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I just got a B7 about a week ago and I’m having issues. I have an audio sync issue which I think I’ve fixed, but the main issue is that at times regular blurays can look extremely noisy and blocky. I’ve used the settings rtings.com used. I’m wondering what is going on. Could this be a bad set? Does this happen? 4K discs look incredible, but regular blurays just don’t look right. Maybe it’s the upconversion? I don’t know. Thanks in advance. This is my first posting on this site. Hope I did it correctly.
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How did find you find the version number of DV?
Go to settings: General > About This TV > TV Information > scroll down to the very bottom
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New to the OLED family and have a question. I bought the B7 and love the tv so far. I have one concern. Movies and sports look fantastic. My issue is HDR games look too dark. I tried enabling dynamic contrast which I don’t like using just to make the picture more bright during HDR gaming, but it looks like it’s messing with the colors. Does anyone have any tips or Game settings to try?


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I used a thumb drive to update my 65B7 to FW version 04.71.00 after downloading from the LG site. Quick and very easy update/install. Directions also on LG site.

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anyone know the Dolby Vision version of the 04.70.90 Korean firmware?...did the 04.71.00 firmware get a newer DV version?

this whole rising black/floating black issue reminds me of multiple generations of Panasonic plasma sets...excellent sets but the blacks would degrade over time...and Panasonic never really fixed it with firmware...they eventually fixed it but you needed to buy a new model TV
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I just got a B7 about a week ago and I’m having issues. I have an audio sync issue which I think I’ve fixed, but the main issue is that at times regular blurays can look extremely noisy and blocky. I’ve used the settings rtings.com used. I’m wondering what is going on. Could this be a bad set? Does this happen? 4K discs look incredible, but regular blurays just don’t look right. Maybe it’s the upconversion? I don’t know. Thanks in advance. This is my first posting on this site. Hope I did it correctly.
From what I remember reading the rtings.com are very old. Try these https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...#gid=854865656, and adjust to preference. Or https://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-ol...l#post55037420

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I just got a B7 about a week ago and I’m having issues. I have an audio sync issue which I think I’ve fixed, but the main issue is that at times regular blurays can look extremely noisy and blocky. I’ve used the settings rtings.com used. I’m wondering what is going on. Could this be a bad set? Does this happen? 4K discs look incredible, but regular blurays just don’t look right. Maybe it’s the upconversion? I don’t know. Thanks in advance. This is my first posting on this site. Hope I did it correctly.
Make sure the disc player and receiver are not upscaling the image. They should be set to pass-through or native. If there are any "auto" image processing settings, turn it off on the player. It could make the image worse, if it's processed by each device in the chain instead of just the tv.
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What was it I saw recently? Something about 70% of America doesn't have high speed internet?

I think it was in the "when will streaming kill the disc?" thread.

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/39-ne...kill-disc.html

Yeah... good luck with that folks. I pay $50 a month for Comcast high speed internet and I have a 1TB data limit (Seattle metro) and I just know Comcast is licking its chops waiting to raise rates when the day comes where streaming is the norm.

How quick do you think uncompressed 4K will burn through my current data limit?

I prefer discs... and to date haven't spent one nickel on digital media. I hope having all these discs on the shelf doesn't come back to bite me one day.






To the tune of $4B last year... read that recently too.


Licking their chops already when people like me pay $150 a month for 300 down and no data and that promo price will end in 3 months and can’t wait to see what they try to charge me, I suspect they will want a fortune unless I bundle some TV.

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Licking their chops already when people like me pay $150 a month for 300 down and no data and that promo price will end in 3 months and can’t wait to see what they try to charge me, I suspect they will want a fortune unless I bundle some TV.
Tell them you got a better deal from their competitor(there's probably at least one) and you are considering switching. They'll cut you another deal. Keep repeating this over and over. I'm paying $139/mo for Gigabit service with no data cap from Comcast currently. I don't pay for TV or phone service.
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Started watching Luke Cage season two today. I use the built in Netflix app and it says Dolby Vision in the upper right corner when I hit play.

Most of the scenes that are not in broad daylight seem way too dark. This is the first time I've had problems with reflections etc. during the day.

The picture is so dim that I had to switch on a light because the white subtitles are so frigging prominent while rest of the picture is dark.

I can't think of any specific example but many times before while watching something in a completely dark room I've had to squint because some scenes get so bright. Luke Cage is the opposite.

Tried messing with the OLED light setting (although I read I shouldn't with Dolby Vision content) and that didn't really help. Maybe it's just this show.
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Started watching Luke Cage season two today. I use the built in Netflix app and it says Dolby Vision in the upper right corner when I hit play.

Most of the scenes that are not in broad daylight seem way too dark. This is the first time I've had problems with reflections etc. during the day.

The picture is so dim that I had to switch on a light because the white subtitles are so frigging prominent while rest of the picture is dark.

I can't think of any specific example but many times before while watching something in a completely dark room I've had to squint because some scenes get so bright. Luke Cage is the opposite.

Tried messing with the OLED light setting (although I read I shouldn't with Dolby Vision content) and that didn't really help. Maybe it's just this show.
Netflix has the worst Dolby Vision content. It's terrible on all their Marvel content. The highlights are blinding. I preferred watching Netflix Marvel shows in 4K SDR from Apple TV with Dolby Vision off.

I played a 5 minutes of Lost in Space. The Dolby Vision looked pretty good. It really depends on the content.
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The latest American firmware 4.71 is newer than the Korean firmware 4.70.90. It is released in a phased rollout for 06/20-06/30. Companies typically do phased rollout of software, so it doesn't crash like IOS mass update has in the past.

My TV updated yesterday.

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If you have the new updated software and still have issues, then you are out of luck. If you don't have the software yet, check back after 06/30 for it.

Whatever you do, make sure it's connected by ethernet or 2.4ghz WIFI. There is a 5ghz WIFI fix in firmware 4.71. After your update is done, you can switch back to 5ghz WIFI.
.90 fixed the WiFi issue. If someone is already on .90, it doesn't matter what frequency they use since either one works fine now.

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Is M19 the only game you've noticed it this badly? If so, and seeing that it's a beta - perhaps message EA with feedback and request they add brightness/contrast/gamma sliders to the game? That should be what you'd need to get it balanced out.



Either that, or cross your fingers and hope it's something they fix for the full game.


It happens on other games too. In mlb the show it’s so dark you can’t even see some of the fans in the stands or the faces or the players. I noticed it on a couple of games like forza 7 as well. It looks dim and kills a lot of the details. I’m still testing other games.


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Most games are to dim but madden stands out bad...But is not the game as I have the q8fn and it looks perfect on that


I still have my ks8000 and you’re correct. On those sets HDR games look great. I think it’s Game mode that look too dim and some games are ok while others are too dim.


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If the games have a separate HDR brightness slider, trying using that...also I find that DC on low provides a nice boost without perceptibly affecting PQ, but I understand the aversion enabling this.
In HDR mode Dynamic Contrast on Low is absolutely fine if you need a brighter image, since that just enables the active HDR function and adjusts the tone-mapping curve to be a bit brighter. It's on Medium or High settings where the set is going off doing its own thing and is no longer accurate. It also doesn't look good as it tends to make the image a bit bleached out/desaturated.
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For gaming, make sure your RGB settings and black levels are matched. That causes the over saturated look. On PS4, I have RGB Auto (which is outputting full) and black level high. With SDR gaming, Full = High and limited = low. (In HDR game mode, leave it at low though).


I put the color temperature at W45 on Game mode. It’s more accurate. The settings out the box is more towards blue than warm.


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For gaming, make sure your RGB settings and black levels are matched. That causes the over saturated look. On PS4, I have RGB Auto (which is outputting full) and black level high. With SDR gaming, Full = High and limited = low. (In HDR game mode, leave it at low though).
I'm not sure if the Nintendo Switch has any of those settings. That it the bulk of my SDR gaming, and some light PC gaming.

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In HDR mode Dynamic Contrast on Low is absolutely fine if you need a brighter image, since that just enables the active HDR function and adjusts the tone-mapping curve to be a bit brighter. It's on Medium or High settings where the set is going off doing its own thing and is no longer accurate. It also doesn't look good as it tends to make the image a bit bleached out/desaturated.
Active HDR (tone-mapping on DC low) doesn't work in game mode though, I think its just a subdued regular DC. That being said, I haven't noticed any issues using DC Low in game mode HDR.
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So the games I played with HDR in my OLED are

COD WW2= Looks amazing due to the internal HDR and Brightness slider

Madden 19 Beta XBOX ONE X= Way to dim in the day and night games. Night games under the lights are too dark but the stadium lights do shine bright but in-game camera to dim

Ghost Recon Wildlands looks amazing as it is no in-game adjustments needed. Night can be too dark but night vision goggles help

Witcher 3 looks amazing after using the internal game gamma setting and raising it....

I will update this post when I do the next few games below

Assassins Creed Origins
Gears of War 4
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So, I watched the season finale of Westworld last night and while the picture looked great in most scenes, there were scenes like this that left me disappointed. I've also had this issue in PS4 games I've played as well. Is there any settings that will help with this:

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Since LG, for whatever reason, doesn't have an HBO app I have to use the one on my Xbox One X. FYI - it is not set to game mode and the console is directly connected to the TV. I understand most of this probably has to do with the source(HBO) but I'm just wondering if there are any settings that will help smooth out this color banding(posterization)? I loaded this same scene up on my Sharp LED in the bedroom and didn't even notice it. I had to get right in front of the TV screen to barely make it out.

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So, I watched the season finale of Westworld last night and while the picture looked great in most scenes, there were scenes like this that left me disappointed. I've also had this issue in PS4 games I've played as well. Is there any settings that will help with this:

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Since LG, for whatever reason, doesn't have an HBO app I have to use the one on my Xbox One X. FYI - it is not set to game mode and the console is directly connected to the TV. I understand most of this probably has to do with the source(HBO) but I'm just wondering if there are any settings that will help smooth out this color banding(posterization)? I loaded this same scene up on my Sharp LED in the bedroom and didn't even notice it. I had to get right in front of the TV screen to barely make it out.


That banding is usually related to low bandwidth and or low res (less than 1080p) content. While I didn’t see any banding via HBOGO and my ATV4k when I got up close I could see compression artifacts when paused. I’m going to wait until the UHDBRs get released to do a rewatch.
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I'm not sure if the Nintendo Switch has any of those settings. That it the bulk of my SDR gaming, and some light PC gaming.
Switch does have RGB settings you can access for TV output. I put it and my PS3 at full too so I don't have to mess with the black level all the time.

Also, posters are correct about active HDR not being the same thing in game mode.

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So, I watched the season finale of Westworld last night and while the picture looked great in most scenes, there were scenes like this that left me disappointed. I've also had this issue in PS4 games I've played as well. Is there any settings that will help with this:

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Since LG, for whatever reason, doesn't have an HBO app I have to use the one on my Xbox One X. FYI - it is not set to game mode and the console is directly connected to the TV. I understand most of this probably has to do with the source(HBO) but I'm just wondering if there are any settings that will help smooth out this color banding(posterization)? I loaded this same scene up on my Sharp LED in the bedroom and didn't even notice it. I had to get right in front of the TV screen to barely make it out.
I had the same issue. Near the end, Bernard and Delores enter the virtual world. There was color banding in the dark sky. I played it from Apple TV 4k, but the Apple TV was upscaling to 4k not LG.

If your Xbox One X is set to 4k output, you could try setting it to native and let LG handle the video processing.
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If your Xbox One X is set to 4k output, you could try setting it to native and let LG handle the video processing.
Just tried this and went back and watched that same scene and still there. Thanks for the suggestion though.
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That banding is usually related to low bandwidth and or low res (less than 1080p) content. While I didn’t see any banding via HBOGO and my ATV4k when I got up close I could see compression artifacts when paused. I’m going to wait until the UHDBRs get released to do a rewatch.

I don't have the fastest internet speeds where I live but I get 40mbps and I tested the connection the X1 and its saying around 35mbps so I think I'm good there.
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Netflix has the worst Dolby Vision content. It's terrible on all their Marvel content. The highlights are blinding. I preferred watching Netflix Marvel shows in 4K SDR from Apple TV with Dolby Vision off.

I played a 5 minutes of Lost in Space. The Dolby Vision looked pretty good. It really depends on the content.
I think Netflix has excellent DV content- Altered Carbon, Lost in Space, the Marvel shows etc...Amazon's HDR content for some reason does look a bit better- Electric Dreams in HDR looked better then any DV content on Netflix...not a night/day difference but slightly better colors and blacks
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Just tried this and went back and watched that same scene and still there. Thanks for the suggestion though.
What are the color depth and color space setting on the console?
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I think Netflix has excellent DV content- Altered Carbon, Lost in Space, the Marvel shows etc...Amazon's HDR content for some reason does look a bit better- Electric Dreams in HDR looked better then any DV content on Netflix...not a night/day difference but slightly better colors and blacks
That's nice that it looks great to you. It still doesn't solve theathlete's problem with Dolby Vision. If you have any helpful suggestions, you can help him on that by replying to his post. Thanks in advance, my friend.

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That's nice that it looks great to you. It still doesn't solve theathlete's problem with Dolby Vision. If you have any helpful suggestions, you can help him on that. Thanks in advance, my friend.
it might not be a 'problem'...might just be a subjective opinion that he doesn't like the look of Dolby Vision...or it may be a specific setting...I think everyone should either have their sets professionally calibrated or look up some settings online and use them as a starting point
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What are the color depth and color space setting on the console?

Color depth is set to 24bits per pixel(8-bit) and Color space is set to Standard.
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I don't have the fastest internet speeds where I live but I get 40mbps and I tested the connection the X1 and its saying around 35mbps so I think I'm good there.


Those speeds unless tested to the HBOGO servers from your Xbox mean nothing. You may get 35Mbps, but only have 20 or less to HBO. It may be throttling the stream and giving you lower quality (such as 720P or low bitrate 1080p.
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