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Same rules like the plasma regarding babying it for the first 100 hours?
No need to baby it at all. Just start using it normally and yes, I'd dial in the settings from (say) rtings. The only thing to remember is to avoid having static content (like Windows) displayed on the screen for too long. OLEDs have a tendency to burn-in. With normal content (movies, tv series) you are good to go.

Have fun, it is a good TV! I have 55C7V and have been very happy with it
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For Xbox One X and PS4 Pro HDR titles on the C7 are you guys running Dynamic Contrast on Low or OFF??
For HDR Game mode, I have it set to off. For watching a HDR movie from the XBOX, I'd switch to one of the other modes (Technicolor or Cinema User) and set it to low.
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I have the same mount as yours and it worked just fine on my B7. See photo
Got the biased lighting and everything, looking sweet
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I have the newest firmware on my 55C7V (04.70.85), but Non-HDR videos on YouTube look washed out, any idea what this is about?
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don't sell your Plasma.... yet!

I screwed up..I purchased the B7 65 and especially enjoy it with xb 1x enhanced games etc but it will never handle 1080 HD (80% of the media) as well as a samsung plasma f8500 or the panasonic top 65 but... I was warned about this here *before I sold my plasma. My advice, wait for more 4k media if you own a plasma.

I got this OLED for NFL 4k which I'll have to pay for.
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For Xbox One X and PS4 Pro HDR titles on the C7 are you guys running Dynamic Contrast on Low or OFF??

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Low is the best overall settings that I've seen, Bumps the brightness without impacting detail. Medium and above absolutely crushes details.

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Game mode does NOT have active HDR on the 2017 models. Off is correct in my view
Off is "correct" but due to the firmware changes it's just too dim for my liking. Low all the way.
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I screwed up..I purchased the B7 65 and especially enjoy it with xb 1x enhanced games etc but it will never handle 1080 HD (80% of the media) as well as a samsung plasma f8500 or the panasonic top 65 but... I was warned about this here *before I sold my plasma. My advice, wait for more 4k media if you own a plasma.



I got this OLED for NFL 4k which I'll have to pay for.


Well, there is no NFL 4k and there is tons of 4k content.

Imo, it handles everything better than my old plasma


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I screwed up..I purchased the B7 65 and especially enjoy it with xb 1x enhanced games etc but it will never handle 1080 HD (80% of the media) as well as a samsung plasma f8500 or the panasonic top 65 but... I was warned about this here *before I sold my plasma. My advice, wait for more 4k media if you own a plasma.

I got this OLED for NFL 4k which I'll have to pay for.

I have the C7 OLED as well as Samsung F8500 plasma and the Panasonic VT60 plasma - each in different rooms of the house. All are amazing TVs but I definitely wouldn't say the C7 OLED is not as good at handling 1080 HD or even 720. In fact, I'd say it looks better overall than the plasmas. I think for SDR with C7 or B7 the key is getting the picture mode settings dialed in just right. I've messed with a number of settings recommended by various folks on this thread as well as the C7/B7 calibration thread. At the end of the day, I concluded that I wasn't fan of those precise settings they each had but by using various aspects of them and tweaking here and there, I found what looked great to me for SDR. I use Technicolor Expert as my starting picture mode for SDR content and adjust from there. I'm still tweaking my 4K HDR and 4K DV picture mode settings. You might consider getting D-Nice or ChadB to calibrate your set if you feel you're really not getting what you want out of it.
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I'm trying to be careful what I double dip on. Saving Private Ryan looks great on the 65B7P upscaled from the BD so I'll likely skip it. Never owned Gladiator so that's definitely a candidate in UHD. This display does such a great job upscaling BDs, I think for me a lot of catalogue titles will depend on price to see if I double dip. This has already happened on Brendon Fraser's Mummy movies and The 5th Element.
Gladiator was a reference type disc back when I had my RPTV calibrated by Eliab from Avical can’t wait for the 4K HDR disc next month.
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^^^agreed, I can't wait to see that movie in HDR on the c7, hopefully the transfer is good.
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What are the recommended reference movies to use for 4K Dolby Vision and for 4K HDR to see how those two 4K standards should look using an ATV 4K streaming to my OLEDC7?
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What are the recommended reference movies to use for 4K Dolby Vision and for 4K HDR to see how those two 4K standards should look using an ATV 4K streaming to my OLEDC7?


Lots of posts here on what are good/bad discs..

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/465-hi...ted-often.html

Here is a list of demo scenes folks like:
http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=298414

Here is a list of peoples “best”.
http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=274533

Reference can mean many things to many people, so asking for “reference” you may get things you think look horrible and get things that look amazing.
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I screwed up..I purchased the B7 65 and especially enjoy it with xb 1x enhanced games etc but it will never handle 1080 HD (80% of the media) as well as a samsung plasma f8500 or the panasonic top 65 but... I was warned about this here *before I sold my plasma. My advice, wait for more 4k media if you own a plasma.

I got this OLED for NFL 4k which I'll have to pay for.
I'm still playing with some of the suggested calibration so I should have prefaced my comment with jury is still out..sorta, its getting better

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For Xbox One X and PS4 Pro HDR titles on the C7 are you guys running Dynamic Contrast on Low or OFF??

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So if i have DC off when using ps4 pro or one x am I not getting my HDR as I should?
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Game mode does NOT have active HDR on the 2017 models. Off is correct in my view
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Low is the best overall settings that I've seen, Bumps the brightness without impacting detail. Medium and above absolutely crushes details.

Off is "correct" but due to the firmware changes it's just too dim for my liking. Low all the way.
Both game mode and HDR game mode allow for changes to the dynamic contrast setting. Your TV will automatically switch to HDR game mode from game mode when it senses an HDR enabled game (it is a separate set of settings which you may want to change, this does not impact regular game mode settings).

From the LG calibration notes at http://www.lg.com/us/support-product...65C7P#manuals:
• During HDR calibration, disable ‘Active HDR*’ (self generated dynamic tone mapping) by setting the ‘Dynamic Contrast’ setting in the Expert
Picture Mode Settings to ‘Off’
• After calibration, for best results, re-enable ‘Active HDR*’ by setting the ‘Dynamic Contrast’ setting in the Expert Picture Mode Settings to ‘Low’

Control of the ‘Active HDR’ feature is found in the ‘Dynamic Contrast’ setting in the Expert Picture Settings menu. In HDR mode, the Dynamic Contrast settings are defined as follows:
• Off - Active HDR Disabled / Contrast Enhancement Disabled
• Low - Active HDR Enabled / Contrast Enhancement Disabled
• Medium - Active HDR Enabled / Contrast Enhancement Low
• High - Active HDR Enabled / Contrast Enhancement High
The default setting of ‘Low’ is recommended for accurate content reproduction.


I used the start screen from Destiny 2 just now (after the LG HDR symbol appears, and where Destiny wants you to press A for XBox). This is an off-white greyish-brown screen. Each step - Changing from off to low, low to medium, medium to high actually increases overall brightness.
Having DC set to low allows for HDR data to be used from the source but the TV does not add to it. When set to medium or high then the TV uses its algorithm to make changes.
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Low is the best overall settings that I've seen, Bumps the brightness without impacting detail. Medium and above absolutely crushes details.







Off is "correct" but due to the firmware changes it's just too dim for my liking. Low all the way.


Dim is relative to your viewing environment. It’s no dimmer than movies for me in my room which is very dark.

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2017 LG C7-B7 Owners' Thread (No Price Talk)

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Both game mode and HDR game mode allow for changes to the dynamic contrast setting. Your TV will automatically switch to HDR game mode from game mode when it senses an HDR enabled game (it is a separate set of settings which you may want to change, this does not impact regular game mode settings).




I used the start screen from Destiny 2 just now (after the LG HDR symbol appears, and where Destiny wants you to press A for XBox). This is an off-white greyish-brown screen. Each step - Changing from off to low, low to medium, medium to high actually increases overall brightness.

Having DC set to low allows for HDR data to be used from the source but the TV does not add to it. When set to medium or high then the TV uses its algorithm to make changes.


There is a loss in fine detail in highlights when using DC at all during games because the highlights blow out slightly. This is unavoidable and the detail loss is stronger with higher levels applied but how much it bothers you or how much you notice or are willing to put up with is very much a personal preference. A lot of it is room dependent. Do you have a dark room or are you stuck with windows that bring in light and have to have a brighter image to compensate.

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I never found universal good settings for Game HDR mode. I start a game with DC off. And if it seems too dim for me I change DC to medium and increase in-game brightness/gamma higher to compensate loss in details.
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Get over it- Go watch some TV.
I wonder why - have many of our members already sold their 7 series set and are moving to an 8?
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I wonder why - have many of our members already sold their 7 series set and are moving to an 8?


It’s nice outside, so forum activity lowers, the new models are out, so less “new” users. Also, unless someone has an issue or there is a new firmware not much to talk about. Happy owners tend to be quiet owners. Nothing really new with this cycle.
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Zero spoilers but Avengers Infinity War had nice Dolby Vision / Atmos logos at the end of the credits...can't wait for 4K Dolby Vision Disc! Probably Oct/Nov timeframe?

I saw it in a 4K Barco Laser theater (LA Live - 70 foot screen - where they do some US Premieres) but I definitely want to re-see it in a Dolby Cinema...with Vision and Atmos.

Our DD7.1 (non-Atmos?) audio was definitely immersive...but I feel like it could have been better. Weirdly enough, I swear I see banding on the 4K Laser projectors on white scenes...its subtle but I definitely notice some weirdness in certain scenes.

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It’s nice outside, so forum activity lowers, the new models are out, so less “new” users. Also, unless someone has an issue or there is a new firmware not much to talk about. Happy owners tend to be quiet owners. Nothing really new with this cycle.
Perhaps one new thing. I saw someone post that their new B7 had FW 4.70.85, but, I dunno where they reside, so maybe it's not for the USA.
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Perhaps one new thing. I saw someone post that their new B7 had FW 4.70.85, but, I dunno where they reside, so maybe it's not for the USA.


I believe they were international (outside of NA), so much less participation here.
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New owner here, getting B7A on Wednesday.

I've printed out sonoftumble's settings but I can't find the message that walked through the steps of putting those settings in.
My understanding is to play SDR, HDR, and DV content on the screen, then enter those settings for each. Is that correct?

What material should I use for each?

SDR - cable channel HD
HDR - Netflix?
DV - Netflix?

Thanks in advance.
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it's the new EU firmware.
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I have the newest firmware on my 55C7V (04.70.85), but Non-HDR videos on YouTube look washed out, any idea what this is about?
Same issue with some of Netflix movies but not all. It's really annoying, basically makes the TV worthless for movies/tv-shows. Does anyone have this issue?
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New owner here, getting B7A on Wednesday.

I've printed out sonoftumble's settings but I can't find the message that walked through the steps of putting those settings in.
My understanding is to play SDR, HDR, and DV content on the screen, then enter those settings for each. Is that correct?

What material should I use for each?

SDR - cable channel HD
HDR - Netflix?
DV - Netflix?

Thanks in advance.
Correct.

SDR -- anything. Cable, blu Ray, OTA. Almost everything is SDR

Dolby vision -- internal Netflix app. You need to sub to their 4k tier. Lost in space is in DV, among many others. Or a 4k disc with Dolby vision.

HDR -- internal YouTube app. Search for 4k HDR. Note that not all videos with HDR in the title is actually in HDR. You need to see the HDR banner pop up on the TV.
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Is God of War worth getting a PS4 Pro for 4k? I can get a PS4 slim for 220 or a PS4 Pro for 320 new at Target. I only want to play a few exclusives on PS4. Digital Foundry says they both look identical at 1080p.
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Internal Apps Status

Quick question for the Remote/UI-UX Gurus:

When using the internal apps (Netflix/Amazon) how do you confirm the TV is displaying 4K HDR. I know that DV will briefly flash at the top of the screen once the streaming starts - with the HDMI inputs you can use the remote's pointer and click the top of the screen - with the phone LG app you can hit the info button and it will display on the TV screen.

But once an internal streaming app has already started (you walk in the room late) how do you use the remote to verify if the stream is in 4K HDR without starting and stopping the streaming or breaking out your phone and using the LG app to display the info? Anyway to display the the info with the remote for internal streaming apps?

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