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Hi guys. What do people think of the b7 silver trim around the bezel vs the c7 with the black bezel? I looked at both at the store the other day and couldn't really decide. In pictures online with a heavy flash the b7 looked cheaper with the silver outline, but in real life it's tasteful.
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Hi guys. What do people think of the b7 silver trim around the bezel vs the c7 with the black bezel? I looked at both at the store the other day and couldn't really decide. In pictures online with a heavy flash the b7 looked cheaper with the silver outline, but in real life it's tasteful.
I humbly don't have an issue with the bezel, it's the stand where I think the C7 has the advantage which would be irrelevant if you're wall mounting it. And even with the stand I can see how some would prefer the see through plastic that give the television a more floating look.

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I just wanted to post that I tried out the HDR Effect picture mode today for the first time on my 2017 LG and in my opinion, this woke up the unit with SDR content. Until now I wasn't too impressed with the 2017 over the G6.. but now, by all means yes!!
Did you try out the feature "Active HDR" (i.e. "HDR10 with Active HDR enabled" vs "HDR10 without Active HDR enabled")?

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Hi guys. What do people think of the b7 silver trim around the bezel vs the c7 with the black bezel? I looked at both at the store the other day and couldn't really decide. In pictures online with a heavy flash the b7 looked cheaper with the silver outline, but in real life it's tasteful.
Thanks for the information. In Canada only BestBuy has both sets and they don't have either in the stores. One Australian review suggested that there was difference in the bezels but when I contacted LG Canada they told me the only difference was the stands. I ordered the 65C7 and get it next Saturday. I am glad I am getting the black rather than the silver bezel.
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Did you try out the feature "Active HDR" (i.e. "HDR10 with Active HDR enabled" vs "HDR10 without Active HDR enabled")?

Thanks.


Active HDR with Dolby Vision is aimed at enhancing the HDR10 rendering by using a SMPTE ST 2094-10 scene-by-scene color volume mapping or display adaptation.

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How do you enable Active HDR ?
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How do you enable Active HDR ?
+1 where to find this? Would love to explore this because that part of the announcement helped with my interest to get a 2017 set.

This looks like what the A1E is doing with HDR10.. if LG delivers a similar result with DV as the algorithm, that would be outstanding.

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Hi guys. What do people think of the b7 silver trim around the bezel vs the c7 with the black bezel? I looked at both at the store the other day and couldn't really decide. In pictures online with a heavy flash the b7 looked cheaper with the silver outline, but in real life it's tasteful.


I have a B6 and the silver trim against a white wall disappears. Still, I prefer the C7 black trim.


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Hi guys. What do people think of the b7 silver trim around the bezel vs the c7 with the black bezel? I looked at both at the store the other day and couldn't really decide. In pictures online with a heavy flash the b7 looked cheaper with the silver outline, but in real life it's tasteful.
Originally my plan was to wait for the 2017 models in hopes of a black bezel, that's how much the silver concept bothered me. Ultimately I went with the B6 frankly because I didn't realize the C7 had the black trim...not sure how I missed that. Other factors were 2016 models price appeal and also felt the silver looked better to me than the E6 alternative "picture on glass".

All said and done though, the silver is not noticeable to me at all and is no where near as annoying as I thought it would be.

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Thanks for the information. In Canada only BestBuy has both sets and they don't have either in the stores. One Australian review suggested that there was difference in the bezels but when I contacted LG Canada they told me the only difference was the stands. I ordered the 65C7 and get it next Saturday. I am glad I am getting the black rather than the silver bezel.
Well the price will be much different too, I do not know of many warehouse stores that wheel and deal.....Here in the states the C7P is the set to get because of price.
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+1 where to find this? Would love to explore this because that part of the announcement helped with my interest to get a 2017 set.

This looks like what the A1E is doing with HDR10.. if LG delivers a similar result with DV as the algorithm, that would be outstanding.
I think I read somewhere that dynamic contrast on high was actually the Active HDR setting.
It definitely does make a difference but faces are a little too reddish
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How do you enable Active HDR ?
Sorry, I don't know, I don't have a LG TV.

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I have a B6 and the silver trim against a white wall disappears. Still, I prefer the C7 black trim.


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Geez, I've had our B6 sitting on an entertainment furniture since last Oct. I've been trying hard but cannot recall what color is the bezel. Once I turn the tv on, or even when it's off I never waste my time looking for little things like that...
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I think I read somewhere that dynamic contrast on high was actually the Active HDR setting.
It definitely does make a difference but faces are a little too reddish
Note: in HDR Effect picture mode, Dynamic Contrast is grayed out hard set to off..

But, I am watching DirecTV Now from a hardwired Apple TV.. with HDR Effect picture mode with a bit of aggressive Advanced Controls settings: Dynamic Color High, Color Gamut Wide, Super Resolution Medium.. this TV is working to deliver pure eye candy out this SDR feed. Note II: this is not posted as a remedy to a professional calibration but only testing the image production power of the 2017 LG..

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On the W7, yes, I'm noticing that on panning watching it now.. but I think there can be some remedy with the right custom motion slider settings.. its just a matter of figuring out the best config.

Obviously its possible on the panel because Sony is using LGs panel.
Have you figured out the best motion settings?


Isn't De-Judder and De-Blur set to 0 should make 24p movies look smooth?
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Have you figured out the best motion settings?
Not yet.. I am using Smooth for the NBA games.
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Well the price will be much different too, I do not know of many warehouse stores that wheel and deal.....Here in the states the C7P is the set to get because of price.
I know we are not supposed to talk price so I will try and behave. The price in Canada, when the exchange on the dollar is taken into account, is really not that bad but we have much less chance of getting a discount off of retail.
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If you paid that much for your tv if got to see it in it's glory so get one of these: https://www.crutchfield.com/p_120HDM...t&awug=9019498

If you don't want the HDR or 18 GZ (which you should) inline HDMI 4K extender/amplifiers can be had well under $100.

Maybe someone can chime in on if the DLNA is giving you the same picture.
That's a really good idea. I've tried boosters and so far they don't work. I have some hopes for this one though as it carries HDR too, before I go for the expensive one you suggested.

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Not yet.. I am using Smooth for the NBA games.
Right now with Direct TV I have Real Cinema off and True Motion with User at 0/0. Very happy with results for movies and shows. Don't watch a lot of sports so not sure how it would be for that.

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Hey everyone,

Proud owner of 65B7P here. Less than a week. It is by far the best picture I've ever seen, no matter what content I throw at it. It really shines when watching 4K HDR Blu-Ray, especially Planet Earth II which looks amazing.

Of course being on here I tend to obsess over every little details. I've attached pictures of grey patterns and wanted to know what you think. Those patterns are brutal, we can see banding and some reddish tint on the sides. During normal viewing I hadn't noticed the tint at all but had noticed some banding very rarely during horizontal camera pans on uniform dark content. I've read it can dissipate with time and can already notice that it diminished with some hours on it and 2 pixel refresher cycles.

My questions were: 1) what do you think of this set and 2) do you think the banding will continue to diminish.

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Looking good. Hardly any vignetting too. The bands should diminish over time. I'm at about 340 hours on my C7 and I'm noticing the image and uniformity getting better watching as I was watching it today and this evening.

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Looking good. Hardly any vignetting too. The bands should diminish over time. I'm at about 340 hours on my C7 and I'm noticing the image and uniformity getting better watching as I was watching it today and this evening.
Thanks VidPro, appreciate the feedback.
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Note: in HDR Effect picture mode, Dynamic Contrast is grayed out hard set to off..

But, I am watching DirecTV Now from a hardwired Apple TV.. with HDR Effect picture mode with a bit of aggressive Advanced Controls settings: Dynamic Color High, Color Gamut Wide, Super Resolution Medium.. this TV is working to deliver pure eye candy out this SDR feed. Note II: this is not posted as a remedy to a professional calibration but only testing the image production power of the 2017 LG..

The 2017 LGs can push a picture!!!
I also like HDR Effect (medium) for cable and SDR movies. For cable, I lower OLED and contrast to 80, raise brightness a bit, and set color to 40 under HDR Effect mode. Tones in down a bit but looks great. Sports are good with that too. SDR movies, a raise OLED and contrast as needed to look best. I played around a lot using ISF Bright mode at the start but like HDR Effect best.
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calibration of a C7

What would most of you recommend for hours on the C7 TV before you get the set calibrated. After reading through these posts it seems very inconsistent in regards to the banding throughout the entire time most people have had these tvs. Then you throw in the compensation cycles as well that could throw off a calibration... Also I have read on here that resetting the TV to factory default also messes with overall picture settings as in will change the actual picture even if you put brightness/contrast/white balance... exactly where it was... Is this true? Any help here would be great. Thanks.

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^300 hours seems to be the most agreed upon minimum. What you've stated is one reason I'm not fiddling with a calibration, until they can consistently churn these out with better near black uniformity (thus I won't be feeling the need run the TV into the ground), what's the point?
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The lack of vignetting on his B7 has me envious. The banding sucks on these TVs but for me I'd take that over darkened edges. UGH!

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Hi guys. What do people think of the b7 silver trim around the bezel vs the c7 with the black bezel? I looked at both at the store the other day and couldn't really decide. In pictures online with a heavy flash the b7 looked cheaper with the silver outline, but in real life it's tasteful.
I prefer the C7 bezel myself. If black is what matters, then a black bezel is the way to go
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How long is the cable? 25FT and over, those are always being talked about in the projector section of the forum, some cables work, some do not. Some work for one person, for another guy with the same gear, no luck. Amazing.
They were only 5 meters, so it's pretty disappointing. I think the electrician substituted cheaper cables than the spec to save a few quid.
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Hi

I have the B6,do you guys think i should buy the B7?Is the B7 better then the B6?

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The lack of vignetting on his B7 has me envious. The banding sucks on these TVs but for me I'd take that over darkened edges. UGH!
Maybe because it's a 55"? Also worth to mention that his B7 is a retail unit not handpicked LG so it's a pretty good uniformity
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