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Hi,

So I sent my pictures to Sony and within 10 minutes I receive a call that the 'technicians' had determined it to be burn in. I am sure it is not as it is same as Hugo above (and mirrors nothing I watch I am certain.)

I'm a month past warranty of course. I'm going to appeal it up the line at Sony as I can't accept a $2900 TV lasting 1 year!.

Any ideas help for me to get this remedied (preferably by Sony) would be greatly appreciated.

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Looks like that 25% window area from testing at the LGD factory before the panel had cooled properly. Causes the look up table to get it wrong when doing the pixel refresher dance stuff.

04/10/2018: We contacted LG regarding the strange results in week 4. LG engineers visited our lab a few days ago and were able to confirm the 25% window on the Live CNN and FIFA 18 TVs are a result of a factory issue (see our video here). OLED TVs are produced in a hot process, and after cooling a 25% window is shown on each panel. Some TVs which haven't cooled completely can produce invalid results for the lookup table used by the 'Pixel Refresh' function, causing this 25% window to become visible. Only some 55" OLED TVs were affected during part of 2017.

As this is not an issue with the panel itself, it is possible to apply a fix to the lookup table. LG will apply this fix to anyone who presents this issue to their support, for free, even after the warranty period has long expired. They have fixed our two affected TVs (see the uniformity photos below). Note that this doesn't fix other uniformity issues as the result of static content, only the 25% window caused by a factory defect. LG has also confirmed that there is variation between panels, which is why some OLED appear more prone to developing uniformity issues (as in the case with our Live CNN (200 nits) vs Live CNN (Max).)

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Thank you for saving me a year of complaints and calls. LG called my today right after the holidays and provided a replacement 65EF9500 panel. It's not ideal for me. I would prefer a cash credit for a QLED. But it's the best option available. I just hope it's not a panel that previously had vignetting and banding. My original panel was good for the generation except for white uniformity issues.
Glad to hear it! I certainly understand the not ideal scenario; I'd be similarly reticent to try again with the same thing that burned me previously, but frankly this is still great news! Keep us posted!

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Hey guys I’m buying a 65” A9F from Value Electronics and having them calibrate it. I’m planning on playing my PS4 on it, and would like some suggestions on settings to prevent burn-in. Thanks


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Make sure you get before and after calibration readings so you can see what it was out of the box and what the improvements were after calibrating.
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I would consider having the PS4 just for gaming. So it has it's own input. Buy a separate 4K player. That will allow you to drop the olight and color levels on the one input as a safeguard. And still have awesomeness for all other input/viewings.
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Glad to hear it! I certainly understand the not ideal scenario; I'd be similarly reticent to try again with the same thing that burned me previously, but frankly this is still great news! Keep us posted!
According to the weight on the tracking, LG sent an entire set. The service center said they will switch out the panel. I'm going to request to keep my original panel for backup. LG said that's between me and the service center. I guess the service center will sell the other parts.
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You should give panel breakn period before getting calibrated
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You should give panel breakn period before getting calibrated


Yes, Value Electronics runs the tv for a period of time to break the tv in before calibration and give a pre/post calibration report.


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I would consider having the PS4 just for gaming. So it has it's own input. Buy a separate 4K player. That will allow you to drop the olight and color levels on the one input as a safeguard. And still have awesomeness for all other input/viewings.


Yes I have an oppo for movies but my configuration currently has all units connected to my AVM60. I think I can have the calibrater set up the game picture mode for lower light settings

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Yes I have an oppo for movies but my configuration currently has all units connected to my AVM60. I think I can have the calibrater set up the game picture mode for lower light settings
Your AVM60 has dual HDMI output, yes? Just run a second output from the AVM60 to another input on the display. That way, you can have one display input set to your preferred video mode, and one input set to the game mode. Throw a smart remote into the mix, and you can have all of this take place seamlessly with a button press.

This is what I've done with my Denon x4300h. It's nice not to have to fumble around switching video modes for gaming.
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Your AVM60 has dual HDMI output, yes? Just run a second output from the AVM60 to another input on the display. That way, you can have one display input set to your preferred video mode, and one input set to the game mode. Throw a smart remote into the mix, and you can have all of this take place seamlessly with a button press.



This is what I've done with my Denon x4300h. It's nice not to have to fumble around switching video modes for gaming.


Unfortunately my hdmi is in the wall I can set the PS4 pro behind the tv. And run a hdmi directly to the tv and have ARC send audio to receiver. But that’s it.


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Purchased this 55C7 new in July, 2017 from Fry's Electronics. I bought a ST extended warranty and have two additional years through Citi Bank CC. The white line (banding?) appeared about one month outside of the manufacture's warranty. I understand that my extended warranties will not cover burn in. What about the white line on the screen? Any idea what the blob on the right side of the screen is? A similar blob appeared on the left side of the screen for the first time about a week ago. I immediately ran a pixel refresh, and it went away. I don't think it's image retention, as it doesn't look like anything I've watched. Should I contact ST about this? Or LG? Or am I just SOL (likely I assume).

Edit: Apparently I'm currently covered under Costco Concierge and would need to file any claim through them. Any experiences with Costco Concierge?
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It is not burn-in. It's some kind of panel deffect.
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It is not burn-in. It's some kind of panel deffect.
Yeah, like it was hit straight on by a water buffalo. (look carefully at the image) lol...
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Purchased this 55C7 new in July, 2017 from Fry's Electronics. I bought a ST extended warranty and have two additional years through Citi Bank CC. The white line (banding?) appeared about one month outside of the manufacture's warranty. I understand that my extended warranties will not cover burn in. What about the white line on the screen? Any idea what the blob on the right side of the screen is? A similar blob appeared on the left side of the screen for the first time about a week ago. I immediately ran a pixel refresh, and it went away. I don't think it's image retention, as it doesn't look like anything I've watched. Should I contact ST about this? Or LG? Or am I just SOL (likely I assume).

Edit: Apparently I'm currently covered under Costco Concierge and would need to file any claim through them. Any experiences with Costco Concierge?
What I find interesting is you were able to clear up the other side earlier on...so I'm lost as to what it could be.

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What I find interesting is you were able to clear up the other side earlier on...so I'm lost as to what it could be.
Update: Costco connected me with ST, as I did not purchase the TV from Costco. I put a claim in this morning over with phone with ST. We ran through a few basic tests (e.g., disconnecting all devices and running apps on the LG TV only, factory reset of settings, etc.). I was on the phone for about 15 minutes. Service rep agreed to move forward with the claim and sent me an email requesting photos. I immediately sent the photos and received an email a couple hours later informing me that I'd be receiving a replacement TV. The current offer is for a Samsung QN55Q8CAMFXZA. It's also clearly stated that any replacement TV will be new and not refurbished. After I received that email, I called to request a manual review, as the Samsung is not OLED (and it's also curved). I was told I had to wait 24 hours, as more options could be added over that time period. If after 24 hours it's still only the Samsung, I can call again to request different models (I plan to request a LG or Sony OLED).

While that Samsung is not what I'm looking for, I'm still pleased with the ST warranty process so far. Hopefully they make it right and offer a B/C8 or A8F. Or at least a Q8FN, as this whole experience has me questioning whether OLED is worth the hassle.
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I posted this in the 2016 C6-B6 owners thread and it was suggested I post here:


I have to say I've loved my B6 65" since purchasing it several years ago. Unfortunately last weekend I started to see a burn in from the Fox News station banner. My wife is retired and the set remains on 14+ hours a day, and I'm image Fox news is on for 3-4 of those hours, one hour or two in the AM and then repeat in the evening. The set currently has 9100 hours on it. In the past I had the tv set on ISF Bright as the TV is in a sunny room with a lot of windows. I've been running the Panel Noise program for a few nights this past week, but I can still see a faint image during lighter scenes. I've since turned down the tv setting to ISF Dark room, but I guess I'm just hoping the issue doesn't get worse to quickly. Any other suggestions to keep these from getting much worse?

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Well after a lengthy FaceBook chat with LG Service on their page, they put my issue through to their "OLED Panel Specialist Group."

Within 24 hours I had a case number. 10 days later I checked again, and the next day their OLED SPecialist called me and set up for an IN-HOME Technician visit.

Forty-eight hours later the local company called and they were out to see me the next day.

They had to call in to confirm, and they must have gotten ahold of the "new kid" because he was going by the book.., Said, "You know, IT'S OUT OF WARRANTY." And, "You shouldn't watch so much CNN, that's abuse."

Ha, ha. Since I already had a case number with an APN number he backed off.

Yesterday I got a brand new panel installed!!! A 2018 manufactured piece too!! (It took all of 15 minutes to swap the part.)

I think they did a really good job getting the replacement! The tech said he replaces a lot of these panels!

The moral of the story? DON'T TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER!!
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Great job! And by the way, this is potentially HUGELY important information. The facebook page!

I wonder if they're more reactive to the facebook page complaints because so many other people see the interaction?

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So yeah....3600 hours in and many hours of gameplay later I unfortunately have burn in. The culprit.....on board YouTube app. The yellow “search button” in the bottom right corner that pops up in the main menu or when you search through videos whilst your video plays. This certainly took me by surprise considering the hours spent gaming on this tv. Even if the tv is left idle on YouTube’s main page the screensaver engages so be careful.


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So yeah....3600 hours in and many hours of gameplay later I unfortunately have burn in. The culprit.....on board YouTube app. The yellow “search button” in the bottom right corner that pops up in the main menu or when you search through videos whilst your video plays. This certainly took me by surprise considering the hours spent gaming on this tv. Even if the tv is left idle on YouTube’s main page the screensaver engages so be careful.


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What model is this?

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Copy/paste from the 2018 LG OLED65C8PUA owners manual, PDF file... file:///home/chronos/u-28787aca0c8a2f4d4242fe1c6a6ee6e7d03f57bf/Downloads/MFL70301502_1.0+MFL70320402_1.0+RS%20(1).pdf

Examples of Images that may Cause
Image Retention


•  Still images or fixed images containing certain information
that are displayed uninterrupted on the screen, such as channel
numbers, station logos, program titles, news or movie subtitles,
and headlines.

•  Fixed menu or icons for video game consoles or broadcasting
set-top boxes.

•  Black bars shown on the left, right, top, or bottom of the screen,
such as in images with a 4:3 or 21:9 ratio.

Recommended Measures for
Preventing Image Retention


•  Avoid watching a video displaying an image as listed above for
extended periods of time.


•  Adjust your TV settings as below when turning on a video
exhibiting an image as listed above for extended periods of time.
- Picture Picture Mode Settings Picture Mode APS
- Picture Picture Mode Settings OLED LIGHT Adjust
to lower value
- Picture OLED Panel Settings Logo Luminance
Adjustment High

•  Turn off the menu bar of an external device, such as a set-top
box, to prevent long-term display of the menu bar of such device.
(Please refer to the manual of the applicable external device for
instructions.)

•  Adjust the settings as below when watching a video constantly
showing black bars on the left, right, top or bottom, in order to
remove the black bars
- Picture Aspect Ratio Settings Aspect Ratio
Vertical Zoom or All-Direction Zoom



Does not sound like such a ridiculous idea to me. Safety should always be job one


What do you think LG means by "extended periods of time?"


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Oled65g6p watched tons of MSNBC since trump, multiple hours. It burned in the red yellow and orange peacock feathers and the red outline of the breaking news block all red. The blue purple and green feathers showed no burn in. So you only need to watch out for static red yellow and orange. Now where the red, yellow and orange feathers were the pixels show a faded smudge.

We got similar burn-in from the peacock logo on our B6. Logo aside, other colors have been reported to burn-in as well, but it takes longer. Rtings first burn-in test involving a B6 has proven this - that the various colors burn-in at different rates.

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Yes you should, because you cannot combat what someone actually experienced in real life. Saying that tire blowouts are exceedingly rare doesn't in any way invalidate the blowout that someone experienced. Even when the person says "These tires suck! They blowout!", it shouldn't be up to anyone here to prove to the person that his tires don't suck, and it does no good to point out all the other people who didn't experience blowouts.


No, it's absolutely defensiveness. And entirely misplaced, especially in this thread.

Science?

Go back a couple pages where this latest scuffle began. @plonk put it exactly right. There's a very large (and growing) set of assumptions here about how safe OLED is from IR/BI, and please always keep in mind:

1. LG doesn't sell you a TV that says "use with kid gloves". And,
2. LG doesn't put "Just don't watch CNN for too long" on the box.

These things are sold as the best thing since sliced bread. Further, @firewalkerz also put it perfectly here.

This thread should be inviting people to show their problems with OLED. It should not be the pounce-on-complainers thread, nor is it the "show the complainers they must be wrong because of others' sucess" thread.

It's just wrong, and people need to back TF off from people posting here with complaints.
Catching up on AVS after a few months off and seeing that even with me out of the picture, not much has changed. Had to comment on this post and say how smart and on-point it is. Us OLED burn-in victims are tired of being accused of "overblowing" the issue or stating that "every OLED will get BI" when we're doing nothing of the sort, except for maybe a post here or there. In that case, quote him/her and point out the hyperbole, instead of all these repetitive, generalized posts about how the issue is "overblown" (subjective) or "rare" (undefined) or how you're just providing "balance" to the other side. You all already provided the "balance" when you posted about how you use your TVs and have no burn-in. The attacks, dismissive, and defensive generalized posts don't provide any balance, only friction, so please stop.
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Catching up on AVS after a few months off and seeing that even with me out of the picture, not much has changed. Had to comment on this post and say how smart and on-point it is. Us OLED burn-in victims are tired of being accused of "overblowing" the issue or stating that "every OLED will get BI" when we're doing nothing of the sort, except for maybe a post here or there. In that case, quote him/her and point out the hyperbole, instead of all these repetitive, generalized posts about how the issue is "overblown" (subjective) or "rare" (undefined) or how you're just providing "balance" to the other side. You all already provided the "balance" when you posted about how you use your TVs and have no burn-in. The attacks, dismissive, and defensive generalized posts don't provide any balance, only friction, so please stop.
Perfectly said.
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Catching up on AVS after a few months off and seeing that even with me out of the picture, not much has changed. Had to comment on this post and say how smart and on-point it is. Us OLED burn-in victims are tired of being accused of "overblowing" the issue or stating that "every OLED will get BI" when we're doing nothing of the sort, except for maybe a post here or there. In that case, quote him/her and point out the hyperbole, instead of all these repetitive, generalized posts about how the issue is "overblown" (subjective) or "rare" (undefined) or how you're just providing "balance" to the other side. You all already provided the "balance" when you posted about how you use your TVs and have no burn-in. The attacks, dismissive, and defensive generalized posts don't provide any balance, only friction, so please stop.


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Perfectly said.
Is there a running total of how many victims are in this thread?

I've never accused anyone of "overblowing" the issue or stating that "every OLED will get BI" but it does seem to me to be the first question people ask about these panels here at AVS. I'd love to know the actually percentage of owners that end up with BI on their panel. I'd wager a good sum of money that it's less than 5% worldwide. I really think you guys are just unlucky and that is unfortunate.

BI is something I am not worried about in the slightest because my viewing habits say it isn't gonna happen. If I ever end up with BI feeding my TV a diet that consists of about 90% full/widescreen movies over the last 2000 hours I'll be back to eat my words.

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Is this thread for sony master series oleds? why is the thread title saying master oled burn in thread?

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Is this thread for sony master series oleds? why is the thread title saying master oled burn in thread?
It means "master" in the sense of all-inclusive or covering all models. It's not just for the Sony Master series.

There are typically a number of threads on AVS Forum with the use of the world "master" in the title to denote that it is intended to be all-inclusive or overarching.

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https://www.avsforum.com/forum/465-h...ted-often.html

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What do you think LG means by "extended periods of time?"





We got similar burn-in from the peacock logo on our B6. Logo aside, other colors have been reported to burn-in as well, but it takes longer. Rtings first burn-in test involving a B6 has proven this - that the various colors burn-in at different rates.
It means...if you got BI you are guilty of not following their instructions and it's your fault. Does not matter if you watched CNN 5 minutes a day for only 5 days and bang. Your fault. Got proof you didn't watch it more?

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It means...if you got BI you are guilty of not following their instructions and it's your fault. Does not matter if you watched CNN 5 minutes a day for only 5 days and bang. Your fault. Got proof you didn't watch it more?
I assume that's tongue in cheek.
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I assume that's tongue in cheek.
Lol, yep. They can flex the meaning to fit the situation...undefined.

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