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does the 2017 B7 pass all of the current audio formats over ARC?

i.e. if i am watching content through the LG apps will it pass the atmos or other encoded audio to my receiver for proper processing?

would i be better off passing it through my chromecast ultra to the receiver and the display out to the tv?


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EDIT: I didn’t understand your question at first. I think jumping through all those hoops is unnecessary.

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does the 2017 B7 pass all of the current audio formats over ARC?

i.e. if i am watching content through the LG apps will it pass the atmos or other encoded audio to my receiver for proper processing?

would i be better off passing it through my chromecast ultra to the receiver and the display out to the tv?


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No.

Yes.
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2017 LG C7-B7 Owners' Thread (No Price Talk)

what about the 2018 C8


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I don't think so. That'd be an eARC (enhanced Audio Return Channel) function. I believe that is not available now, and that LG hasn't promised a firmware update to enable it. (I have read that no such update will ever be available for the 2017 models.) Because eARC allows a much higher bit rate than ARC, it requires compatible hardware.

eARC would also be of no use unless you have a receiver that supports it. I have read that some of the 2017 Denon models will receive a firmware update that enables eARC.
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ok so what is able to be passed over ARC?

dts-x?


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ok so what is able to be passed over ARC?

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I'll let others answer provide the details of the limits of ARC. Or, I suggest a web search.

I believe that the 2017 models can pass Atmos in a DD+ (Dolby Digital Plus) wrapper over ARC. It's a lossy (compressed) version, but I doubt that I could hear the difference. So far, I have not used ARC with my B7. I don't recall whether DTS:X can be also passed. I'm not sure whether Dolby Labs would like that; I think that they have been modifying their licensing to prohibit some combining of DTS features with Dolby data. Whether they'd allow Dolby features to be applied to DTS data, I don't know.

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Lossy formats only (this includes ATMOS DD+ variant). There are no online services that offer lossless format streaming. If you want eARC to use your TV as a switch instead of an AVR or soundbar than you’ll need to get the 2019 set.
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so none of the streaming services will stream lossless audio? so ill have the same problem streaming through my chromecast to the receiver?

is there a good site that aggregates all of this info that i can go read?


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so none of the streaming services will stream lossless audio? so ill have the same problem streaming through my chromecast to the receiver?

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No, none of them. DD+ is the best you will get.
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No, none of them. DD+ is the best you will get.
While none of them do lossless many of them do Dolby ATMOS (Vudu and Amazon Prime are two examples). I have rented/watched many movies in 4k HDR with ATMOS sound on Vudu...it is rather good and a pretty good deal for $5.99. I have also purchased several movies with the digital code and it did unlock the 4k HDR with ATMOS version on Vudu.

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While none of them do lossless many of them do Dolby ATMOS (Vudu and Amazon Prime are two examples). I have rented/watched many movies in 4k HDR with ATMOS sound on Vudu...it is rather good and a pretty good deal for $5.99. I have also purchased several movies with the digital code and it did unlock the 4k HDR with ATMOS version on Vudu.


Correct, this is the lossy (DD+) variant that we brought up earlier to the users question
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Correct, this is the lossy (DD+) variant that we brought up earlier to the users question
No worries. Just trying to provide clarity for those that aren't following so closely. I know you understand, but you would be surprised how many people see the statement - they only do DD+ - and think that means they don't do ATMOS.
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No worries. Just trying to provide clarity for those that aren't following so closely. I know you understand, but you would be surprised how many people see the statement - they only do DD+ - and think that means they don't do ATMOS.


being naive to the situation you could put me in that camp...

after reading that the streaming services only do DD+ i figured it was pretty bleak for the average user.. but it sounds like it’s not quite that bad and for someone like me possibly even undetectable in difference


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Does anyone have any good settings for game mode with a Ps4 Pro? Both for sdr and hdr.
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IMHO, when you look at the settings and realize just how minimal they are - ( except for the Dolby Vision 20 point ) - it really is a testament to how great the LG OLED's perform out-of-the-box. Frankly, these TV's make me look good. To set your mind at ease, these settings are up to date. Don't let the original posting date throw you off, as I've continually revised them as necessary.

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SoT...in your opinion, if one is running the ATV4k and since it defaults to Dolby Vision, one should try your settings for DV only. If we don't want to us your DV file, the ONLY setting changed from default are the slight bump in OLED light and slight reduction in sharpness. Nothing else changed correct?

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Use the ones for the Xbox some pages back. Most settings on the PS4 have a similar name and should be set to the same setting as the Xbox.
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IMHO, when you look at the settings and realize just how minimal they are - ( except for the Dolby Vision 20 point ) - it really is a testament to how great the LG OLED's perform out-of-the-box. Frankly, these TV's make me look good. To set your mind at ease, these settings are up to date. Don't let the original posting date throw you off, as I've continually revised them as necessary.

Give them a try and let me know. [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif[/IMG]
SoT...in your opinion, if one is running the ATV4k and since it defaults to Dolby Vision, one should try your settings for DV only. If we don't want to us your DV file, the ONLY setting changed from default are the slight bump in OLED light and slight reduction in sharpness. Nothing else changed correct?

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Put your Apple TV to output in 4K SDR and enable Match Dynamic Range and frame rate.

This way it’s only in HDR mode for HDR content. Dolby Vision for Dolby Vision content..etc.
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SoT...in your opinion, if one is running the ATV4k and since it defaults to Dolby Vision, one should try your settings for DV only. If we don't want to us your DV file, the ONLY setting changed from default are the slight bump in OLED light and slight reduction in sharpness. Nothing else changed correct?

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You will want to use all of the settings for all of the dynamic ranges because the AppleTV is more than just Dolby Vision. You should turn ON Frame Rate and Dynamic Range Matching under the Video settings. Set the Home screen to 4K Dolby Vision. There is a ton of content for SDR such as HBOGO. Prime is predominately HDR10. Then there's VUDU, iTunes, and Netflix which has lots of Dolby Vision content.

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C7, Netflix, not always the claimed HDR

Hello folks

Got my C7 last year - and all generally pretty splendid so far!

But I just watched 'Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon - The Sword of Destiny' on the built in Netflix app and it did not display in the advertised Dolby Vision format.
I have a paid up Premium Netflix account, so I qualify for all the bells and whistles; And the Netflix app is the latest version. And my TV was receiving a strong and stable internet connection of over 60Mbps.
I used the LG mobile app to get some info up on screen and it was playing in UHD (2160), but without any kind of HDR let alone Dolby Vision.

I switched to the Netflix app on my Panasonic 4k Bluray player and straight away the Dolby Vision alert popped up in the top right of the screen and the movie played in its full glory.

Any idea why it would not play in the advertised format through the Netflix app on my lovely LG C7??

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Hello folks

Got my C7 last year - and all generally pretty splendid so far!

But I just watched 'Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon - The Sword of Destiny' on the built in Netflix app and it did not display in the advertised Dolby Vision format.

I have a paid up Premium Netflix account, so I qualify for all the bells and whistles; And the Netflix app is the latest version. And my TV was receiving a strong and stable internet connection of over 60Mbps.

I used the LG mobile app to get some info up on screen and it was playing in UHD (2160), but without any kind of HDR let alone Dolby Vision.

I switched to the Netflix app on my Panasonic 4k Bluray player and straight away the Dolby Vision alert popped up in the top right of the screen and the movie played in its full glory.

Any idea why it would not play in the advertised format through the Netflix app on my lovely LG C7??

Thanks


Appears to be an issue with that title being incorrectly marked as Dolby Vision or playing in that format. I tried it from both my LG app and 4k Fire Stick and didn’t get the Dolby Vision popup on either.

I also clicked on the top left of the LG screen to show the on screen information for that Input and what the signal was for my Fire Stick which is HDMI 2 and it did not show as Dolby Vision there either so its def not Dolby Vision.

Assuming you get the Dolby Vision popup on other titles then you know the issue is with this title and not your setup or subscription.


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Appears to be an issue with that title being incorrectly marked as Dolby Vision or playing in that format. I tried it from both my LG app and 4k Fire Stick and didn’t get the Dolby Vision popup on either.

I also clicked on the top left of the LG screen to show the on screen information for that Input and what the signal was for my Fire Stick which is HDMI 2 and it did not show as Dolby Vision there either so its def not Dolby Vision.

Assuming you get the Dolby Vision popup on other titles then you know the issue is with this title and not your setup or subscription.


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Thanks for getting back to me so quickly T-smith.

This is very mysterious though because, as I said, this title DID play in Dolby Vision when using the Netflix app on my Panasonic Bluray player. So it's not that the title itself is mislabelled Dolby Vision.
Weird!
So, it won't play in Dolby Vision on the LG TV Netflix app, or your Firestick, but it DOES on my Panasonic machine's Netflix app!

What could be going on?
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Thanks for getting back to me so quickly T-smith.



This is very mysterious though because, as I said, this title DID play in Dolby Vision when using the Netflix app on my Panasonic Bluray player. So it's not that the title itself is mislabelled Dolby Vision.

Weird!

So, it won't play in Dolby Vision on the LG TV Netflix app, or your Firestick, but it DOES on my Panasonic machine's Netflix app!



What could be going on?


Does the Panasonic play titles in the different formats like HDR, DV, HD or does it play everything in Dolby Vision if you have that setting for DV set to on?


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No, the Panasonic (DP-UB820 4k player) detects the format of the media and then switches playback to that format.

Baffling!
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No, the Panasonic (DP-UB820 4k player) detects the format of the media and then switches playback to that format.

Baffling!

Actually, although I just wrote this I realise there is a lot of assumption there.
And a bit of googling has revealed that many people with this Panasonic player have noticed that when DV is turned on in the settings then the built in Netflix app does indeed display everything in DV - even the menus!
Thanks for making this suggestion, T-smith, even though I initially dismissed it!

Apparently Panasonic are going to be correcting this in a forthcoming firmware update.

Good to know that my splendid LG is free of blame!

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Hello folks

Got my C7 last year - and all generally pretty splendid so far!

But I just watched 'Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon - The Sword of Destiny' on the built in Netflix app and it did not display in the advertised Dolby Vision format.
I have a paid up Premium Netflix account, so I qualify for all the bells and whistles; And the Netflix app is the latest version. And my TV was receiving a strong and stable internet connection of over 60Mbps.
I used the LG mobile app to get some info up on screen and it was playing in UHD (2160), but without any kind of HDR let alone Dolby Vision.

I switched to the Netflix app on my Panasonic 4k Bluray player and straight away the Dolby Vision alert popped up in the top right of the screen and the movie played in its full glory.

Any idea why it would not play in the advertised format through the Netflix app on my lovely LG C7??

Thanks
I'm not getting DV on this movie with my C8 either. It's a Netflix issue.

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Actually, although I just wrote this I realise there is a lot of assumption there.
And a bit of googling has revealed that many people with this Panasonic player have noticed that when DV is turned on in the settings then the built in Netflix app does indeed display everything in DV - even the menus!
Thanks for making this suggestion, T-smith, even though I initially dismissed it!

Apparently Panasonic are going to be correcting this in a forthcoming firmware update.

Good to know that my splendid LG is free of blame!

Thanks
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