Originally Posted by lsorensen
There is NOTHING simple about DV over HDMI. It is doing something that HDMI 2.0 doesn't support (dynamic metadata) and it seems what Dolby did to make it work was a hack (hence why AVRs and soundbars need to explicitly support passing it) and apparently also had bugs that caused black level problems in a few cases (which now needs the decoder patched on all the TVs). To make things even worse, they decided to make lots of different profiles that work different ways, and Sony got one no one else had used before, which made external devices not work with it yet (although the Apple TV 4k had a beta within a few days that fixed it).
DV has been handled very badly by Dolby so far. This does very much not appear to be Sony's fault. Sony should of course have tested with common external devices themselves earlier to discover the problem before releasing the firmware and being "surprised" it didn't work as they had expected. Supposedly Dolby had claimed all the external devices already supported the new profile when in fact nothing supported the new profile.
I didn't say simple, I said BASIC. Simple or not, displaying output from a player is a basic function
that should be implicit in any claim of "enabled." Actually, I could tell it wasn't simple when I saw OPPO's statement from January that "[we are]working with Dolby and [chip maker] MTK to overcome this issue. We do not have a timescale as to when we will have a fix."
I agree with what you say. It's a great analysis. Sure, it's Dolby's fault for hyping and releasing a half-assed product. But I don't let Sony or OPPO off the hook. (Even Sony's own 4K player, to feed into their "DV-enabled" displays, has no DV support.)
I asked "What gives?" on the owner's forum, and someone came closest to the truth: It's all about about competitive forces. That is, Dolby, Sony et al. -- with the connivance of media -- hyped Dolby Vision as a marketing hook, whether it works properly or not. This really is the definition of vaporwear. It's not that vaporware is a fraud, just that it's stuff that has been hyped by the company and commercial media to get people stampeded to buy, which they wind up having to wait a year to get, just so the brand can get a jump on the competition that doesn't have its own vaporware. I think the promise of DV sold a lot of TVs for Sony, and maybe some players for OPPO. Blame it on Dolby, Sony, OPPO, etc. They haven't delivered as promised, knowing they couldn't deliver. Incompetence is a convenient cloak for connivance. Someone mentioned class action. Not practical, but a nice thought.
Finally, I understand that many owners are quite happy with the A1E with or without DV. I have a pre-4K Sony (55W900A), and it's a wonderful set which I can easily live with until the DV cabal stops jerking consumers around. Then I'll gladly jump.
Anyway, this report from Forbes
, pretty well sums up the fiasco. The fact that it's from late January makes the continuing fiasco more egregious...and suspicious.
Something just occurred to me. On the consumer end, disks are on their way out in favor of the inferior but cheaper streaming. (Like dedicated cameras to smartphones.) Perhaps it's why getting their TVs to display DV from disk players is something Dolby and Sony people just don't give a damn about.