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Anyone?. LG website doesn't say.
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For USA owners, is this software version from UK released in the USA yet?

https://youtu.be/ZCr4v6yKt5I

The difference on black compression pixelation seems impressive. This UK version ends in .10 though.
Yes, they were released at the same time. 04.70.10 is for the UK, and 04.70.07 is for North America, and they are identical
Cool thanks. But this does have dim hdr game mode?
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Just throw it in Vivid mode and set the slide speed to fast.

Just picked up my 65 B7P, hope to fire it up tomorrow.

Are the slides pre-loaded from the factory?


Is there a FAQ that would help me out for this break-in period?


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Assistance needed:

Just bought the C7P last week and I am absolutely blown away. This replaced my old Pioneer Elite Kuro!

My only complaint is watching TV via antenna or streaming with the Roku I notice the transitions between people, objects and camera moving is slightly 'jumpy'. I believe this is described as "judder" in this thread but would like further clarification. Does anyone have recommendations on how to correct this or the correct terminology if this is not judder?

Thank you for your time.
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Is there a way to hide inputs on the C7P that I don't use? Like everything but HDMI1/HDMI2. I know on my Marantz 8802a I can hide/show inputs for selecting. Thanks
I've also got an 8802a, and my 65C7P gets delivered Monday. Have you compared upscaling through the Marantz vs passthrough and letting the C7 upscale?
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Hello Everyone, anyone can help with the film grain issue... i was watching batman vs superman 4k uhd bluray on my oppo203 connected straight to my 65E7 and the film grain at the beginning was unbearable in HDR, tried several HDR picture modes and film grain was on all of them. Especially at the beginning of the movie in the desert when there is wind and the sand is blowing and on their faces. It's just too much.

What to do to get rid of that film grain?

What to tweak in the Oppo or the TV, etc...?


For me, I found that for HDR movies with expected film grain, the grain seemed very exaggerated by the TV’s Dynamic Contrast, making it more like swarming gnats or crawling dots. Though general recommendation here is to use Dynamic Contrast on Low for HDR, I needed to turn it off, at least for HDR movies with expected film grain. Film grain does not go away at all (nor would I want it to), but it at least ‘settles down’ and doesn’t crawl around nearly as much. I also have the oppo 203 going into 65B7 in my case. That’s my experience anyway. YMMV.
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I've done some research before I'll pull the trigger on a B7 65" and it seems the "A" model doesn't support Dolby Atmos, while the "P" does. I do have a new Denon receiver which does support Dolby Atmos, will this missing feature affect anything, like streaming Netflix and sending the Atmos audio to my receiver via ARC? Or does this only affect the internal speakers?
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Sorry to ask again but ARC is new to me, I am still on 03.50.90 firmware. If I upgrade to the latest firmware will I get multi channel over ARC instead of just 2 channel?

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Just bought the C7P last week and I am absolutely blown away. This replaced my old Pioneer Elite Kuro!

My only complaint is watching TV via antenna or streaming with the Roku I notice the transitions between people, objects and camera moving is slightly 'jumpy'. I believe this is described as "judder" in this thread but would like further clarification. Does anyone have recommendations on how to correct this or the correct terminology if this is not judder?

Thank you for your time.
Have a read here - http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/...comparison_821

You'll want to enable Real Cinema and turn TrueMotion to "User" - then set each slider (in TrueMotion - User) to "0" . These two settings remove judder and account for 24p in standard def content. Real Cinema should be enough on its own.

More settings found here: http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/...-oled/settings (B7A and C7P panels are identical, so the settings apply. But they have a C7P review/settings page, too. I just like the B7A one better because it's a bit more modern/recent).

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I had changed settings on the HDMI port I was using but NOT on the internal DV feed from Netflix. With the LG netflix app running I went into settings and saw they were all default. I've not watched much since seeing this but made the appropriate changes and the results seem significantly better.

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Indeed! I'm unused to changing settings on a TV that has useful internal apps. I had changed the settings for only 1 HDMI input and NOT the digital video output of the native LG apps. Upon realizing this I made more setting changes for the DV input and the SOE it either gone now or significantly better. I flaunt my ignorance to learn! Many thanks.


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Just a thought but thinking the source... Perhaps an external is controlling the motion. or, the particular Input isn't turned off as you think. All just a guess though on my end.


 

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I've done some research before I'll pull the trigger on a B7 65" and it seems the "A" model doesn't support Dolby Atmos, while the "P" does. I do have a new Denon receiver which does support Dolby Atmos, will this missing feature affect anything, like streaming Netflix and sending the Atmos audio to my receiver via ARC? Or does this only affect the internal speakers?
This feature is only for internal decoding of Atmos to play through internal speakers which is useless anyway. B7A will still send Atmos/Dolby Digital Plus over ARC to your AVR.
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This feature is only for internal decoding of Atmos to play through internal speakers which is useless anyway. B7A will still send Atmos/Dolby Digital Plus over ARC to your AVR.
Oh thanks, that's what I thought. Internal speakers are so useless in this day and age.
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Is there a way to hide inputs on the C7P that I don't use? Like everything but HDMI1/HDMI2. I know on my Marantz 8802a I can hide/show inputs for selecting. Thanks


I think you can yes. Press and hold the input button on the remote for the config screen.

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To follow up with this, extended gamut I've found does exactly that, so when lowering color to 46 it pretty much 'levels' out R, G and B luminance respectively to similar levels. Perhaps your eyes are expecting more punchy color?
There is actually a good reason to use Enhanced and lower the color when you have an under saturated situation. Why? because for example, the LG in HDR mode especially is slightly under saturated. This is why color is set to 55 by default in HDR, to try and raise the saturation. You can go into the CMS and increase the saturation but you risk getting artifacts because you are "adding" vs "subtracting". It's always better to reduce the values because you are subtracting from what's already there vs adding and relying on the color decoder to make up the addition.

I know it's confusing but I hope you understand the concept.

But I agree, I always leave the HDR CMS at default until the time comes where LG fixes it. Last year it worked fine, this year it's kind of broken in HDR. In SDR it works fine. From what I've been told, it's a characteristic of these OLED panels. Nothing is perfect. Maybe next year the panels will be better.

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Sorry to ask again but ARC is new to me, I am still on 03.50.90 firmware. If I upgrade to the latest firmware will I get multi channel over ARC instead of just 2 channel?
You should be able to get up to DD+ multichannel on your firmware right now, and that doesn't change with the new firmware. ARC can be a bit fussy to setup depending on your components.
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I used to think this as well, but if you bring it up, there's a very vocal cohort that claims there are plenty of screens without yellow banding.

Does anyone know what exactly about the film is causing the yellowing? This used to be a problem on HTC phones where the issue was optical glue that wasn't curing properly and could be entirely fixed with some UV light exposure. Anyone wanna try shining some UV light on their OLED and see if it helps with the yellowing?
You know what.. call me crazy, but I decided to try the trick that used to fix similar issue with HTC phones that you mentioned above... and it actually worked. I no longer see the very pronounced yellow tint on the left side.. I keep trying to look for it in various content, but can't really see it any longer.. maybe just a hint (or maybe my eyes playing tricks on me), but it's no longer visible on black and white or solid light color screens. Basically, I bought a cheap UV flashlight on Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1), and use it for about 15 min by slowly moving back and forth around the left side of the screen, holding it very close to the glass. I'm not sure if it would work for anyone else, but if someone has the yellow tint issue and have UV light in the house, maybe it's worth a try.
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You should be able to get up to DD+ multichannel on your firmware right now, and that doesn't change with the new firmware. ARC can be a bit fussy to setup depending on your components.
Is it a setting in the PS4 or the TV? I am getting multichannel from the tv on the streaming apps over ARC.

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OK. Not going to argue with D-Nice. He's always right. I will update my post. Thank you for catching that! Really appreciated.
I used your calibration settings on my 65B7P and I am very happy with the results. I'll be keeping these setting until i find something "better". To be honest the Rting B7A calibration settings looked good too. The Rtings C7 settings just didn't look right on my set. Just my experience. Much appreciated!
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Whats the deal with the game mode on this TV now? Is it still low input lag around 22 ms? Is the game mode PQ bad now?
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Whats the deal with the game mode on this TV now? Is it still low input lag around 22 ms? Is the game mode PQ bad now?


Yes. You can reduce the input lag in Game mode, but it is too dark in HDR. Also, you can reduce the input lag by changing the icon of the HDMI input. It is not a aesthetic thing, changing the icon to PC or Videogame console, it reduces the input lag (although disable some thing like real cinema)

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LG OLED 65? C7 Calibration ( OLED65C7P ) FW: 04.70.07 - REV. 2.5 - NOV. 18 17 EDIT: For SDR, Edge Enhancement is now Off. Turn On for HDR ONLY!

Both B7 and C7 models should benefit from these settings. This is assuming that your panel?s performance / specs are fairly close to mine. Variances in panels may yield different results. For most of us, it should be very close. If the variance is less than 3%, you will enjoy an awesome SDR and HDR picture.

These are actual meter based calibration settings ( vs. disc based ) using a Spectracal C6 meter, Murideo 6G pattern generator, and CalMan for Biz 2017.

NOTES: As with all calibrations, getting the 2 point white balance as close to perfect meant that the 20 point needed only the 100% IRE adjustment for reference white. All delta errors were under 2% and many were < 1%. That?s a testament as to how great these LG OLED TV?s are. This in turn paves the way for super accurate colors and smooth tracking through each color percentage reference points.
You should enjoy superb looking natural flesh tones and a nice color contrast and pop even with SDR content. Black levels are also excellent which one should expect from an OLED.

DOLBY VISION: The most recent version of CalMan includes two DV workflows. The second ?DV custom" workflow allows the calibrator to create a special file just for 2017 LG OLED?s, which is saved to a thumb drive and then loaded into the TV. Spectracal, Dolby, and LG worked very closely together to create this awesome workflow. It?s actually faster and easier to go through than an SDR calibration.
To install, you start out by playing DV content on the TV, and set the picture mode to "Cinema ( User )?. Next, plug in the thumb drive with the special file into the USB port on the side. The TV will prompt you and ask if you would like to install the file. Answer "Yes" and less than a second later ( it's a very small < 1K ) the file is loaded. And you are done. Eject the thumb drive and enjoy.

The DV ?custom? workflow focuses on greyscale and once the 2 point and 20 point have been adjusted, Calman then creates the file ( plain text ) and the calibration session is complete. There are no other adjustments, and the CMS is left untouched. The White Balance settings will remain zero?d out after loading the file, but you will notice a difference in the PQ. If you are interested in taking a closer look at this file, you should private message me with an email address so I can send to you. WARNING: At this point there does not appear to be a way to reverse this process. So, if you are not happy with the PQ after loading the file . . . . sorry. However, I am seeing a rather dramatic improvement in contrast and black levels. In many ways it is actually brighter, although the OLED light is set to only 50. Flesh tones and colors are natural. Good pop without exaggeration.

[ A note about the CMS ( Color Management System ) adjustments. I have a calibration partner who is an LG OLED guru and provided me with lots of guidance with the below calibration settings. He has done over 3,000 calibrations over the years. He has calibrated dozens of 2017 LG OLEDS and adjusted the CMS as necessary with zero issues or artifacts to report. We have never had to return to a customer site to zero out the CMS. We use several reference UHD Blu-ray discs to test for these things. The 2016 LG OLED are a different story altogether, but LG has rectified the problem with the 2017 models. So, as they say: ?It?s safe to go back into the water.? ]

Rev. 2.5 - Updated screenshots attached.

SDR Settings
SDR Picture Mode: ?ISF Expert (Dark Room)? Picture Mode
Energy Saving: Off

BASIC SETTINGS:
OLED LIGHT: 48
Contrast: 85
Brightness: 50
H Sharpness: 0
V Sharpness: 0
Color: 50
Tint: 0

EXPERT CONTROLS
Dynamic Contrast: Off
Super Resolution: Off
Color Gamut: Auto
Edge Enhancer: Off ( HDR only )
Color Filter: Off
Gamma: 2.2 ( If you have 100% lighting control in the room and can get it really dark, then try BT.1886 or 2.4 )

WHITE BALANCE
Color Temperature: Warm2
Method: 2 Points
High - R: -1, G: -6, B: -4
Low - R: -3, G: -3, B: -3

Method: 20 Points
100 IRE, Target Luminance: 150, R: -7, G: 0, B: 0
90 IRE, R: -3, G: 0, B: 0

COLOR MANAGEMENT SYSTEM
RED - Sat: 6, Tint: 6, Lum: 0
GREEN - Sat: 4, Tint: -2, Lum: 3
BLUE - Sat: 2, Tint: 4, Lum: 4
CYAN - Sat: 3, Tint: 6, Lum: 3
MAGENTA - Sat: 1, Tint: 6, Lum: -2
YELLOW - Sat: 4, Tint: -5, Lum: 2

PICTURE OPTIONS
Noise Reduction : Off
MPEG Noise Reduction: Off
Black Level: Low
Real Cinema: On ( Default - greyed out )
Motion Eye Care: Off
TrueMotion: Off

SDR - DARK room settings to try . . .
Brightness: 50
Dynamic Contrast : Off
Gamma: BT.1886

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HDR-10 Settings ( NOTE: In order to make settings changes to HDR-10 you must be playing HDR-10 content in order to trigger the TV into HDR mode. )
HDR Picture Mode: Cinema (User)
Customize
OLED LIGHT: 100
Contrast: 100
Brightness: 50
Sharpness: 0
Color: 55
Tint: 0

EXPERT CONTROLS
Dynamic Contrast: Low ( LG calibration guide recommended setting )
Super Resolution: Off
Color Gamut: Auto
Edge Enhancer: On ( LG calibration guide recommended setting )
Color Filter: Off
Gamma: 2.2

WHITE BALANCE
Color Temperature: Warm2
Method - 2 Points
High: R: 0, G: -6, B: -1
Low: R: 2, G: 0, B: -2

20 Points Code
Code Value < 1023 ( 100% )
R: 0, G: -8, B: -3
All other values and levels leave at zero

COLOR MANAGEMENT SYSTEM ( NOTE: With the 2017 or ?7? series LG OLEDS, issue with CMS adjustments causing artifacts have been resolved. )
RED - Sat: -16, Tint: 0, Lum: 8
GREEN - Sat: -22, Tint: -26, Lum: 4
BLUE - Sat: -5, Tint: 1, Lum: 0
CYAN - Sat: -7, Tint: 24, Lum: 2
MAGENTA - Sat: -16, Tint: 0, Lum: 3
YELLOW - Sat: 0, Tint: 5, Lum: 16

Enjoy. Feedback is welcome.
Thanks for the update.
What is your built date? first 3 numbers of your serial number (can also be looked up in the TV settings)
I'm gonna test the SDR settings on my C7 build 705 ?
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I feel the same way. Apparently some studios put that grain in there on purpose. I don't think you can get rid of it without adversely affecting IQ.
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For me, I found that for HDR movies with expected film grain, the grain seemed very exaggerated by the TV’s Dynamic Contrast, making it more like swarming gnats or crawling dots. Though general recommendation here is to use Dynamic Contrast on Low for HDR, I needed to turn it off, at least for HDR movies with expected film grain. Film grain does not go away at all (nor would I want it to), but it at least ‘settles down’ and doesn’t crawl around nearly as much. I also have the oppo 203 going into 65B7 in my case. That’s my experience anyway. YMMV.
Thank you Borg and tosa68 for your replies, i see it also on dolby vision when watching netflix from the TVs internal app like in the "death note" for example and it is just not right. Do you know if calibrating hdr and dolby Vision, would that get rid of it?
Also Tosa68, that's exactly what i see, crawling dots, grains of sand, etc... i will try turning off Dynamic Contrast and see how it looks, thanks again... by the way since you have the oppo203 straight to your B7, is it a B7P or B7A?
And are you on the 4.70.07 firmware?
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I've done some research before I'll pull the trigger on a B7 65" and it seems the "A" model doesn't support Dolby Atmos, while the "P" does. I do have a new Denon receiver which does support Dolby Atmos, will this missing feature affect anything, like streaming Netflix and sending the Atmos audio to my receiver via ARC? Or does this only affect the internal speakers?
Internal speakers only.
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Sorry to ask again but ARC is new to me, I am still on 03.50.90 firmware. If I upgrade to the latest firmware will I get multi channel over ARC instead of just 2 channel?
Yes, You will get dolby digital plus though, not dolby true hd.
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Just ordered my 55b7a and should have it in a couple days(got the matching Bluray too for DV)....this is for my bedroom media system.....it's replacing a Samsung 4k but I wanted HDR/DV.....I wish the XB1X had DV but as of now it doesn't.....
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Cool thanks. But this does have dim hdr game mode?
I would like to know this also. I'm still on firmware 03. something and am too nervous to update. Does anybody know if this version has the darker HDR mode? I'm in the UK, with the most up to date firmware being 04.30.10.
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Not sure if this is the right thread for this question but I have an LG 65C7 and noticed quite a bit of stuttering (judder?) when playing movies via ShieldTV and KODI. I have KODI set to 4K/59fps but the problems is there with either "set tv to match refresh rate" or not. I never had issues with the shieldTV and my Panasonic plasma. I disable Truemotion on the LG. It's very annoying for example watching "Blue Planet 2 - Episode 1" there is some very annoying juddering going on. Debug shows nothing. So it must be a tv<>shieldTV issue. For what it's worth, when using the built-in media player, it's smooth as can be.

On another note, I have some 4K HDR rips (for example Planet Earth II) which seem to 'lose' the HDR signal right after start, dropping back to SDR viewing. When using the same file with the built-in app, HDR works fine. If I disable 'sync display to refresh rate' option in KODI, then it works fine but I want the refresh rate to be the same as the video file. Any idea how to fix this? Strange thing is, this does not happen with all HDR files I have, some work fine, some don't.

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I'd like to know some more details on this as well. I'm in the exact scenario as you. (well, except that my Panasonic plasma is still working. ) I also have Frontier (used to be u-verse) IPTV, and we watch plenty of regular TV.

Also play video games for an hour or two each day. Blu-ray movie viewing on the weekends. I'm still relatively on the fence between the B7/C7 and the 930e, and I suspect my months of reading AVS has only made my decision more agonizing.
I am also debating on whether I either:
1.) wait till 2018 hoping for new panels from LG.
2.) hoping for a 2018 Sony A1F (A2E?) with a more reasonable price for at least the 55”
3.) If Sony is continuing the A1E for another year, then that will be my choice.
4.) LGs 2018 processing, banding, and vignetting will be on par with Sony’s (close now from what I have been reading)
5.) Sony x900e or 930e. Which from my understanding the x900e has better motion, but 930e better color and precision black. Viewing angle still sucks tho
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Thank you Borg and tosa68 for your replies, i see it also on dolby vision when watching netflix from the TVs internal app like in the "death note" for example and it is just not right. Do you know if calibrating hdr and dolby Vision, would that get rid of it?

Also Tosa68, that's exactly what i see, crawling dots, grains of sand, etc... i will try turning off Dynamic Contrast and see how it looks, thanks again... by the way since you have the oppo203 straight to your B7, is it a B7P or B7A?

And are you on the 4.70.07 firmware?


I have a B7P, yes on 4.70.07 firmware. The oppo 203 actually goes through my Yamaha A3070 receiver, but video direct through receiver.

I don’t mind film grain, either when it’s because something was filmed, you know, on film, or artificial because of artistic intent. What drove me crazy was the ‘crawling/swarming dots’ that to me seemed to be much worse with HDR and Dynamic Contrast. I did try gobs of other settings combinations (the usual suspects like sharpness, etc, etc), but to me nothing made as much of a difference as Dynamic Contrast. But again, it did not remove any film grain, just made it much less crawly.

For Netflix DV “film” grain, it is what it is since with DV I don’t use Dynamic Contrast given that’s DV’s job. I also don’t see the same crawling/swarming with DV content anyway, but the grain can be pretty prevalent/heavy at times (Luke Cage).
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