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How is everyone dealing with screen burnin? I run mine as a desktop monitor only and have extremely noticeable lines where windows have sat. Tried the panel refresh setting numerous times but it never goes away?

ANyone tried LG for a replacement panel with burnin that is about 9 months old?
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^^^Your only running it as a monitor? Do you watch any other content?
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Nope. I rarely watch a full screen movie..
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^^^oh wow, yeah you might have BI, unfortunately these being emmisive displays, if you leave static logos on for extended periods of time without varying content, and in your case all the time, it will more than likely develope BI. You can try calling LG and see what they tell you.
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How is everyone dealing with screen burnin? I run mine as a desktop monitor only and have extremely noticeable lines where windows have sat. Tried the panel refresh setting numerous times but it never goes away?



ANyone tried LG for a replacement panel with burnin that is about 9 months old?


LG doesn’t cover BI, there is only one warranty that I know of that does and that’s Best Buy’s geek squad warranty. I believe most here are using this for a variety of content not just a computer monitor. The only thing you can really try is running full screen content to see if it goes away.
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How is everyone dealing with screen burnin? I run mine as a desktop monitor only and have extremely noticeable lines where windows have sat. Tried the panel refresh setting numerous times but it never goes away?

ANyone tried LG for a replacement panel with burnin that is about 9 months old?
only other thing you can do is make sure a screen saver is active in Windows (5 minute timer)
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Yeah, I now run energy saving at medium and have the PC set so that the display goes off after 3 minutes.. it was 10..

Even on a fully white screen, you can see a greyish line down the centre of the screen where the windows sat..
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^^^as Ph8te suggested you might wanna also try running full screen content...when not using it as a monitor.
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Why would anyone use an OLED only as a PC monitor?
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But the Oppo and LG 970 doesn’t have usb in for hdd/thumb drive? I wasn’t referring to BD, but a Usb drive with MKV/M2T with DV movie on it
MKV doesn't support (yet?) any Dolby Vision profile. M2TS file ripped from an unencrypted DV UHD disc could be played, but probably the DV layer will be discarded (because of DV licensing terms)
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default dolby vision settings on cinema picture preset. Just turn off any stuff like mpeg noise reduction. same for HDR10 on technicolor picture mode except turn dynamic contrast on to low to enable active HDR. SDR is kind of different. OLED light is your preference. I use brightness 50, color 50, OLED light 40, sharpness 10 in the technicolor picture mode. I always leave color temp on warm2 and color gamut auto. Color gamut is locked out in dolby vision.

Also in the picture options I turn edge enhancer on which supposedly enables the sharpness setting on the main settings, otherwise it does nothing. This was debated a while ago with no definitive answer but I decided to use it. That's about it. I just don't turn on any stuff that says noise reduction or clarity enhancer. I have true motion off too but you can play with it and see what you think. I find it gives visual artifacts.
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A quick question :
I use the cinema mode for HDR10 , that I tweaked to my liking. Compared to the standard mode that I used before, it has active hdr and doesn't blow the highlights. Much better experience indeed.
But for Dolby vision, what is the advantage of using cinema mode instead of standard ? There is no active hdr here, and the cinema mode for dolby vision seems to me like it is duller than the standard mode.

Thank you for your advice
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Why would anyone use an OLED only as a PC monitor?
Why not? Serious question.
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MKV doesn't support (yet?) any Dolby Vision profile. M2TS file ripped from an unencrypted DV UHD disc could be played, but probably the DV layer will be discarded (because of DV licensing terms)


In recent movies with DV, I’ve see it, but in dual layer. DV in layer 2. The new ATV4K firm maybe?
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Hi,
A quick question :
I use the cinema mode for HDR10 , that I tweaked to my liking. Compared to the standard mode that I used before, it has active hdr and doesn't blow the highlights. Much better experience indeed.
But for Dolby vision, what is the advantage of using cinema mode instead of standard ? There is no active hdr here, and the cinema mode for dolby vision seems to me like it is duller than the standard mode.

Thank you for your advice
Standard mode has active HDR too, no ? For me, only gaming mode didn't have it.

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Standard mode has active HDR too, no ? For me, only gaming mode didn't have it.
You seem to have misread my post.
So here goes again :

Active HDR is useful only with HDR10 content. So for HDR10 content, I indeed used cinema mode which has active HDR.

But Active HDR is useless with Dolby vision content, as Dolby vision already has dynamic metadata. So what is the advantage of cinema mode rather than standard mode for Dolby vision ? Especially as cinema mode appears duller than standard mode ?
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You seem to have misread my post.
So here goes again :

Active HDR is useful only with HDR10 content. So for HDR10 content, I indeed used cinema mode which has active HDR.

But Active HDR is useless with Dolby vision content, as Dolby vision already has dynamic metadata. So what is the advantage of cinema mode rather than standard mode for Dolby vision ? Especially as cinema mode appears duller than standard mode ?
Cinema mode is considered more accurate in terms of colors, and should match what tv/movie creators intended when it comes to watching their content. It might look duller vs Standard, but the counter is that Standard is too bright/vibrant and it's not what the director/cinematographer intended when they made their movie/show.

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Why not? Serious question.
I think you've already discovered the answer to that yourself...
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Quick question regarding dolby vision vs HDR10.

As far as I understand DV's recommended OLED light setting is 50, while HDR10 is 100.

But the overall brightness should be the same?

So does my oled pixels "work harder" when watching HDR10 content @ 100% OLED light vs DV content @ 50% OLED light?
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Why not? Serious question.
Becase of burn-in, of course. Static images shown for a prolonged period of time (in your case, the Windows taskbar) will result in permanent damage to your display. My advice would be to enable the auto-hide feature for the taskbar and also, switch to other content from time to time (watch some TV, a movie, anything that doesn't show static image). It might be too late for you since your panel already shows signs of BI, but it's something you should've known before getting an OLED.
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Even on a fully white screen, you can see a greyish line down the centre of the screen where the windows sat..
Run a movie or whatever with no logos, for 5 days strait, after that test it. If those lines are still there you are burned in, if not, it was image retention.......
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Run a movie or whatever with no logos, for 5 days strait, after that test it. If those lines are still there you are burned in, if not, it was image retention.......
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I remember hearing that race car drivers like Jeff Gordon or Dale Earnhardt Jr use their race cars to take the kids to soccer practice, and to go grocery shopping.
Maybe the paint job makes the car look like the actual racer, but the genuine article only has one caged seat, no mufflers, and no reverse. It might be cool to do that once, but never as a daily driver, and I'm thinking the kids would probably be crying after a ride like that, especially when they have to crawl out of the drivers side window because the doors are welded shut. LOL

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Cinema mode is considered more accurate in terms of colors, and should match what tv/movie creators intended when it comes to watching their content. It might look duller vs Standard, but the counter is that Standard is too bright/vibrant and it's not what the director/cinematographer intended when they made their movie/show.

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Quick question regarding dolby vision vs HDR10.

As far as I understand DV's recommended OLED light setting is 50, while HDR10 is 100.

But the overall brightness should be the same?

So does my oled pixels "work harder" when watching HDR10 content @ 100% OLED light vs DV content @ 50% OLED light?
The modes work off of two different scales, and also because the actual dynamic range is mapped differently. Most of the titles out there should be mastered at 1,000 nits as the max luminance, but because there are no standards on the HDR-10 side, many of the titles are mapped at ridiculous nits levels that are utterly useless because there are no consumer displays capable of producing nits in those ( 4,000 to 10,000 ) ranges. So the answer is to turn up the OLED LIGHT to full blast in order to preserve precious tone mapping, while also ignoring eye comfort levels ( because there is no standard for that ) - and because your pupils contract looking at overly bright content, you no longer can discern dark details. It's all a cluster. I recommend setting the OLED LIGHT to what looks good and feels comfortable to you. For DV Cinema (User) go from 50 to 70. For the HDR varieties reduce from 100 to 70.
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LG doesn’t cover BI, there is only one warranty that I know of that does and that’s Best Buy’s geek squad warranty. I believe most here are using this for a variety of content not just a computer monitor. The only thing you can really try is running full screen content to see if it goes away.


There is a regional retailer down here that has a warranty that covers that as well. They define it as stuck pixels and either replace the panel or replace the tv if their guys can’t fix it. It’s an in-home repair too. My friend had his B6 replaced last year for it and it was minor.

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Hi,

A quick question :

I use the cinema mode for HDR10 , that I tweaked to my liking. Compared to the standard mode that I used before, it has active hdr and doesn't blow the highlights. Much better experience indeed.

But for Dolby vision, what is the advantage of using cinema mode instead of standard ? There is no active hdr here, and the cinema mode for dolby vision seems to me like it is duller than the standard mode.



Thank you for your advice


I guess it’s supposed to be more accurate. I don’t know the behind the scenes stuff it may do.

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You seem to have misread my post.
So here goes again :

Active HDR is useful only with HDR10 content. So for HDR10 content, I indeed used cinema mode which has active HDR.

But Active HDR is useless with Dolby vision content, as Dolby vision already has dynamic metadata. So what is the advantage of cinema mode rather than standard mode for Dolby vision ? Especially as cinema mode appears duller than standard mode ?
Sorry, I though you were talking HDR10 all the time.

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A quick question :
I use the cinema mode for HDR10 , that I tweaked to my liking. Compared to the standard mode that I used before, it has active hdr and doesn't blow the highlights. Much better experience indeed.
But for Dolby vision, what is the advantage of using cinema mode instead of standard ? There is no active hdr here, and the cinema mode for dolby vision seems to me like it is duller than the standard mode.

Thank you for your advice
Standard is brighter, but a bit blown out. Cinema is more accurate.

With displays, it's always a trade-off between brightness and accuracy.
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Curious Firmware Question:

Would the 2018 OLED C8x/E8x/W8x model's Firmware update 03.00.30 at this link work for our 2017 C7x/E8x/W8x OLED Models?

I ask in that I would like to get a firmware update that would add things like Black Frame Insertion (Motion Pro), Brighter HDR Game Mode, and Logo Luminance Adjustment settings that the new 2018 OLEDs have.

*Note I did ask this in another smaller thread but thought I should ask here, as this is the main thread.
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