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English please? LOL... I'm at work so I can't check right now but what am I looking for in color management system?
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in Color Management System you have controls for Red, Green, Blue, etcc for each you can set Saturation, Tint and Luminance. Since the 2016 and 2017 series have problems with CMS controls Chad and others always advised to not mess too much with them. So just wondering if he touched sat and lum together or only one of them. On mine i just touched the luminance. If i do both i get artifacts in color gradients.
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Ahhh that's cool... so it is? Does R4 R2 give it away?





I was talking about SDR for ISF Bright/Dark... I thought you mentioned bright/dark settings in our emails. My HDR and DV are both Cinema (User).
Oops, okay. HD Dark as in dark room. Same for HD Bright for day. Except I don't use HD Bright. OLED light is 30 for HD Dark/Night and it's fine. Especially after this black privacy film was applied.
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one more question

in CMS he touched saturation and luminance for primaries and secondaries or luminance only?
I know you asked Travis, but Doug W. didn't mess with CMS. I forgot what he said about it.
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in Color Management System you have controls for Red, Green, Blue, etcc for each you can set Saturation, Tint and Luminance. Since the 2016 and 2017 series have problems with CMS controls Chad and others always advised to not mess too much with them. So just wondering if he touched sat and lum together or only one of them. On mine i just touched the luminance. If i do both i get artifacts in color gradients.
Ahhh... well I am not in front of the TV but I do have access to my calibration reports and it appears Chad followed his own advice and didn't mess with them too much. I see under CMS X,X,X numbers for each setting and the only ones that don't show a 0 are the 2nd number... which would be Tint.


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Oops, okay. HD Dark as in dark room. Same for HD Bright for day. Except I don't use HD Bright. OLED light is 30 for HD Dark/Night and it's fine. Especially after this black privacy film was applied.
Oh ok. I don't use bright either... but the girlfriend likes to watch her SDR Comcast shows with the lights on... so that ISF Expert Bright will help with that. I prefer dark of course... with the blackout curtains and both windows blacked out. The only outside light at all would be light from a kitchen window and it doesn't really make it to the living room.

ISF Expert Dark is 49... Bright is 80.

I know people here like to push Technicolor mode and that's fine... but I trusted him with the modes he went with. No reason not to. I've seen way too many positive reviews (dozens in fact) to question it... LOL
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Ahhh... well I am not in front of the TV but I do have access to my calibration reports and it appears Chad followed his own advice and didn't mess with them too much. I see under CMS X,X,X numbers for each setting and the only ones that don't show a 0 are the 2nd number... which would be Tint.




Oh ok. I don't use bright either... but the girlfriend likes to watch her SDR Comcast shows with the lights on... so that ISF Expert Bright will help with that. I prefer dark of course... with the blackout curtains and both windows blacked out. The only outside light at all would be light from a kitchen window and it doesn't really make it to the living room.

ISF Expert Dark is 49... Bright is 80.

I know people here like to push Technicolor mode and that's fine... but I trusted him with the modes he went with. No reason not to. I've seen way too many positive reviews (dozens in fact) to question it... LOL
Doug has plenty of good reviews. He doesn't follow this thread. So he's not being influenced by this thread. That is a "clean" setting like ISF ones. No other settings are attached to that setting automatically.
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Doug has plenty of good reviews. He doesn't follow this thread. So he's not being influenced by this thread. That is a "clean" setting like ISF ones. No other settings are attached to that setting automatically.
I posted that comment because I've already had a couple people ask me why technicolor mode wasn't used. Wasn't talking about your cal guy... just sayin. Chad told me technicolor and ISF expert are different from the factory... but calibrate to the same end result. I even asked if there was a difference between them after calibration and he said no... So that was good enough for me...

... and no idea what you mean when you say no other settings are attached automatically.

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I've had this problem a couple of different times. Spoke to LG about it.

It is caused by an upgrade either to the TV firmware or to the LG software or APPS.

Simple fix:

Pause your program turn TV off then back on. Center channel should be back.

LG Fix:
Reboot TV---

Use power on/off switch located lower back left side (E7) and turn TV off.

Remove all HDMI cables from TV.

Turn TV back on from power switch holding switch in on position for 10 seconds.

Let TV fully come on.

Turn TV off with remote (or power switch)

Re-attach all HDMI cables.

Turn TV on usual manner.


That should work until the next significant firmware/software upgrade.


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Thank you very much for the reply. I'll try these exact steps if/when it happens again.

In your simple instructions when you say "pause" your program do you mean literally press pause and then turn the TV off with the remote and then back on again?
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Ahhh... well I am not in front of the TV but I do have access to my calibration reports and it appears Chad followed his own advice and didn't mess with them too much. I see under CMS X,X,X numbers for each setting and the only ones that don't show a 0 are the 2nd number... which would be Tint.
Thank you Travis!
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Just spent my entire weekend playing the new God Of War in 4K HDR on my 65E7 and PS4 Pro and the experience is nothing short of spectacular, wow just wow. First of all the game itself is so stellar and so amazing that Im seriously thinking this might have just become my favorite game of all time. The game is absolutely breathtakingly gorgeous and by far the best looking console game Ive ever played and looks absolutely incredible on a HDR 4K Oled display.

If you own a PS4 Pro and an LG oled you owe it to yourself to experience this.... seriously do not pass this game/experience over.
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It’s still amazes me that in 2018 RS232 quite often still offers a more solid connection than IP. I still run a few of my devices that way because their IP implementation is flaky.
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Just spent my entire weekend playing the new God Of War in 4K HDR on my 65E7 and PS4 Pro and the experience is nothing short of spectacular, wow just wow. First of all the game itself is so stellar and so amazing that Im seriously thinking this might have just become my favorite game of all time. The game is absolutely breathtakingly gorgeous and by far the best looking console game Ive ever played and looks absolutely incredible on a HDR 4K Oled display.

If you own a PS4 Pro and an LG oled you owe it to yourself to experience this.... seriously do not pass this game/experience over.
I'm enjoying it too. I'd give Assassin's Creed: Origins on Xbox One X the nod for the better "4k"/HDR experience on my C7, but this GoW on the Pro is right up there as well. I'd second your recommendation.
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Just spent my entire weekend playing the new God Of War in 4K HDR on my 65E7 and PS4 Pro and the experience is nothing short of spectacular, wow just wow. First of all the game itself is so stellar and so amazing that Im seriously thinking this might have just become my favorite game of all time. The game is absolutely breathtakingly gorgeous and by far the best looking console game Ive ever played and looks absolutely incredible on a HDR 4K Oled display.

If you own a PS4 Pro and an LG oled you owe it to yourself to experience this.... seriously do not pass this game/experience over.
I have the One X and have to recommend Red Dead Redemption. It got the 4K update a week or so ago and man... for an old school game does it looks absolutely sick in 4K. Not sure if the Playstationers got it though but thought I'd mention it.

A nice lead in to RDR2 this fall.
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I really do not understand the "too dim" with HDR Game Mode. My C7 looks great in Game Mode. Playing God Of War, Horizon Zero Dawn, Sea Of Theives, Gears Of War 4, Madden 18 all look Amazing! I know Standard picture mode is brighter but Game mode looks better in my personal opinion. The C8 has tone mapping that is suppose to help for those that find it dim.. but Rtings said that they do Not recommend Dynamic Tone Mapping since it changes the Picture curve too much.
It depends on the game and how they chose to approach accepted brightness.
Games that literally unlock the brightness and accept whatever they are given will suffer on the 2017 in peak areas areas of highlight as the tone mapping on the set is now adjusted to ignore the brightness and focus on maintaining image detail.

Games that do not have unlocked brightness and are “graded” or have adjustable hdr setting look fine on the set. They circumvent the issue entirely with the tone mapping on the the 2017 oleds game mode hdr picture mode.

Horizon is one of those games that suffers in resolving highlight detail.

The game still looks good, however it is now missing one of the benifits of running a game in an hdr mode by focusing on the retention of detail at the cost of peak highlights.

The worst part of the changes made to hdr game mode isn’t the brightness leveling itself, but the introduced inconsistency from game to game caused by the change.

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I'm enjoying it too. I'd give Assassin's Creed: Origins on Xbox One X the nod for the better "4k"/HDR experience on my C7, but this GoW on the Pro is right up there as well. I'd second your recommendation.


Having both games in my collection I’d disagree because I found many areas of assassins creed where low resolution assets are readily apparent. Stuff like lower resolution textures that have posterization for example.
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Having both games in my collection I’d disagree because I found many areas of assassins creed where low resolution assets are readily apparent. Stuff like lower resolution textures that have posterization for example.
GoW has far, far superior HDR to AC: Origins, in my estimations. The mood and ambience is second to none in GoW.
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Well, we obviously disagree, but this is not the time or place for discussion.
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Well, we obviously disagree, but this is not the time or place for discussion.
If both of you think your particular game looks good on the OLED I'd call that an agreement!
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If both of you think your particular game looks good on the OLED I'd call that an agreement!
It definitely is an amazing gaming display. I personally wouldn't buy one for just that... but am quite happy with how my XB1X games have looked post-calibration.
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It definitely is an amazing gaming display. I personally wouldn't buy one for just that... but am quite happy with how my XB1X games have looked post-calibration.
I've never owned or even played XB , PS, etc. Video games hold no interest for me.
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In picture gallery on the LG C7 55” can you slow down the picture refresh? I love the picture frame slide show but wanted to maybe have it refresh every few minutes or pause it.
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I've never owned or even played XB , PS, etc. Video games hold no interest for me.
I hear ya.

There's not nearly as much interest today when I'm 43 (Call of Duty, Red Dead Redemption) compared to when I was 11 (Super Mario Bros) or even 6 (Pitfall).

Lots of memories from the beginnings of the video game age. They've come a long way... much like the displays we play on.

OLED definitely helps keep the interest.
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I hear ya.

There's not nearly as much interest today when I'm 43 (Call of Duty, Red Dead Redemption) compared to when I was 11 (Super Mario Bros) or even 6 (Pitfall).

Lots of memories from the beginnings of the video game age. They've come a long way... much like the displays we play on.

OLED definitely helps keep the interest.
Agreed, people are different, which is one of the reasons that Baskin-Robbins advertised 31 flavors, and you could have a different one every day of tbe month. OLEDs are the best choice for PQ, AFAIC.
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There's not nearly as much interest today when I'm 43 (Call of Duty, Red Dead Redemption) compared to when I was 11 (Super Mario Bros) or even 6 (Pitfall).
I'm about the same age and I disagree. There are so many amazing games out there if you scratch below the AAA surface. However, serious videogaming has developed so far from its forebears that many of the best games are not especially accessible without a large time investment. It's difficult to show someone who only knew the arcade and maybe the NES what modern gaming is capable of, because they've missed all that development in between and struggle to process all that's going on.

Back to OLED's... I've only done a little bit of HDR gaming on my set - mostly FF15 and HZD. Of the two, HZD seems to play worse with the LG game mode. It's a little dim at times, depending on the in-game lighting. But it's far from unplayable. If I just turn off the overhead lights and draw the blinds to dim the room a little it's significantly better. Total darkness isn't necessary, just not a very bright room. As others have said, the C7 wouldn't be my first choice for a hardcore gaming set. But for more casual and occasional use it's totally fine.
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I'm enjoying it too. I'd give Assassin's Creed: Origins on Xbox One X the nod for the better "4k"/HDR experience on my C7, but this GoW on the Pro is right up there as well. I'd second your recommendation.
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Sorry, had to do it.

Just started GoW on my C7 and my wife stopped in her tracks when she saw it to admire the incredible detail. HDR highlights on their eyes, fire, etc....wow, just wow.

Our OLED's are simply outstanding and I wish everyone could appreciate them like we do.
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I'm about the same age and I disagree. There are so many amazing games out there if you scratch below the AAA surface. However, serious videogaming has developed so far from its forebears that many of the best games are not especially accessible without a large time investment. It's difficult to show someone who only knew the arcade and maybe the NES what modern gaming is capable of, because they've missed all that development in between and struggle to process all that's going on.
Hey that’s cool... but all I was saying is I’m not nearly as interested in video games now compared to when I was a kid. I invest much less time into it... both the $500 One X and my $4000 gaming PC.

It’s been going on for a while but has gotten worse lately... since I bought the OLED.

More movies... less gaming.
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Still, Donkey Kong is a really good game. One of the relatively few golden age arcades that feels like more than a mindless quarter-eater.
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Boys, this is a thread about the TV, not games.

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I purchased an 55 B7 a few weeks ago and am absolutely enthralled with it. Hands down the best electronic device I’ve ever purchased.

I’m using a Denon DHT-S514 sounbar with it via the ARC HDMI port.

I started noticing a split second flash or flicker on the screen when playing Stranger Things season 2 in Dolby Vision that is repeatable using the native LG app. It’s very random and very rare but it’s enough to notice. I’ve set tru motion to 0 and 0 as per Reddit suggestions for people having the same issue via HDMI connections with Apple TV but the quick flicker is still visible. The opening scene of season 2 episode 9 does it every time immediately after the Netflix logo fades to black (quick white flash). I noticed it a few times as well in other episodes.

I’ve also tested the exact same scene on my Samsung LED and it had no flash.

Suggestions? I suspect the sound bar is playing a role but I’m not sure.
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