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does the processor make much of a difference as far as you know?


Not sure. Maybe in regard to the overall snappiness of the apps and better processing for motion interpolation if you use it.

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Disney wants an arm and a leg for their 4K/HDR/WCG (12 bit) content. The HD version is SDR/8 bit color which is why you see banding. There has been a silent battle going on between Apple and Disney regarding the pricing of their 4K/HDR/WCG content on iTunes. Apple wants to charge around $5.99 to rent - which is the same price that they charge for HD content. For a while you could rent the 4K/DV version on Vudu for $12.99, but now there's also only the HD/SDR versions available for rent @ $5.99. Again, as you mentioned, we have to wait for Disney's service to launch. It will be interesting to see how much they will try to squeeze out of us.


In Europe I think it is, they have a service from Disney which allows you access to their entire catalog of movies and books as well as Disney shows and live Disney channel streaming. It’s cheaper than Netflix from what I heard. I’m not sure but it may include soundtracks too.
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Did you watch the whole time the red background was on screen from 17:10 onward? You saw no color banding whatsoever during the whole scene? What picture mode are you watching in? You saw it on netflix but not your 4K disc correct?
You were pretty specific with the time frame so I just watched that little bit of the scene. But I can see the difference between netflix and the disk clearly in just that little bit. I watched in both HDR10 tecnicolor and cinema user DV (Which I finally got working).

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Service guy came over and I asked whether he has a lot of issues with these OLED models and he just kind of chuckled (usually not a good sign).

This is the 3rd time he’s been over. First time he was over was upon delivery. LG required their service personnel to open the box and turn on the TV. The first unit turned on but the image was all purple/green and he said bad screen. Second time a new unit was delivered and he came over to unbox it to power up and it was ok and worked for 8 months. Today is the third time he’s been over and now he’ll need to order a replacement board. This tells me the quality of these TV’s aren’t very good. Luckily I did buy a 2 year extended warranty from Sams Club but what happens after that? Do these TV’s only last a few years.
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I noticed a post in the price talk thread for the C8 that suggested there is some film on the back of the LG OLED that needs to be removed prior to use and the poster provided a link to LG in India for this info. I copied the link to below. Does this requirement apply to the C7 USA version? This is the first I've seen this and I can find nothing about it in the C7 user/installation manual or the C8 manual for that matter but perhaps I missed something.


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Yes there is also a plastic film on the back of the B7/C7 also that has to be removed.
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I posted a long time ago about the clear plastic film on the back of my C7 because I too saw that description from LG. Had it for about a month and took it off but picture looks great and don't see how it could get any better. It didn't affect it at all and LG does not include any sticker or warning information anywhere in the box or tv to remove it.
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Is there any reason(s) why this can not be left on?

I do not see it interfering with anything back there. I left mine on for additional protection.
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I left the thin clear plastic film on the back of my set as well. It's on the back of just the thin upper part of the screen, where there are no grilles, holes or any other openings that it might cover, anyhow. Seems to me that if it really needed to be removed for any reason, there would've been a notice to that effect somewhere in the packaging.
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Good luck with leaving that crap on- after some time, when it starts to peel and gets all gooey, you'll have a hell of a time getting it off. Take the condom off after it's served its purpose.
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OK, having posted the above smartass reply, I checked, and my condom it still on too! Could have sworn the delivery guys peeled that off. Mine's wall mounted so, hmmm....may have to leave it on for a while.
Did a little googling on this and apparently LG says to remove the film from the front (obviously) and the back. Here's the link.
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^^^ Just removed the film from the back of my 65C7. It comes off quite easily and is clearly intended to be removed.
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Did a little googling on this and apparently LG says to remove the film from the front (obviously) and the back. Here's the link.
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^^^ Just removed the film from the back of my 65C7. It comes off quite easily and is clearly intended to be removed.
Thank you for your diligence on this issue.

Based on your research, I have removed mine as well.

It's funny, but I treat this TV with such knit gloves. A simple thing like removing or keeping film on the back of the TV makes me ponder. You would think I am analyzing which stock to invest in next.........
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Thank you for your diligence on this issue.

Based on your research, I have removed mine as well.

It's funny, but I treat this TV with such knit gloves. A simple thing like removing or keeping film on the back of the TV makes me ponder. You would think I am analyzing which stock to invest in next.........
Holy crap! I had no idea there was a film on the back. Took me a few minutes to realize even with a flash light right up on it. Now for the front. I've had my B7 LG 65 for 2 weeks now. I don't actually see a film on the front, no sticker, and I can't really see anything. Do every LG OLED come with this film?
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Did a little googling on this and apparently LG says to remove the film from the front (obviously) and the back. Here's the link.
Not sure if you noticed, but that's the same link that Chris Hansen first posted.

Did anyone bother to click on the link the first time? I did, and I thought for sure there would have been a bunch of comments here about the reasoning given for removing the film. In particular, this point about what might happen if the films weren't removed: "Improper heat dissipation while panel works and resulting to panel defect immediately." (This all appears in the India version of the site, which explains the wonky English.)

Really? I'm not sure how many people actually believe that's an issue, but I guess that's a "LG's covering its butt" thingy in case the highly unlikely (practically impossible?) occurs.

I also didn't notice that there was a film on the upper back of the screen until maybe a month or two ago, then promptly forgot about it. Better safe than sorry--I'll remove it now to avert a zombie apocalypse.
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Holy crap! I had no idea there was a film on the back. Took me a few minutes to realize even with a flash light right up on it. Now for the front. I've had my B7 LG 65 for 2 weeks now. I don't actually see a film on the front, no sticker, and I can't really see anything. Do every LG OLED come with this film?

I think I remember reading that 2017 models don't have it on the front anymore, but in the past some did (although they tended to have yellow labels saying 'remove me' or something like that).

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The OPPO 203 has an upgrade which allows the following - OPINIONS?????

01. Added the “Dolby Vision” mode under the HDR Setting menu, which allows the player to convert the output to Dolby Vision when possible.
02. Added the “Dolby Vision Processing” setting under the HDR Setting menu. This setting allows customers to choose whether Dolby Vision processing is handled mainly by the TV or the UDP-20x player.

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The OPPO 203 has an upgrade which allows the following - OPINIONS?????

01. Added the “Dolby Vision” mode under the HDR Setting menu, which allows the player to convert the output to Dolby Vision when possible.
02. Added the “Dolby Vision Processing” setting under the HDR Setting menu. This setting allows customers to choose whether Dolby Vision processing is handled mainly by the TV or the UDP-20x player.
The HDR = Dolby Vision is a forced mode which would make SDR/HDR10 run under the DV engine which disables the usual controls. You don't use it normally, you use HDR = AUTO to perform normal output including Dolby Vision.

You also don't need to use either TV-led or Player-led unless you need to proof out if your set is comparable to the original DV profile operation versus the Sony profile operation. Once again the separate Dolby Vision setting = Auto is what you should use. No there is not a operational difference that you will discern.

For people with OLED you should try the forced DV (HDR= Dolby Vision) on HDR10 content to see if you like it. A lot of beta users did enjoy its operation.

Reminder once you use force DV you have to stop the media to get back to being able to change from HDR=Dolby Vision to HDR = Auto or something else. Why because the settings are greyed out while the DV engine is running.

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I love how even my blu rays look like they got a facelift when watching them on this set. I watched Star Trek : First Contact last night, and it looked really nice with the total black of space and the bright highlights of the weapons fire. I'm excited to see how others like Star Wars, LOTR, etc look too when upscaled.

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Did a little googling on this and apparently LG says to remove the film from the front (obviously) and the back. Here's the link.
Well, given the info. in the link, I've removed the film, after all, from the backside of the thin upper portion of the screen on our 55B7P.

Though, I'm still quite skeptical that leaving the film in place on the thin upper backside portion of the screen could cause any harm given that there are no grills, holes or any other type of openings on the portion of the backside of the screen covered by the film - nor was there ever any perceptible heat on or about that portion of the set that the film could have trapped or interfered with - nor was there any warning or advise to remove that piece of film, either on the film itself (at least there was no such warning or advice on ours) or anywhere else in either the set's packaging or any of the documentation provided. But just out of an over-abundance of caution, the film is now gone...

Thanks everyone for all the input on this issue.
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The HDR = Dolby Vision is a forced mode which would make SDR/HDR10 run under the DV engine which disables the usual controls. You don't use it normally, you use HDR = AUTO to perform normal output including Dolby Vision.



You also don't need to use either TV-led or Player-led unless you need to proof out if your set is comparable to the original DV profile operation versus the Sony profile operation. Once again the separate Dolby Vision setting = Auto is what you should use. No there is not a operational difference that you will discern.



For people with OLED you should try the forced DV (HDR= Dolby Vision) on HDR10 content to see if you like it. A lot of beta users did enjoy its operation.



Reminder once you use force DV you have to stop the media to get back to being able to change from HDR=Dolby Vision to HDR = Auto or something else. Why because the settings are greyed out while the DV engine is running.


I find active hdr with HDR10 to look fine. I’d rather not convert the image and do too much processing. That’s just me

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Help! ARC on my C7 suddenly stopped working after the firmware update. All the settings seem right, but it simply doesn't work any more. Won't turn on my receiver, no sound, nothing. Any ideas? Do I need to revert back to the previous software? Is that even possible? I have an Onkyo TX-NR676 receiver.
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This is before upgrade & I will post after upgrade this pm.

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After the FW upgrade 6/23/2018 (Note FW upgrade was simple and fairly quick using a thumb drive & TV USB port. FW & upgrade directions on LG site.)
Model OLED65B7A-U
S/N 709RMJF8xxxx
SW Version 04.71.00
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I just updated my 55B7A to the Korean 04.70.90 firmware. My TV has a May, 2018 build date, and came with 04.70.50 firmware. I recorded the information for our edification prior to updating; see details below.

Analysis
04.70.36 and 04.70.50 have different webOS versions, but the same DV version.
04.70.90 and 04.71.00 have different webOS versions, but the same DV version.

Travis, I think you have an extra digit in your 04.70.36 webOS version, so I guessed at what it might have actually been.

SW Version 04.70.36 (posted above)
webOS Version 3.7.0-57114 (dreadlocks2-drto)
Dolby Vision 1.4.4_06.00

SW Version 04.70.50 (came with my TV)
webOS Version 3.7.0-57117 (dreadlocks2-drto)
Dolby Vision 1.4.4_06.00

SW Version 04.70.90 (Installed via USB on 6/29/18)
webOS Version 3.7.1-57125 (dreadlocks2-drto)
Dolby Vision 1.4.4_07.01

SW Version 04.71.00 (posted above)
webOS Version 3.7.1-57127 (dreadlocks2-drto)
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Putting the new firmware though it’s paces tonight, all my DV problem disks have perfect blacks and no issues with the black bars . Apple had a special on Annihilation this week - 4k DV for $9.99 - so I jumped especially given the cost of the 4k disk. Call me very impressed with how things looked via ATV4k and my LG. Staying away from spoilers, at the end there are some scenes that are so bright I turned to the side, but they weren’t blown out. How could one need any more nits - I’d need sunglasses. Colors looked great and blacks held up really well without crushing.

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Sooooo guys, its seems that if you use HDR Cinema Home and disable trumotion and Real Cinema, you will get pretty decent input lag for gaming(around 30 ms) all of this with the Active HDR working :O
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Sooooo guys, its seems that if you use HDR Cinema Home and disable trumotion and Real Cinema, you will get pretty decent input lag for gaming(around 30 ms) all of this with the Active HDR working :O
Highly doubt it....What is the source of proof
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Highly doubt it....What is the source of proof
its been discused in the latest pages of the Resetera Gaming forum.
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Should be easy enough to prove with one of those leo devices for lag testing. Could be interesting.

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So I've been messing with the TV today, just high level tweaking. My main challenge (other than vertical banding), is the studder. On a movie like Sicario *(vudu stream). The beginning scene where the camera pans left slow. It's pretty jarring. I don't want the soap opera affect, but also don't want this nasty studder. Is there a setting folks are using that minimizes this?

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its been discused in the latest pages of the Resetera Gaming forum.
no chance it is 30ms...I tried it and it feels better for sure over other presets that have about 65ms but this feels like is between 35-45 ms which is a huge difference from 21ms....I could not play COD

games like god of war or uncharted or witcher might be fine as there is no need for quick time responses but mlb the show and shooters needs quick response from inputs
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Yeah, it’s noticeably better than using technicolor or cinema mode but still not as good as game mode.

Still a nice alternative for games that don’t have an hdr slider. These sets still track very well without Active HDR if max luminance is 1000 nits.
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I have my OLED65B7P connected to my Denon H6400 Receiver via ARC and it works with no issues. I setup the smart remote to control the Denon which also seems to work fine. When you hit the input button on the smart remote, it will show the Denon listed on the right hand side where I can select to switch back to the receiver when I'm using the TV apps. Under the Denon it shows two inputs that I can select to switch too when I select the Denon. It shows my Firestick and my Chromecast. It does not show my cable box, PS4 or Media PC that are on the other Receiver HDMI ports and are the three I want to see to be able to select. Why don't the other components show up under Denon to be able to select and can I make them show up somehow? Drives me crazy to have to select firestick then use the Denon remote to select the cable input.

I hope I was able to explain that clearly and thanks for any help.
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So I've been messing with the TV today, just high level tweaking. My main challenge (other than vertical banding), is the studder. On a movie like Sicario *(vudu stream). The beginning scene where the camera pans left slow. It's pretty jarring. I don't want the soap opera affect, but also don't want this nasty studder. Is there a setting folks are using that minimizes this?

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There seems to be a lot of variance in the settings that people use to help with stutter so you will likely get conflicting ideas.
Personally I find that going into Picture Mode Settings/Picture Options/TruMotion/User and then setting De- Judder at 3 or even 4 and De - Blur at 10 works well for me and I don't see any soap Opera Effect.

EDIT: Changed De- Blur at 3 or even 4 to De-judder at 3 or even 4. oops !

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Guys does the TV support exFAT format for USB hard drives?
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Hi all,

Does anyone know if there's a standard audio delay setting for the C7 - when sending audio to the TV via a Denon receiver? (I'm currently experiencing a slight sync issue).

Is 40ms a safe bet?

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I find active hdr with HDR10 to look fine. I’d rather not convert the image and do too much processing. That’s just me
I don't know if the (HDR) image is really converted in that sense since both HDR10 and Dolby Vision use the exact same EOTF/"gamma" function and color gamut, if anything I believe you're getting a cleaner throughput from the disc to the final output with Dolby Vision. In every test I've done the processing has been better and much less prone to banding and blocking artifacts in DV mode, in addition to occasionally lowering the black level (without crushing) and saving some highlight information where it sometimes blows out in active HDR mode.

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