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that's what I always say, LG brings a bad picture !!!
Processing a bad image !
UPSCALE image is worse !

but when i write the truth here, the publicists and shops curse and shout!
5 years LG brings a bad picture

it is interesting whether there will be OLED 12 BIT in 2018
(up scale to 12bit colour with hdmi 2.1 )

Loewe launches 'bild 9' OLED with Dolby Vision ( Interesting how the picture )
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I have an issue with this Sony. Everytime I want to watch Blu-rays the TV either displays a blue or pink hue with the picture. I have to turn everything off and back on again several times in order to get it to work properly. Any ideas to what's happening?
I have an Oppo 203 and a Denon 6300 all hooked up to the HDMI 2 on the TV.

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I have an issue with this Sony. Everytime I want to watch Blu-rays the TV either displays a blue or pink hue with the picture. I have to turn everything off and back on again several times in order to get it to work properly. Any ideas to what's happening?
I have an Oppo 203 and a Denon 6300 all hooked up to the HDMI 2 on the TV.
It sounds like a HDCP issue. Is is possible you can connect the 203 directly to the TV and use the secondary HDMI audio only output of the 203 for the Denon 6300?
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Check out the Sony Premium Website below.
Sony A1E 77" as of today is $14,999.00. Less expensive then 77" LG G7.
http://www.sonypremiumhome.com/premi...vision/A1E.php
Prices are subject to change, we will see if this holds true. I would find it hard to believe the OLED77G7P and the XBR-77A1E will be the same price.
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Thanks to everybody here having helped my decision.




I have bought the A1 to replace my Sony 55XD9305.
Really looking forward to see OLED in my house for the first time.


The A1 will be delivered and installed on may 6th , one day before my birthday!
I will share my findings!
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It sounds like a HDCP issue. Is is possible you can connect the 203 directly to the TV and use the secondary HDMI audio only output of the 203 for the Denon 6300?
Thanks for the advice. I'll try that. I never had this issue with the LG E6 OLED.

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The Clearness High setting does not cause flickering or double imaging to any game I've played.
I've never noticed flickering while immersed in game play, but I've not gone out of my way to look for it either (why torture myself?). I did, however, notice subtle flickering in the Horizon: Zero Dawn title screen. It was pretty obvious in the white title text against the scenic background. That's the only time I've noticed flickering.
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Sony A1E TV

Hi All,
I am interested in purchasing a Sony A1E TV, but I want to see it first. (I guess I am old fashion). I visited several good size dealers in my area today, but they do not expect to have anything on the showroom floor for several months or more. Early ones are all pre-ordered. I live near Manassas, VA jut west of Washington DC.
Can anyone recommend a dealer in VA/MD area that might have one on the floor? I can call them to check and am willing to drive some distance to visit.
Thank you.

Opps. I hope this post is all right. I am not asking for pricing. Just possible dealer with item on the floor. Thanks.

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Hi All,

I am interested in purchasing a Sony A1E TV, but I want to see it first. (I guess I am old fashion). I visited several good size dealers in my area today, but they do not expect to have anything on the showroom floor for several months or more. Early ones are all pre-ordered. I live near Manassas, VA jut west of Washington DC.

Can anyone recommend a dealer in VA/MD area that might have one on the floor? I can call them to check and am willing to drive some distance to visit.

Thank you.



Opps. I hope this post is all right. I am not asking for pricing. Just possible dealer with item on the floor. Thanks.


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Have you tried the Magnolia in Tysons?
No, but that is a good bet. I will check it out.
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Prices are subject to change, we will see if this holds true. I would find it hard to believe the OLED77G7P and the XBR-77A1E will be the same price.


I have 2 sources that say this is the correct price. Sony could change though.


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Have you tried the Magnolia in Tysons?
Thanks gomo657. You were correct. For the past several hours I have been over viewing a Sony A1E firsthand. I did not get a chance to play any of my media - so just viewed (this visit) what they had programed. However, we did try various menu settings, etc. The TV looks very interesting to me. I plan on going back as time permits. Not so sure about the sound system yet. I plan to mount the TV on a wall, so the sound drivers will be quite closed in. We will see. :-)
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My A1E finally arrived and all I could think about was Al when I was unboxing making sure the kick stand was right....

I wall mounted mine and it sticks out about 5-6" but I have an older mount.Maybe with a better low profile one a few inches could be shaven off.

My impression's so far I have only been able to watch Directv content and its Great, a touch better than my 950B in the upscaling department....Watching my NY Yankees manhandle the Toronto Blue Jays....

The pic is nice and incky with punch, cant wait to get it calibrated after break in and give it the full 4k bluray hdr experience.
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Hi All,
I am interested in purchasing a Sony A1E TV, but I want to see it first. (I guess I am old fashion). I visited several good size dealers in my area today, but they do not expect to have anything on the showroom floor for several months or more. Early ones are all pre-ordered. I live near Manassas, VA jut west of Washington DC.
Can anyone recommend a dealer in VA/MD area that might have one on the floor? I can call them to check and am willing to drive some distance to visit.
Thank you.

Opps. I hope this post is all right. I am not asking for pricing. Just possible dealer with item on the floor. Thanks.
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Enjoying Live Stream on Sony VUE of N.Y. Rangers vs Senators. Looks so much better than DirecTV feed. Definitely, NOT as compressed as D*

I'll have to see how the other programming matches up between the two sources.
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Enjoying Live Stream on Sony VUE of N.Y. Rangers vs Senators. Looks so much better than DirecTV feed. Definitely, NOT as compressed as D*

I'll have to see how the other programming matches up between the two sources.


how do you find the motion on vue ? I found it unsatisfactory lots of dropped frames .


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My A1E finally arrived and all I could think about was Al when I was unboxing making sure the kick stand was right....

I wall mounted mine and it sticks out about 5-6" but I have an older mount.Maybe with a better low profile one a few inches could be shaven off.

My impression's so far I have only been able to watch Directv content and its Great, a touch better than my 950B in the upscaling department....Watching my NY Yankees manhandle the Toronto Blue Jays....

The pic is nice and incky with punch, cant wait to get it calibrated after break in and give it the full 4k bluray hdr experience.
Right, just like they manhandled them yesterday, right?
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Enjoying Live Stream on Sony VUE of N.Y. Rangers vs Senators. Looks so much better than DirecTV feed. Definitely, NOT as compressed as D*

I'll have to see how the other programming matches up between the two sources.
Since I've given the Apple TV a ethernet connection using the Netgear Powerline 1200 solution, the DirecTV Now service has been flawless.. A ethernet connection on any TV streaming service I'd highly recommend.
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My A1E finally arrived and all I could think about was Al when I was unboxing making sure the kick stand was right....

I wall mounted mine and it sticks out about 5-6" but I have an older mount.Maybe with a better low profile one a few inches could be shaven off.

My impression's so far I have only been able to watch Directv content and its Great, a touch better than my 950B in the upscaling department....Watching my NY Yankees manhandle the Toronto Blue Jays....

The pic is nice and incky with punch, cant wait to get it calibrated after break in and give it the full 4k bluray hdr experience.
During my first viewing of the Sony A1E this evening I took a good look at the back of it as I also plan to hang it on a wall. It would be quite easy to hang it on a "French Cleat" instead of a standard TV bracket. The Cleat would only add about 3/4" between the wall and the back of the TV. Peter, if you want more info, send me a message.
Best of luck and happy viewing.
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The Clearness High setting does not cause flickering or double imaging to any game I've played. I've tested a variety of setting on my PC (4k 60hz 444, 1080p120hz, 2k60hz) with a multitude of games including my PS4, Wii U and PS3. I haven't seen a single game with Flickering or Ghosting/double imaging. The only time I've seen flickering is when Clearness is set to high on a film (and you really don't need it as the true cinema motion setting handles motion for films/shows perfectly). So Clearness makes 60fps games shine by keeping things in focus and eliminating so much motion blur (as clear as my Plasma VT60) but it doesn't have as big as an impact on 30fps (still no flickering/ghosting) because by their very nature they can't really stay in focus during motion but Clearness on high still makes a difference just not as big as on a 60fps game.

I can't tell you the details of how the BFI works on the A1E as I am not that technically knowledgeable I can only tell you what I experience.
Very interesting.

So, if "clearness" high isn't giving you a double image in motion, and you don't notice any flicker, this means the TV has to be frame-interpolating to 120 Hz and then single strobing the panel (or scanning).

This is a very interesting prospect. Although, doing frame interpolation usually adds significant input lag. What say you on the input lag when using "clearness" high?
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I thought one of the professional reviews stated that setting it to HIGH was problematic?

While setting it to LOW was perfect?

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I have an issue with this Sony. Everytime I want to watch Blu-rays the TV either displays a blue or pink hue with the picture. I have to turn everything off and back on again several times in order to get it to work properly. Any ideas to what's happening?
I have an Oppo 203 and a Denon 6300 all hooked up to the HDMI 2 on the TV.
It's an HDMI handshake problem caused by your Denon.

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Hmm, this review says using motion-flow frame interpolation raises the input lag to an unbearable 100+ms:

https://www.avforums.com/review/sony...v-review.13313

What is the relationship of the motion-flow and "Clearness" setting?
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So, I've had my 65A1E over the weekend, and I can safely say I'm very happy with it. Now, I'm coming from a Panasonic TC-P65VT50 which was a fantastic 1080P plasma display (never went to LCD/LED), so I knew from all the reading that 1080P on 4K was going to be tough to match (and I'm very picky with picture quality). After 4 days of watching with the A1E set to Cinema Pro, I can say the A1E is pretty close to the Panny. I haven't done any tweaks or updates to settings as I will get a few hundred hours on it before I do anything. So, I'm confident I will get the way I like it. As a note, my video source is my TiVo Roamio.

Now, as far as 4K, OMG!!! This thing is GOREGEOUS!! I also upgraded the receiver from a Yamaha RX-A2000 to an RX-A3060 and got the UBP-X800 player, and I can say the image from the Ultra HD disks are excellent. Planet Earth II is mind blowing. I've also played Arrival and the new Ghostbusters which I would say is on opposite sides of extremes (muted grays vs vivid colors). In both cases, the picture quality is definitely better than the standard Bul-ray/Plasma combination. Side note: No banding issues with Arrival, but I haven't been looking hard.

I also am running a Plex media server using an Intel Skull Canyon NUC. All movies are 1080P, and the picture quality is really good. Better than the TiVo 1080 output actually. I was able to sync up my Ghostbusters on the Plex and on the X800 and use the Yamaha to switch back and forth. You really get to appreciate the resolution and HDR that way.

I did hang this on a retractable wall mount. This wall mount was for my first Panny plasma back in 2006, so needless to say, its double wishbone arm is more than capable of supporting this monitor. I only have to worry about extending the arm a different way than the Sony. With the Panasonic, I would grab on either sided of the display from the back and pull out the arm and rotate the screen to point to my kitchen. The Sony screen is so thin, I'm worried it will crack. There is enough meat in the middle where the stand is bolted to the back of the screen.

Now a couple of issues:
1. Netflix on the TV appears to be better than Neflix on the X800. The TV picture seems brighter. Don't know if that's the Yamaha affecting the X800 input (which I have set to passthru essentially)
2. A couple of times throughout a movie playback on the X800, the screen blanks for less than a second. Not sure what's happening there. I'll have to run a cable directly from the X800 to the TV to see if it's the Panny or something else.

I'm in the DFW area, so if anyone knows of a good calibrator, please message me.
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Thanks - thought it would probably be less than ideal - seems a shame Sony haven't developed the idea of a high end tv with acoustic surface and no visible speakers to fit in seamlessly with a surround sound system - would certainly help with the aesthetic police at home - "wow a tv without speakers - except that bloody great thing you've stuck on the wall underneath it!!"
Exactly. I mean why the hell do they think people that spend $7000 on a tv wouldn't be hooking up to a surround sound. Now I have to wait another year until they change this. Like they had to do with the stupid tv with the speakers on the side a few years back.
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Like they had to do with the stupid tv with the speakers on the side a few years back.
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Anyone have any comments on the Cinemotion control? By default it's set to high but i'm not exactly sure what it's supposed to do. I wish Sony would have some documentation on their controls lol

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Does anyone know if the A1 will output sound to tv speakers and optical out or arc simultaneously. Or if an owner could check. Would help with my install wiring before tv arrives - none on display in UK near me yet so can't check
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