think you are going too wrong with either the Z9D or the A1E, IMO. And it's not like the A1E is as affordable as the 75" Z9D is. At that size, I'd have picked the Z9D over the 77" A1E too.
2) I'm not sure QLED would solve the IR issues. It's been a problem to varying degrees with all technologies, and it depends on the maturity of the tech. LCD in particular used to be pretty bad in the 90s, and it took newer versions of the technology to improve on it. Now it is very hard to induce it on most LCDs, but with higher densities for computer screens, we're starting to see a resurgence of the effect. With QLED, my thoughts are that the emissive layer is the thing to pay attention to when it comes to IR. Since that's really where you step away from LCD behavior. It has potential, but I'd wait until we get to see the real deal before hanging my hat on emissive QDs being the thing to kill OLED. I wouldn't mind if it did, but it isn't really something I think we can speculate about with any accuracy.
Originally Posted by Chere
^^^^ The very underrated Vincent Teoh does a great job explaining the pros and cons of the current OLED sets in regards to tone mapping. Looks like it'll be another year or two before OLEDs will resolve the brightness (nits) issue in order to truly resolve this..
I have to agree with others who already posted. It will take more to overcome the brightness limits that OLED currently has. Especially since the white subpixel is partly responsible for helping it get as far as it does. It's already dealing with a deficit on that front.
But this is the sort of detailed comparison around tone mapping on the OLED sets that I've been looking for. Honestly, I have to agree with them that it's Panasonic's approach that seems to be the best one here.