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I've had the B7 now for 3 weeks and am coming from a 2 year old 1080 LG OLED, the 9300. Though I'm overall pleased with the display of 4K content, I'm kind of disappointed in the display of non-4k material, which is what I mostly watch.

I thought that I had read that the Sony X930 has a better upscaler, so I was just wondering if anyone had any opinions on the pros and cons of exchanging for the Sony X930.

I realize that the black levels will be better on the OLED, but I would be glad to lose the banding and worrying about image retention.

I watch a lot of 1080P streaming content of tv shows from Amazon Video and Vudu, and I just want the best overall performance for watching non-4K content.

I'm currently using the RTings settings with some personal adjustments, though I may try the settings that I just read posted above.

Thanks for any feedback.
I'd keep the B7. 1080P content should look really good on the B7. It's a simple 4x upscale calculation. It's the sat/cable stuff where things can get a little dicey - 720P/1080i - where you're splitting pixels mathematically speaking. See attached chart. In many way's, it's kind of like the old days when people played VHS tapes on their 60" rear projection SD TV's. All the flaws in the signal were magnified. Also give "technicolor Expert" a try as a picture mode. There's actually some sharpening/clarity joo-joo going on under the hood.
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Stay away from the Rtings settings - they were done almost a year ago and there have been several firmware updates released since then. IMO the dedicated calibration thread is a waste of time. Lots of gaming settings, but very little in terms of the type of watching/view you want to do.

Try the below settings. I have also posted most extensive meter based settings in my signature below, but the technicolor Expert picture mode for both SDR and HDR content is the best and most accurate out there.

NOTE: For HDR settings, use the same "technicolor Expert" picture mode and adjust the basic Color setting to 48 to reduce some over-saturation issues. Leave the rest of the settings at default.

Also, on your AppleTV 4K, turn of dynamic range matching, turn on frame rate matching, and leave the home screen video set to 4K HDR. Basically what I'm getting at is to stay away from Dolby Vision if you like watching movies. It's just not implemented very well on the LG - unfortunately. . . . .

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These are almost the settings I use but I set both the noise reductions to Auto. I know that traditionally any noise reduction has been frowned upon as it could soften the image but that is not necessarily the case now, yet folks still avoid it without actually testing it out and seeing the benefits. Personally i do not see any negatives with them set to auto but with compressed signals it can yield a significantly cleaner image. Give it a try.

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The last DV 4K UHD disc I purchased was "It" and currently own all of the 4K UHD Dolby Vision enabled discs, I think any DV issues should be pointed to Apple TV.

The discs from a OPPO 203 are possibly the best display of PQ possible on OLED.
I 100% agree. Think there is some group think going on here and it's the appletv not implementing dv correctly, which they've already admitted they will have to patch to fix.

Using google chromecast ultra, it streams dv and hdr 10 (the appletv isnt the only streamer that does despite what has been stated in this thread), dv blows hdr10 out of the water. Dv also looks great on netflix on built in app (watch non marvel shows for no grain)...turn it to Cinema (user), set sharpness to 0, and you are good to go.

I know Al Leong mentioned the oppo 203, I wanted to offer my take on the streaming side.

On vudu, Oblivion, Live Die Repeat Edge of Tomorrow, Spiderman.Homecoming, Wonder Woman, and BladeRunner 2049 look fantastic in DV. I watched comparable titles in hdr 10 on google play and there is no comparison.

Wait for apple to patch the appletv before assessing dv or venture out of the apple bubble...it's a big world out there.
The Dolby Vision app on the LG 7+ has DV and Atmos demo clips in it that instantly shows the strength of DV. This is why I was a bit confused on the accusations of DV somehow not working well on LGs..

Ive been skimming those DV titles in VUDU today and made me determine it could be possible VUDU re-encoded their DV titles when they added HDR10 compatibility. The VUDU DV stuff now looks on par with the ITunes Movies DV content.

The DV discs though, has always been high level..
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I've had the B7 now for 3 weeks and am coming from a 2 year old 1080 LG OLED, the 9300. Though I'm overall pleased with the display of 4K content, I'm kind of disappointed in the display of non-4k material, which is what I mostly watch.



I thought that I had read that the Sony X930 has a better upscaler, so I was just wondering if anyone had any opinions on the pros and cons of exchanging for the Sony X930.



I realize that the black levels will be better on the OLED, but I would be glad to lose the banding and worrying about image retention.



I watch a lot of 1080P streaming content of tv shows from Amazon Video and Vudu, and I just want the best overall performance for watching non-4K content.



I'm currently using the RTings settings with some personal adjustments, though I may try the settings that I just read posted above.



Thanks for any feedback.


Was it a 65 to 65 (ie you only upgraded the size) or did you go from 55>65. One of the biggest complaints I see posted are from people who made a large jump in size and expect things to look the same or better. If you did increase the size, did you also move back in seating distance?

The 1080p you are referring to is still low bandwidth 1080p. How does physical media look? If that looks fine/good then you know it’s the source.

Personally with my 65” B7A I haven’t had any issues that were not related to the source. I have a number of blu-ray 1:1 rips and they look excellent. For streaming it all depends on what I am watching. If regular HD stream it goes from good to “soft” looking. I know this is the source though and there is only so much that can be done.

While the 930E is a great TV you’d give up one set of problems for another set of them. In the end people need to decide what they are willing to live with and what they are not. Nothing is “perfect”, but it may be “perfect” for you.
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it's the appletv not implementing dv correctly, which they've already admitted they will have to patch to fix.
Where did you see this?
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Thank you for posting some non calibrated settings. I tried starting a thread about this but it never got any posts.
Are your above settings for a bright room?

What do you like for hdr settings?

What do you like for motion settings?

Thanks again!
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Doing a 2.2 vs 2.4 test my wife picked 2.4, and as I understand it that is for a dark room. Hmmmm. More testing. Maybe I will stick in my Disney WOW blu ray and use it to look at black crushing and white crush.

Someone mentioned Gamma of 1.8. On my LG OLED it doesn't have a 1.8, but it has a 1.9.

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I've had the B7 now for 3 weeks and am coming from a 2 year old 1080 LG OLED, the 9300. Though I'm overall pleased with the display of 4K content, I'm kind of disappointed in the display of non-4k material, which is what I mostly watch.

I thought that I had read that the Sony X930 has a better upscaler, so I was just wondering if anyone had any opinions on the pros and cons of exchanging for the Sony X930.

I realize that the black levels will be better on the OLED, but I would be glad to lose the banding and worrying about image retention.

I watch a lot of 1080P streaming content of tv shows from Amazon Video and Vudu, and I just want the best overall performance for watching non-4K content.

I'm currently using the RTings settings with some personal adjustments, though I may try the settings that I just read posted above.

Thanks for any feedback.
Does your AVR do up-scaling, try that. What are your non-4K sources? I use Shield, and ripped BDs via my Oppo 203 and they all look great. Older 480 content looks like crap no matter what I use to upscale it. My DirecTV also looks very good. Sony processing is good, but garbage in is still garbage out.

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Doing a 2.2 vs 2.4 test my wife picked 2.4, and as I understand it that is for a dark room. Hmmmm. More testing. Maybe I will stick in my Disney WOW blu ray and use it to look at black crushing and white crush.

Someone mentioned Gamma of 1.8. On my LG OLED it doesn't have a 1.8, but it has a 1.9.
My apologies. . . Gamma 1.9 would be the setting for a bright room. ( My other TV does have a 1.8 option ) 2.2 is a nice middle ground setting - kind of a set it and done. It's also what ISF recommends for most calibrations. Don't know why your wife liked 2.4 for a bright room. Try to find some really dark content ( Master and Commander - Far Side . . . . ) The below deck scenes are definitely darker. You should see a lot of detail loss in a bright room with 2.4 - and then switch to 2.2 and then 1.9.

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IMO, DV looks gimmicky when streamed. I mean it looks OK, but not as natural as HDR, not as smooth. Watching the content from a disc ( Oppo ) is bound to be better. Certainly not nearly as compressed as streaming.
I've determined an opinion to the current DV issue in discussion after some observations. Don't want to double post so I'll link to it here: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-ole...l#post55536674
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I'm probably crazy, but I think the image on my B7A was sharper than the picture on this new C7P. That doesn't make any sense. No one has said anything about sharpness differences.

I think I need to start watching TV with my eyes closed.

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^^^it's more likely that it is panel variance!
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Anyone know if there is a way to hookup the TV to powered monitors? It only seems to have HDMI ARC and optical out. My speakers take XLR or 1/4". :/ It would be nice rather than having to use the built-in speakers when watching content through the built-in apps.
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I have no idea if such a thing exists.

I think you can set the optical out to always be PCM stereo, but I don't know for sure.

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Today I had my tv profotionaly calibrated, and to be honest I don’t think it’s worth it, because I hardly can tell deference between my calibrated day mode and non calibrated night mode when I match the basic picture setting, I really fell bad for that $400 I spent :-(.
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These are almost the settings I use but I set both the noise reductions to Auto. I know that traditionally any noise reduction has been frowned upon as it could soften the image but that is not necessarily the case now, yet folks still avoid it without actually testing it out and seeing the benefits. Personally i do not see any negatives with them set to auto but with compressed signals it can yield a significantly cleaner image. Give it a try.
Im going to give this a shot on my crappy comcast x1 only...would be nice if it can clean.up the compression artifacts a bit.
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Today I had my tv profotionaly calibrated, and to be honest I don’t think it’s worth it, because I hardly can tell deference between my calibrated day mode and non calibrated night mode when I match the basic picture setting, I really fell bad for that $400 I spent :-(.
I hope the calibrator left you with some kind of calibration report that shows the before and after differences. At least that way you will know how much the TV was out of spec before the calibration started. It make take a couple of days before you will start to notice the PQ improvements. If nothing else you should be seeing very natural looking flesh tones. These LG OLED's are really good TV's. The improvements that a calibrator can make to your picture will be more subtle than what you might see with a bargain brand TV.

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My apologies. . . Gamma 1.9 would be the setting for a bright room. ( My other TV does have a 1.8 option ) 2.2 is a nice middle ground setting - kind of a set it and done. It's also what ISF recommends for most calibrations. Don't know why your wife liked 2.4 for a bright room. Try to find some really dark content ( Master and Commander - Far Side . . . . ) The below deck scenes are definitely darker. You should see a lot of detail loss in a bright room with 2.4 - and then switch to 2.2 and then 1.9.

I notice something really funny with gamma and brightness


using gamma 2.4 with brightness 52-53 its look almost identical on using gamma 2.2 with brightness 50-51 :O

as soon that you raise brightness to restore the little shadow detail lost of gamma 2.4 the picture looks more like 2.2 with normal brightness
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Today I had my tv profotionaly calibrated, and to be honest I don’t think it’s worth it, because I hardly can tell deference between my calibrated day mode and non calibrated night mode when I match the basic picture setting, I really fell bad for that $400 I spent :-(.
Ouch. Yeah I hear you. I know there are VERY small benefits to calibrating these OLEDs because even the base Cinema/Technicolor modes are VERY good, - more than good enough.

The problem as well with calibrating the OLEDs is that it feels like a moving target. Modes get tweaked in firmware updates, there are SO many picture modes (I mean you need to dial in SDR, HDR10, DV, - list is endless - and not all sources are even presented correctly - DV elevates black levels on a lot of sources currently etc).

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Did you have a traveling professional do it, not best buy I hope?

I had my plasma calibrated a while back. They way I saw it it was $400 of psychological counseling saved. After getting it calibrated, I never thought again about touching any control (except the volume).
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I'm probably crazy, but I think the image on my B7A was sharper than the picture on this new C7P. That doesn't make any sense. No one has said anything about sharpness differences.

I think I need to start watching TV with my eyes closed.
It's panel variance...i went through 3 panels...the third looks like it's a different tv....dont even see the marco polo stress test banding anymore. I got super lucky, still have a tinting issue but its with the physical screen. I can turn the tv off and if i look at my reflection and move around, you can see the red tinting issue on the left side. Rarely seen in content unless Im really looking for it.
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Can you please post your source about AppleTV not implementing DV correctly. The only sources I’ve seen on the forums say that there is a problem with DV over HDMI, and not limited to Apple TV, and the fix from Dolby is in the decoder which resides on the TV.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnarc.../#7592823c2906


So its saying LG will have to implement the fix because it's an hdmi issue. That having been said, I dont see the issue on the google chromecast ultra and it uses hdmi too so who knows.
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So its saying LG will have to implement the fix because it's an hdmi issue. That having been said, I dont see the issue on the google chromecast ultra and it uses hdmi too so who knows.
So in the other thread Al Leong linked above he said:

I read the latest developer beta ATV firmware fixes that issue. I dont have an ATV connected to any of my LGs at the moment to verify the fix but read another member mention it.

So it's possible google chromecast ultra already patched it and might not need a patch from lg.
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Did you have a traveling professional do it, not best buy I hope?

I had my plasma calibrated a while back. They way I saw it it was $400 of psychological counseling saved. After getting it calibrated, I never thought again about touching any control (except the volume).
No I did not use Best Buy, it was an ISF tech, but what I’m saying is the differences is so minimal that I don’t think it’s worty $400, maybe it just my expectation was little higher, this Oleds are great out of the box.
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I hope the calibrator left you with some kind of calibration report that shows the before and after differences. At least that way you will know how much the TV was out of spec before the calibration started. It make take a couple of days before you will start to notice the PQ improvements. If nothing else you should be seeing very natural looking flesh tones. These LG OLED's are really good TV's. The improvements that a calibrator can make to your picture will be more subtle than what you might see with a bargain brand TV.
Honestly those chart don’t mean nothing if it does not translate to the image quality, the lines look straight and all that good stuff, but the wow factor when you compare calibrate vs non calaibrate mode was not there, almost identical, maybe it’s jusy me.
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Today I had my tv profotionaly calibrated, and to be honest I don’t think it’s worth it, because I hardly can tell deference between my calibrated day mode and non calibrated night mode when I match the basic picture setting, I really fell bad for that $400 I spent :-(.
The reality is some of these TVs come from the factory with a mode that is very well close to a calibrated setup. I just had mine done and the changes are subtle but noticeable. To me the whites and skin tones are better. My pre-report showed out of the box the brighter whites had a slew toward blue and the above black 5 and 10 IRE ranges were way out with dE of 10 and over 5 and everything now meters perfect.

I will admit my eye is not as critical or as accurate as the calibrators and most people are far less critical. Look at how many people use settings that create horrible color and over exaggerated contrast.

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So its saying LG will have to implement the fix because it's an hdmi issue. That having been said, I dont see the issue on the google chromecast ultra and it uses hdmi too so who knows.


It’s been reported on oppo players.


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Was it a 65 to 65 (ie you only upgraded the size) or did you go from 55>65. One of the biggest complaints I see posted are from people who made a large jump in size and expect things to look the same or better. If you did increase the size, did you also move back in seating distance?

The 1080p you are referring to is still low bandwidth 1080p. How does physical media look? If that looks fine/good then you know it’s the source.

Personally with my 65” B7A I haven’t had any issues that were not related to the source. I have a number of blu-ray 1:1 rips and they look excellent. For streaming it all depends on what I am watching. If regular HD stream it goes from good to “soft” looking. I know this is the source though and there is only so much that can be done.

While the 930E is a great TV you’d give up one set of problems for another set of them. In the end people need to decide what they are willing to live with and what they are not. Nothing is “perfect”, but it may be “perfect” for you.
Don't do it.
Everything you love about the LG is lost if you go to the 930e.
I used to own a C6p for a year. Recently sold privately and got a 65x930e. I'm impressed by the upscale abilities, and how it can make SDR look like HDR. But when HDR kicks in it is completely underwhelming, or there was something wrong with my panel. I copied settings recommended here and still was not impressed by the "brightness." You also can't zoom in proportionally to get rid of black bars on movies. And Android TV is absolutely HATEFUL, HATEFUL EXPERIENCE. THE WORST.
Trust me here, a crummy source of content will always be crummy. Polish a terd and it's still a terd. I don't watch much non 4k HDR / DV. I'm a cord cutter. My shows are all Amazon or Netflix exclusives and they look gorgeous on any HDR tv I'd presume.
I returned the x930e this evening and I'm either giving OLED another try or I'm getting the 75" LG sj8570 because it solves my burn in paranoia woes and still has all the web os 3.5 features and atmos via arc. Win.

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