2017 LG C7-B7 Owners' Thread (No Price Talk) - Page 1110 - AVS Forum | Home Theater Discussions And Reviews
Forum Jump: 
 980419Likes
Reply
 
Thread Tools
post #33271 of 36408 Old 10-30-2018, 10:57 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
smurraybhm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Down South
Posts: 4,656
Mentioned: 20 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2307 Post(s)
Liked: 3165
Quote:
Originally Posted by rego00123 View Post
This looks like a defect of the production process.
OLED screens are comprised of layers of materials that get pressed and heat bonded together with some layers receiving a small amount of adhesive. Somehow (it looks like) air has remained inside the screen instead of being pressed out, presumably the only way this could happen like your picture would be during the bonding process.

Think of it like a screen protector on a phone when air bubbles get trapped during their instillation.

It looks very similar to the panel of an owner of a C8 who thought the screen filter was actually the protective film that is on the panel when new in the box, they started removing it before discovering their error. Wondering if whoever owned this display tried to remove the filter for whatever reason or made the same mistake. Seeing the end result promptly turned around and sold it since it wouldn't be covered by LG.

There is no perfect display, quit looking for faults and enjoy

LG OLED 65” B7 and 55” C8
Ascend's with RAAL, Love my PSA v1800 and a 7.2.4 speaker config, Oppo 203 and other stuff
smurraybhm is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #33272 of 36408 Old 10-30-2018, 01:58 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 49
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 58 Post(s)
Liked: 4
When watching netflix and there are extensive dark scenes i have noticed that the tv dims the image considerably after a while. Can somebody please explain to me why that happens and how to prevent it?
Valkyre is offline  
post #33273 of 36408 Old 10-30-2018, 04:31 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 193
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 111 Post(s)
Liked: 68
Quote:
Originally Posted by Valkyre View Post
When watching netflix and there are extensive dark scenes i have noticed that the tv dims the image considerably after a while. Can somebody please explain to me why that happens and how to prevent it?
Looks like ABSL. (auto dimming)

Do you happen to be watching The Haunting of Hill House?
Bumrush is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #33274 of 36408 Old 10-30-2018, 09:51 PM
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 9
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Liked: 7
New firmware is now on the US site if anyone feels more comfortable using it over the Korean site. Should be the same thing.


1. Improvement
1) Improvement regarding Netflix usability have been applied.
2) Addition of satellite channels and feature updates in certain countries. (Russia/CIS country)
3) IPv6 connection feature on/off can be selected from Network/Wired Connection settings.
4) also, minor bugs are fixed.
sonoftumble likes this.
ndukechi is offline  
post #33275 of 36408 Old 10-31-2018, 12:04 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 49
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 58 Post(s)
Liked: 4
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bumrush View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Valkyre View Post
When watching netflix and there are extensive dark scenes i have noticed that the tv dims the image considerably after a while. Can somebody please explain to me why that happens and how to prevent it?
Looks like ABSL. (auto dimming)

Do you happen to be watching The Haunting of Hill House?
No i am watching Ozark but i have noticed it hapening with ohter series as well. Is there a way to disable this? It super annoying and tbh i do not understand how a dark scene can cause a problem to the TV.

Also why doesnt this happen when playing videogames? I only notice this with netflix. Is it a netflix thing?

Last edited by Valkyre; 10-31-2018 at 12:13 AM.
Valkyre is offline  
post #33276 of 36408 Old 10-31-2018, 02:07 AM
Senior Member
 
P40L0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 319
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 193 Post(s)
Liked: 125
Quote:
Originally Posted by Claudiu Gardelli View Post
Damn, I'm looking for the same thing.
Please let me know if you stumble upon the EU version.
Official 5.80.04 firmware is now available in all EU Countries through LG Support website.
(for example, Italy -> https://www.lg.com/it/supporto/softw...eVisibleFlag=2 )

Changelog:

1) Improvement regarding Netflix usability have been applied.
2) Addition of satellite channels and feature updates in certain countries. (Russia/CIS country)
3) IPv6 connection feature on/off can be selected from Network/Wired Connection settings.
4) also, minor bugs are fixed.
sonoftumble likes this.
P40L0 is offline  
post #33277 of 36408 Old 10-31-2018, 03:20 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 20
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 22 Post(s)
Liked: 12
Can anyone check if it fixes the dark HDR gamemode?
Robin77 is offline  
post #33278 of 36408 Old 10-31-2018, 04:04 AM
Senior Member
 
P40L0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 319
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 193 Post(s)
Liked: 125
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robin77 View Post
Can anyone check if it fixes the dark HDR gamemode?
PQ wise everything is the same as before, except in PC Input where now the Rec2020 Gamut is fixed during HDR...but with HDR still always limited to 8-bit in this mode.

For HDR gaming just don't use PC Input, and to brighten up HDR Game mode just increase its Dynamic Contrast to Medium or High.

See this post for more info.
P40L0 is offline  
post #33279 of 36408 Old 10-31-2018, 04:53 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
cmdrdredd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: FL
Posts: 7,103
Mentioned: 39 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4254 Post(s)
Liked: 4545
2017 LG C7-B7 Owners' Thread (No Price Talk)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Robin77 View Post
Can anyone check if it fixes the dark HDR gamemode?


I do not understand why people keep asking about this. LG said a long time ago that they changed it because they believe tone mapping is a better method than clipping and they won’t change it. It’s been treated over and over in the thread.

LG 65" B7A OLED, Samsung 55" JS9000, Sony 43" x800e, Denon AVR-X2200w 5.1.2, PS4 Pro, Nintendo Switch, Gaming PC(GTX 1080ti + 4.7Ghz 8700k), Sony UBP-x800, Philips BDP-7501, Oppo BDP-203, Nvidia Shield TV
2x Elac F5/Elac C5/2x AR PS2052/2x Pioneer SP-T22A-LR/Power Sound Audio 15v w/ Anti-Mode 8033S-II
cmdrdredd is offline  
post #33280 of 36408 Old 10-31-2018, 05:24 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 20
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 22 Post(s)
Liked: 12
Wink

It's beacause of that's a bug. See explaination here at the end of the video on youtube: youtube.com/watch?v=IyII6Z80unY
And please stop writing about this, cause as you said, YOU don't undesrtand.....
Robin77 is offline  
post #33281 of 36408 Old 10-31-2018, 06:29 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 20
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 22 Post(s)
Liked: 12
Quote:
Originally Posted by P40L0 View Post
PQ wise everything is the same as before, except in PC Input where now the Rec2020 Gamut is fixed during HDR...but with HDR still always limited to 8-bit in this mode.
Quote:
Originally Posted by P40L0 View Post
For HDR gaming just don't use PC Input, and to brighten up HDR Game mode just increase its Dynamic Contrast to Medium or High.

See this post for more info.



In another Forum someone wrote:
So I took my chances and updated to the beta 05.80.04 firmware for my lg 2017 oled. Pc mode for hdr has been fixed. So it's totally viable as a permanent setting in all cases. But output must be yuv420 at the most. If you set to yuv422 there will be lots of banding/posterisation in hdr
What can you say about that?
Robin77 is offline  
post #33282 of 36408 Old 10-31-2018, 06:34 AM
Member
 
Join Date: May 2018
Posts: 155
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 107 Post(s)
Liked: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robin77 View Post
It's beacause of that's a bug. See explaination here at the end of the video on youtube: youtube.com/watch?v=IyII6Z80unY
And please stop writing about this, cause as you said, YOU don't undesrtand.....
cmdrdredd is an expert here. But, the way to make people understand is to provide details and examples.

I game in sdr and hdr with OLED light at 35 to 40 (Destiny 2, Forza, others) in a room with 5 west facing windows and 2 north facing windows, just blinds no curtains, so not a dark space. Destiny is famous for inconsistent HDR implementation (caves, Petra challenges) but otherwise, like Forza, it can be overwhelmingly bright in outside scenes. For SDR I set settings with proper contrast and brightness slides and clearly see the full range, for HDR I use RTINGS' settings (which are just standard HDR settings BTW).

I've never seen any pictures or YT videos of "too dark" games. The video you linked too is for an 8 series not a 7 and 8's are brighter than 7's (this is a 7 thread BTW). I watched the last 5 minutes of the video and they said nothing about "too dark" gaming modes.
nathan_h, cmdrdredd and smurraybhm like this.
cathodeRay is offline  
post #33283 of 36408 Old 10-31-2018, 06:38 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 20
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 22 Post(s)
Liked: 12
Quote:
Originally Posted by cathodeRay View Post
cmdrdredd is an expert here. But, the way to make people understand is to provide details and examples.

I game in sdr and hdr with OLED light at 35 to 40 (Destiny 2, Forza, others) in a room with 5 west facing windows and 2 north facing windows, just blinds no curtains, so not a dark space. Destiny is famous for inconsistent HDR implementation (caves, Petra challenges) but otherwise, like Forza, it can be overwhelmingly bright in outside scenes. For SDR I set settings with proper contrast and brightness slides and clearly see the full range, for HDR I use RTINGS' settings (which are just standard HDR settings BTW).

I've never seen any pictures or YT videos of "too dark" games. The video you linked too is for an 8 series not a 7 and 8's are brighter than 7's (this is a 7 thread BTW). I watched the last 5 minutes of the video and they said nothing about "too dark" gaming modes.
Can't look if its the right video cause I'm at work, but he shows there a pic where the PQ Curve is compared from hdr gamemode on b7 and c8. And there he says why this is a bad approach from LG to do so.
Panasonic and others do this thing right.
Robin77 is offline  
post #33284 of 36408 Old 10-31-2018, 06:41 AM
Senior Member
 
P40L0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 319
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 193 Post(s)
Liked: 125
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robin77 View Post


In another Forum someone wrote:
So I took my chances and updated to the beta 05.80.04 firmware for my lg 2017 oled. Pc mode for hdr has been fixed. So it's totally viable as a permanent setting in all cases. But output must be yuv420 at the most. If you set to yuv422 there will be lots of banding/posterisation in hdr
What can you say about that?
I tested the new "PC Input" mode, and there are still color banding issues in HDR even disabling 4:2:2 on X1X.
When playing the 4K/HDR BluRay of Planet Earth 2, for example, color banding was much worse compared to the same profile/settings outside "PC Input"

My recommendation is to limit "PC Input" mode to real "PC" usage, replacing a monitor, as 4:4:4 SDR looks great with more clear texts.
For HDR Games/Movies, use regular HDMI input with the rest of the settings provided in my previous post.
P40L0 is offline  
post #33285 of 36408 Old 10-31-2018, 06:49 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 20
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 22 Post(s)
Liked: 12
Quote:
Originally Posted by P40L0 View Post
I tested the new "PC Input" mode, and there are still color banding issues in HDR even disabling 4:2:2 on X1X.
When playing the 4K/HDR BluRay of Planet Earth 2, for example, color banding was much worse compared to the same profile/settings outside "PC Input"

My recommendation is to limit "PC Input" mode to real "PC" usage, replacing a monitor, as 4:4:4 SDR looks great with more clear texts.
For HDR Games/Movies, use regular HDMI input with the rest of the settings provided in my previous post.

Ok, thnx!
Robin77 is offline  
post #33286 of 36408 Old 10-31-2018, 06:53 AM
Senior Member
 
Bacon_67's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 243
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 126 Post(s)
Liked: 59
Quote:
Originally Posted by cmdrdredd View Post
I do not understand why people keep asking about this. LG said a long time ago that they changed it because they believe tone mapping is a better method than clipping and they won’t change it. It’s been treated over and over in the thread.

Because they could adjust their tone mapping method so that it doesn't dim scenes that are 100nits or below and track the EOTF more closely on the lower end...
Bacon_67 is offline  
post #33287 of 36408 Old 10-31-2018, 06:56 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 20
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 22 Post(s)
Liked: 12
Quote:
Originally Posted by cathodeRay View Post
cmdrdredd is an expert here. But, the way to make people understand is to provide details and examples.

I game in sdr and hdr with OLED light at 35 to 40 (Destiny 2, Forza, others) in a room with 5 west facing windows and 2 north facing windows, just blinds no curtains, so not a dark space. Destiny is famous for inconsistent HDR implementation (caves, Petra challenges) but otherwise, like Forza, it can be overwhelmingly bright in outside scenes. For SDR I set settings with proper contrast and brightness slides and clearly see the full range, for HDR I use RTINGS' settings (which are just standard HDR settings BTW).

I've never seen any pictures or YT videos of "too dark" games. The video you linked too is for an 8 series not a 7 and 8's are brighter than 7's (this is a 7 thread BTW). I watched the last 5 minutes of the video and they said nothing about "too dark" gaming modes.

Sorry this video was the wrong.

This explains it technically:
youtu.be/cU1f2nHRLus

watch from 12:47 minutes


I'm sure this fact most people didn't know by now....
Robin77 is offline  
post #33288 of 36408 Old 10-31-2018, 06:56 AM
AVS Forum Addicted Member
Industry Insider
 
Cleveland Plasma's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
Posts: 24,538
Mentioned: 81 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6668 Post(s)
Liked: 6656
Quote:
Originally Posted by dpstrand View Post
I got a used 65C7P recently and I am very happy with it except for one thing. There are several bunches of spots that appear to be behind the front panel glass (is it glass?)
Quote:
Originally Posted by dpstrand View Post
Oh good to know, I was wondering if it was glass. I was debating trying something more abrasive to remove the spots but if it is plastic this might end up making it worse! Still crossing fingers that somebody here has dealt with an issue like this before and can give me some pointers.
I would call LG and let them look at it, if you damage the TV they will not help most likely. 1 (800) 243-0000
Cleveland Plasma is offline  
post #33289 of 36408 Old 10-31-2018, 06:58 AM
Advanced Member
 
robertw11's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 582
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 143 Post(s)
Liked: 42
Maybe game devs should implement better HDR in their games, and provide hdr settings to adjust in game. Red Dead Redemption 2 is a game that hdr is totally botched vs assassin's Creed Odyssey that is done well.
cmdrdredd likes this.
robertw11 is offline  
post #33290 of 36408 Old 10-31-2018, 07:10 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 20
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 22 Post(s)
Liked: 12



THAT's the only reason why HDR gamemode is broken just for clarification.
Details see in video
from minute 12
Robin77 is offline  
post #33291 of 36408 Old 10-31-2018, 08:03 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
nathan_h's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 9,329
Mentioned: 43 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2726 Post(s)
Liked: 1961
That's interesting. Be really cool if the 7 series acted like the 8 series.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Untitled 10.jpg
Views:	152
Size:	129.2 KB
ID:	2476038  
claw and noobtv like this.
nathan_h is offline  
post #33292 of 36408 Old 10-31-2018, 08:46 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 399
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 308 Post(s)
Liked: 170
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robin77 View Post


In another Forum someone wrote:
So I took my chances and updated to the beta 05.80.04 firmware for my lg 2017 oled. Pc mode for hdr has been fixed. So it's totally viable as a permanent setting in all cases. But output must be yuv420 at the most. If you set to yuv422 there will be lots of banding/posterisation in hdr
What can you say about that?
If you send properly-dithered 8-bit RGB, HDR in PC mode should look fine. Anything greater than 8-bit will result in banding.
Justin Fletcher likes this.

Last edited by iSeries; 10-31-2018 at 09:30 AM.
iSeries is online now  
post #33293 of 36408 Old 10-31-2018, 09:19 AM
Advanced Member
 
kensingtonwick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 594
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 396 Post(s)
Liked: 78
Quote:
Originally Posted by Valkyre View Post
No i am watching Ozark but i have noticed it hapening with ohter series as well. Is there a way to disable this? It super annoying and tbh i do not understand how a dark scene can cause a problem to the TV.

Also why doesnt this happen when playing videogames? I only notice this with netflix. Is it a netflix thing?


Ozark has a low APL (average picture level) so it wasn’t meant to be bright and vibrant. Not a tv issue. Just the way the show was intended to look. Season 2 was awesome btw!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
kensingtonwick is offline  
post #33294 of 36408 Old 10-31-2018, 09:21 AM
Senior Member
 
onaga's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 322
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 226 Post(s)
Liked: 72
For the last year and a half I've been using the recommendation here for people who will never be able to calibrate the TV (use dark or technicolor isf and adjust the light oled and go)

this way you get the maximum that the uncalibrated oled can give, my problem is that I could never get used to this image of the oled, dark its very dark,why its so damn dark? Whenever I watch a movie I say ... ****, you can not see anything!

Have I been a year with a defective panel? the truth is I'm thinking about selling the oled and letting this nightmare end, the ocd its killing me
onaga is offline  
post #33295 of 36408 Old 10-31-2018, 09:32 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 399
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 308 Post(s)
Liked: 170
Quote:
Originally Posted by onaga View Post
For the last year and a half I've been using the recommendation here for people who will never be able to calibrate the TV (use dark or technicolor isf and adjust the light oled and go)

this way you get the maximum that the uncalibrated oled can give, my problem is that I could never get used to this image of the oled, dark its very dark,why its so damn dark? Whenever I watch a movie I say ... ****, you can not see anything!

Have I been a year with a defective panel? the truth is I'm thinking about selling the oled and letting this nightmare end, the ocd its killing me
When you say very dark, do you mean SDR or HDR?
iSeries is online now  
post #33296 of 36408 Old 10-31-2018, 09:38 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
nathan_h's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 9,329
Mentioned: 43 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2726 Post(s)
Liked: 1961
Quote:
Originally Posted by kensingtonwick View Post
Ozark has a low APL (average picture level) so it wasn’t meant to be bright and vibrant. Not a tv issue. Just the way the show was intended to look. Season 2 was awesome btw!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
To be fair to the OP, I noticed in some dark scenes in Ozark (watching DV, from ATV4k) that brightness levels fluctuated without anything in the scene changing -- but usually the other way: It would start our VERY DARK and after a minute, get brighter (often just a short time before the scene closed).
nathan_h is offline  
post #33297 of 36408 Old 10-31-2018, 10:12 AM
kig
Newbie
 
kig's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Brazil
Posts: 14
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by iSeries View Post
If you send properly-dithered 8-bit RGB, HDR in PC mode should look fine. Anything greater than 8-bit will result in banding.



Spiderman seems a lot better in PC HDR Standard (2.2 gamma, W45, color 55, black level LOW) than compared to HDR GAME MODE or technicolor with Active HDR..

PS4 pro YUV420 , black level LIMITED..
kig is offline  
post #33298 of 36408 Old 10-31-2018, 11:26 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 470
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 313 Post(s)
Liked: 233
Quote:
Originally Posted by Valkyre View Post
No i am watching Ozark but i have noticed it hapening with ohter series as well. Is there a way to disable this? It super annoying and tbh i do not understand how a dark scene can cause a problem to the TV.

Also why doesnt this happen when playing videogames? I only notice this with netflix. Is it a netflix thing?
Do you have dynamic contrast set to low? I think I'm it's the tone mapping at work.

Like Ozark isn't dark enough, right?
barth2 is offline  
post #33299 of 36408 Old 10-31-2018, 06:08 PM
AVS Forum Addicted Member
 
Ph8te's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 19,316
Mentioned: 31 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6521 Post(s)
Liked: 6236
Quote:
Originally Posted by nathan_h View Post
To be fair to the OP, I noticed in some dark scenes in Ozark (watching DV, from ATV4k) that brightness levels fluctuated without anything in the scene changing -- but usually the other way: It would start our VERY DARK and after a minute, get brighter (often just a short time before the scene closed).


Might be a big with external sources. I’ve seen similar via ATV4K, but never marked down times to test the internal NetFlix app for comparison.
Ph8te is offline  
post #33300 of 36408 Old 10-31-2018, 06:41 PM
Senior Member
 
onaga's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 322
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 226 Post(s)
Liked: 72
Quote:
Originally Posted by iSeries View Post
When you say very dark, do you mean SDR or HDR?
mostly SDR, most HDR looks ok to me, mostly to the washed out side.
onaga is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply OLED Technology and Flat Panels General

Tags
#lgoled55c7p #hdr #oled #xboxonex #movies , 2017 , atmos , audio out , burn in , calibration , contrast , dolby 5.1 , dolby vision , Emotiva , Gaming , hdmi arc , hdr , lg b7 , lg b7p , lg c7 , lg e7 , lg oled , lg oled 65b7p , mainboard , mount , Netflix , oled , oled c7 , oled55c7p , Onkyo , optical digital output , problem , settings , sj9 , sk10y , surround , truehd , xbox one x

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off