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Do the B7/C7 have any kind of active fan / coil whine / other noise at idle?
I have a Samsung HU9000, and the fan bugs me a lot.
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I just ordered a 65" C7 , they had one in stock and it'll be delivered this week.

It may not be perfect, but it's the best thing available.
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Have you run any automatic wear compensation cycles on the set before taking those pics? Need to run for 4 hours, then turn off the display and wait.

So far, I think I actually prefer the 5% uniformity of your B6. Pretty mild right side 'zipper' vignetting compared to some of the examples posted here.
Yes, I thought that one should run the TV for ~25-40hrs before making any comparisons. I also, any time purchase a TV- DVD player- AVR-- any electronic device. To run it consistently for ?~24hr. The heat and parts merge. If it works for 24hr. we can "hopefully" think it's good unit. What I observed it that people turn on the device ~3-4hrs then Off- Then ~24 hrs later turn it ON~2-4hrs. So the electronic don't get to heat up and stay that way- so see if circuits are working correctly. YMMV
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I just ordered a 65" C7 , they had one in stock and it'll be delivered this week.
It may not be perfect, but it's the best thing available.
That right there is a fact........
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I really wish they could fix the vingetting issues. The 55" didn't seem to suffer as much from this.

This keeps me away from buying this TV and they had an opportunity to fix this for this year's models. Guess they had too many left over panels from last year.
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For owners out of curiousity what are the menu settings in the HDR modes specifically standard, cinema home and cinema?
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Any of you had the opportunity to see and compare the Sony Z9D with the new 2017 LG OLED?

Because a new review just came out comparing them and it found that the 2017 LG OLED had better image processing and scaling than the Sony Z9D and the new Sony A1E OLED.
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The design like how it's built?
Yes looked more like a B6 with a new stand than what i thought it would.
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Can anyone who has a C7 (specifically the 65") tell me how deep the 'bucket' is where the HDMI connectors are ?

I'm trying to pick a wall mounting bracket but I don't know how much distance I need from the wall to fit the HDMI connectors. The LG site doesn't seem to have a schematic or even a decent photo of the back.
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Yes looked more like a B6 with a new stand than what i thought it would.
Ah ok. I have it wall mounted and it looks like every other black slab on a wall.
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Can anyone who has a C7 (specifically the 65") tell me how deep the 'bucket' is where the HDMI connectors are ?

I'm trying to pick a wall mounting bracket but I don't know how much distance I need from the wall to fit the HDMI connectors. The LG site doesn't seem to have a schematic or even a decent photo of the back.
I'll see if I can get you a decent pic. I'm using the Sanus BLL2-B1 which sits pretty flush and I didn't feel like I was putting stress on my HDMI cables.
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Any of you had the opportunity to see and compare the Sony Z9D with the new 2017 LG OLED?

Because a new review just came out comparing them and it found that the 2017 LG OLED had better image processing and scaling than the Sony Z9D and the new Sony A1E OLED.
What review is this?

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I'll see if I can get you a decent pic. I'm using the Sanus BLL2-B1 which sits pretty flush and I didn't feel like I was putting stress on my HDMI cables.
How flush ? I'm looking at a bracket that leaves 1.5cm between the TV and the wall and I'm afraid that may be too flush. There's another option that is about 2.5cm. Do you have straight or angled HDMI connectors ? Could you tell me if the power cable is detachable ?

Reason I'm asking is because I've got a 40mm tube in my wall for hiding the cables but to use that I need to run all the cables before hanging the TV.
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i have an E6. how's the upscaling of 720p/1080i cable content? the forbes review said they've improved their SDR upscaling...so wondering if anyone have experience with both 2016 and 2017 models and has input? it's ashame LG produces a "soft" picture compared to Sony and Samsung upscaling of SDR.
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Was waiting to pull the plug on either B7 or C7, however, think will wait for next years as Xbox Project Scorpio will support HDMI 2.1. Need to future-proof this expensive purchase mainly for gaming.
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Was waiting to pull the plug on either B7 or C7, however, think will wait for next years as Xbox Project Scorpio will support HDMI 2.1. Need to future-proof this expensive purchase mainly for gaming.
yeah holly *** thats big news...
Thats also exactly what I thought
But I cant wait for a new TV, so I might buy a LG B6, then buy a LG B8 in 2018
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HELP !!!

I am completely desperate ! While displaying slides, I just found out that the picture has horizontal black and white lines on different parts of the screen.

I tried to take pictures, I don't know if you can see those horizontal lines.

The exterior aspect of the screen is perfect. It is not as if the screen was damaged.

I don't know what to do. My tv is 10 days old.
Has anyone see this before ??





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How flush ? I'm looking at a bracket that leaves 1.5cm between the TV and the wall and I'm afraid that may be too flush. There's another option that is about 2.5cm. Do you have straight or angled HDMI connectors ? Could you tell me if the power cable is detachable ?

Reason I'm asking is because I've got a 40mm tube in my wall for hiding the cables but to use that I need to run all the cables before hanging the TV.
Wow 1.5cm. No mine is closer to 1.5 inches. I have straight HDMI cables. The power cable cable doesn't appear to detachable. Their is a small panel on the back of the tv that the power cable feeds into that you can unscrew. Not sure if you remove that panel if you could detach the power cable.
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I am so relieved !!! I did a manual compensation cycle for one hour. And the horizontal lines have disappeared
I am so happy !
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And another (yeah I broke down and have checked the torture slides) with me enhancing it to make it show up. Looks nothing like this in real life.

The bands are not noticeable in regular content and have diminished a lot from day one.
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I hear you. I waited a long time to jump. I don't drop thousands on TVs very often and when that creeps up I have some real buyers remorse. I thought maybe I'd be one of the lucky ones (if they even exist) with this year's model but that didn't happen. Too bad because when the TV shines. It can be quite impressive, but no matter how good it is there will always be that moment when it reminds me that OLED isn't quite ready.

I wish reviewers put more of this into their reviews. Right now the Sony is beginning to get heaps of praise but from what I've seen with the owner's thread the same issue is there. I don't care how awesome it is, when the right image is on screen you will see all that nasty stuff and at that point all the other good things it does goes down the drain for me.

I'm probably being hypercritical but at this price point I think I earned the right.
How did you get from when you seem to be rather content to where you are now? When the right image is on screen you're going to see some real nasty stuff on a LCD.

I guess it comes down to putting up with near black uniformity issues a few seconds here and there in exchange for the best overall PQ on a consumer display.

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Excitement to getting some real time with a few movies? Jumping the gun?

And yes, I'm learning to take the very good with the bad.

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I hear you. I waited a long time to jump. I don't drop thousands on TVs very often and when that creeps up I have some real buyers remorse. I thought maybe I'd be one of the lucky ones (if they even exist) with this year's model but that didn't happen. Too bad because when the TV shines. It can be quite impressive, but no matter how good it is there will always be that moment when it reminds me that OLED isn't quite ready.

I wish reviewers put more of this into their reviews. Right now the Sony is beginning to get heaps of praise but from what I've seen with the owner's thread the same issue is there. I don't care how awesome it is, when the right image is on screen you will see all that nasty stuff and at that point all the other good things it does goes down the drain for me.

I'm probably being hypercritical but at this price point I think I earned the right.
Hi Vid thanks for reply-

But you are staying with C7? I really want this C7 to be final but there's some areas that bother me.
No need to try different model like G7 for example because LG all have same hardware and picture this year. I even saw them all in person.
Maybe sounds silly but I want my first OLED to be LG to say thanks you for bringing us this fabulous tech!

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Hi Vid thanks for reply-

But you are staying with C7? I really want this C7 to be final but there's some areas that bother me.
No need to try different model like G7 for example because LG all have same hardware and picture this year. I even saw them all in person.
Maybe sounds silly but I want my first OLED to be LG to say thanks you for bringing us this fabulous tech!

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Hi Simon,

Yeah I'm keeping the C7. It really is an awesome TV with some unfortunate minor issues that show up now and then. That's what makes it a bummer. It's too bad some of this can't be calibrated out or lessened like the vignetting.

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An update.

I ran a few forced compensation cycles because the light band I have in the middle-right (3rd quarter) of my screen was noticeable across a good amount of real content. After 2 forced compensation cycles, not much happened. On the 3rd, there was a major improvement across the board in uniformity (third time's the charm?). It is now very difficult to spot even when looking for it in difficult scenes, and in most scenes it has disappeared. Yes, the first thing I did was to check that the black levels had not changed, using a couple test scenes that I use for consistency control. I did not need to make any adjustments, everything appears the same, and I also confirmed that Gamma and Black Level settings are still the same as well.

I will add that, before I did any of the above 3 forced compensations, an automatic compensation cycle (the one every 4 hours) caused my brightness to shoot through the roof. I had to drop it 16 points to get it back to the correct level. No idea what happened here. My brightness is now at 41 - not a typo - 41.

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I'm so close to pulling the trigger on a 65C7 but the uniformity issues worry me. I'm coming from a plasma and I'm worried it will be very noticeable for me. I can't stand to watch an LCD for example due to the uneven backlights.

Does it only show up on dark sections or is the issue also present when it's brighter ? Does it cause DSE ?

It's a lot of cash to drop on a TV which would be fine if there weren't any big issues but this scares me a little.
Look at the photos here and take the mental average. Decide if it's acceptable for you. No one can tell you that; as you see VidPro is unhappy but others may not be. You can see photos of mine soon.

I've never noticed DSE or vignetting on mine in a pretty good variety of content so far. I cannot imagine spotting those kinds of issues in content, but the eye is more sensitive to the abrupt transitions brought on by banding non-uniformities.

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Do the B7/C7 have any kind of active fan / coil whine / other noise at idle?
I have a Samsung HU9000, and the fan bugs me a lot.
It is completely silent, on or off. Coil whine is extremely annoying but I have only ever gotten that from a graphics card.

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Can anyone who has a C7 (specifically the 65") tell me how deep the 'bucket' is where the HDMI connectors are ?
About 1 inch. I took some photos but AVS is not letting me upload. 3 connectors go parallel to the wall; one goes out at the wall. The HDMI ARC port is one of the parallel ones.

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Was waiting to pull the plug on either B7 or C7, however, think will wait for next years as Xbox Project Scorpio will support HDMI 2.1. Need to future-proof this expensive purchase mainly for gaming.
I can understand waiting for VRR and Dynamic HDR.

But it does need to be said that some people get into this mode of thinking "its stupid to buy now, next year there will be <insert feature>". My brother is famous for this. You could make that argument for any year of the last two decades, and if you did, you'd have spent those two decades playing games on the original Nintendo. At some point you simply have to pull the trigger.

Maybe HDMI will announce HDMI 2.2 in early 2018 (at which point LG will probably have a nice visit at HDMI HQ and slap them upside the head).

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I am so relieved !!! I did a manual compensation cycle for one hour. And the horizontal lines have disappeared
I am so happy !
Yep that's what I was going to suggest. There does appear to be multiple reports of people seeing large scale improvements from manual compensation cycles (HDTVTest also noted this). I had to run mine several times though before it did anything.

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That's interesting...maybe I'll push through some successive manual comp. cycles on my 2016 model (it can't hurt, or so they say ) that debuted in October of the same year.
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Look at the photos here and take the mental average. Decide if it's acceptable for you. No one can tell you that; as you see VidPro is unhappy but others may not be. You can see photos of mine soon.
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Anyone notice how dim HDR Game mode is on the 2017 OLEDS? What the heaping heck?
The only way to combat this without introducing black lift and washout is to really crank the in-game brightness...
LG also locks the gamma to medium in this mode.

Anyone have suggestions? Anything other than Game mode has input lag i can't tolerate.
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Anyone notice how dim HDR Game mode is on the 2017 OLEDS? What the heaping heck?
The only way to combat this without introducing black lift and washout is to really crank the in-game brightness...
LG also locks the gamma to medium in this mode.

Anyone have suggestions? Anything other than Game mode has input lag i can't tolerate.
Intresting is it Perhaps to try to prevent ir?
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Anyone notice how dim HDR Game mode is on the 2017 OLEDS? What the heaping heck?
The only way to combat this without introducing black lift and washout is to really crank the in-game brightness...
LG also locks the gamma to medium in this mode.

Anyone have suggestions? Anything other than Game mode has input lag i can't tolerate.
I have to use Dynamic contrast on medium to match the picture outside of game mode, spent a good 30 minutes matching settings and the big difference in being able to get the same picture was dynamic contrast on medium. Its basically identical
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