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post #4171 of 7584 Old 02-16-2018, 08:58 PM
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Are the DV titles you are trying to play through the 4K ATV titles that you bought through iTunes? The library that came over from Vudu that was shared across to iTunes via Movies anywhere show they are 4K DV titles, but appear to only play at 1080p with no HDR. Anything I have bought or rented on the ATV directly comes through in all the glory of 4K DV.
Gah - this is it. I have a ton of content via Movies Anywhere/Amazon and I was super excited to see the DV logo. I'm disappointed - Apple needs to fix their UI to make the difference between quality of what you have/the title itself clear

Thank you so much. Looks like I should start buying Movies Anywhere titles on the ATV instead.
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My atv4k has become somewhat unstable after the beta, I have to restart it daily
I was surprised how many people rushed to load the beta firmware, Apple even warns they're not responsible if it bricks your ATV.
Yeah you're right; but for $150 I didn't mind too much if I bricked it ... will the official update overwrite the beta when it's official?

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Yeah you're right; but for $150 I didn't mind too much if I bricked it ... will the official update overwrite the beta when it's official?
Yes it will just update to the official release, though in my experience with the betas, you will be on iOS beta 1.4 before too much time on the stable 1.3 release, so you may want to keep up with the iOS release news and switch off beta updates as soon as 1.3 goes live, or you can just do what I do and let the betas roll. Sometimes I am pleasantly surprised, other times unpleasantly.

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Yeah, the OP might wanna research how LG has like 5 models and most have the same performance.

People always fall for new = better when facts point to = same. The only thing the 2018 LG's bring that we know of is better video processing because they are trying to catch up with Sony, who has nothing to improve until the X1 ultimate comes out. So what is Sony going to do with the same panel and same chip?

If you note the LCD models like the 940 and ZD9 arent being replaced yet either. This year is a holdover for Sony, because the displays are so good until their new chip is out.

I agree, the LG's are nowhere near Sony's performance, like i said earlier, i own an LG OLED, the EC9300 and its motion processing leaves ALOT to be desired but i got it back when it came up several years ago and it was the first OLED on the market and it blew the LCD competition away in regards to black levels, Colors etc so it was a worthy purchase, Now that there are other players in the OLED scene i definitely wont be going with LG again but instead ill be getting a SONY OLED, I want my TV purchase this year to be as future proof as possible.

i know theres an upcoming panasonic OLED, what could they possibly do to outscore the A1E/A8F? brighter panel? i doubt they'll have better processing than the SONY right?

As far as the A1E / A8F are concerned, Is the Panel going to be IDENTICIAL? Should i expect to get a better deal on the A1E or the A8F when purchasing my Sony OLED this coming July? The A1E is a year old model by now so it should be available at a discount at most retailers while the A8F will be considered as a new model and will keep its price close to it's MSRP right for at least several months right?

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Same experience here. I gave up because it was so unreliable and just stuck an IR emitter in front of the set.
Actually, I think maybe I've found the solution (thanks to Reddit). Under home network, there is a setting called "simple IP control". If that is turned on, it seems to hold the ip address even on standby and the harmony works (at least so far for me).
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Gah - this is it. I have a ton of content via Movies Anywhere/Amazon and I was super excited to see the DV logo. I'm disappointed - Apple needs to fix their UI to make the difference between quality of what you have/the title itself clear

Thank you so much. Looks like I should start buying Movies Anywhere titles on the ATV instead.
Yes this is definitely a problem with Movies Anywhere/VUDU/Amazon/Apple iTunes-Movies......Every redeem should transfer between the retailers.

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I agree, the LG's are nowhere near Sony's performance, like i said earlier, i own an LG OLED, the EC9300 and its motion processing leaves ALOT to be desired but i got it back when it came up several years ago and it was the first OLED on the market and it blew the LCD competition away in regards to black levels, Colors etc so it was a worthy purchase, Now that there are other players in the OLED scene i definitely wont be going with LG again but instead ill be getting a SONY OLED, I want my TV purchase this year to be as future proof as possible.

i know theres an upcoming panasonic OLED, what could they possibly do to outscore the A1E/A8F? brighter panel? i doubt they'll have better processing than the SONY right?

As far as the A1E / A8F are concerned, Is the Panel going to be IDENTICIAL? Should i expect to get a better deal on the A1E or the A8F when purchasing my Sony OLED this coming July? The A1E is a year old model by now so it should be available at a discount at most retailers while the A8F will be considered as a new model and will keep its price close to it's MSRP right for at least several months right?
I wouldn't count my chickens on a Panny OLED in the US. The 2018 Sony is $500 more right now at launch in April, but the A1E is also on sale. I'd be surprised if they don't run the same price. The A1E also has a 77", where the normal stand model only has 55 and 65.

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As far as the A1E / A8F are concerned, Is the Panel going to be IDENTICAL?
From what it seems from CES the AF8 has the new 2018 LG panels that have bigger pixels, so lets wait a bit because this seem promising as matter the overall pixel level or for less burn-in level.
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From what it seems from CES the AF8 has the new 2018 LG panels that have bigger pixels, so lets wait a bit because this seem promising as matter the overall pixel level or for less burn-in level.
Reminder this is an owners only thread, there's another A1E thread for non owners to discuss the A1E.
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Thats for sure, we been hearing about a US model for 5 years now, but maybe this is the year.....
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Let me summarize:

Lg is same as Sony

No Sony is better

Ok Sony is better

Where's Dolby vision

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Ok Dolby vision is ok and works with atv
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Let me summarize:

Lg is same as Sony

No Sony is better

Ok Sony is better

Where's Dolby vision

Oh, there it is, got the update

Wait, update sux ... be patient

Ok Dolby vision is ok and works with atv
Need to wait for other brands to add firmware

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Thanks, Peter! I think I'm OK to just continue from here then.
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Not that convoluted.

As an ex LG owner, the A1E is better than an LG.

The DV update is fine, works with internal apps and the ATV, other source devices (Like Oppo) need to update to the newest version which is coming in a couple of months (As stated by Dnice a few posts above).

If you aren't calibrating, use Cinema Pro for SDR and HDR.
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I will be an official owner as of Monday night, thought I would check in and say hello. Looking forward to getting my set, I have missed OLED and am excited to be back in the ownership club.
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I will be an official owner as of Monday night, thought I would check in and say hello. Looking forward to getting my set, I have missed OLED and am excited to be back in the ownership club.
Watch out, 940E owners are moving in LOL.
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Question The Video Port

Help! I'm trying to get the video input to work off of my ES Receiver. I purchased these bad boys https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XDZ5MF2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 but still no video from my connected DVD VCR combo.Just wanted to see what the video would look like.
thanks in advance. Did a google search on-line, and did a search using "input and video". Or do I need a different connector. This seems to line up from what the manual stated I needed.



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Not that convoluted.

As an ex LG owner, the A1E is better than an LG.

The DV update is fine, works with internal apps and the ATV, other source devices (Like Oppo) need to update to the newest version which is coming in a couple of months (As stated by Dnice a few posts above).

If you aren't calibrating, use Cinema Pro for SDR and HDR.
It’s funny, people have to really test it at home to see how amazing the A1E is.

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Found a crazy deal on a 55” E7P and it works a lot better then my previous computer monitor but when put side to side, my A1E is a much more enjoyable TV.
I'd be way too paranoid to use an OLED as a computer monitor.

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Help! I'm trying to get the video input to work off of my ES Receiver. I purchased these bad boys https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XDZ5MF2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 but still no video from my connected DVD VCR combo.Just wanted to see what the video would look like.
thanks in advance. Did a google search on-line, and did a search using "input and video". Or do I need a different connector. This seems to line up from what the manual stated I needed.

Well the search criteria I used was wrong, should have searched "Composite" in stead of Video Inputs. Saw this discussion thread https://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-ole...l#post55593656
And got to thinking, maybe I have an old Sony Cybershot/Camcorder cable laying around. I was stuck on a female connection to use the same cable in the past off of my receiver. I brought over my 19" Sony LCD TV to confirm if the cable was working and it is.
Next I plugged in my old (very old) camera cable and Wa-La! It works! Lesson learned, stick with a Sony compatible cable adaptor for this TV.

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I'd be way too paranoid to use an OLED as a computer monitor.
Yeah I could never bring myself to use a 55 A1E as a computer monitor but my E7P was so cheap that I decided to risk it.

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Let me summarize:

Lg is same as Sony

No Sony is better

Ok Sony is better

Where's Dolby vision

Oh, there it is, got the update

Wait, update sux ... be patient

Ok Dolby vision is ok and works with atv
Need to wait for other brands to add firmware

Lots of setting recommendations
LOL, great summary! Nail-Head

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Got a UHD/HDR flick down last night, The Dark Knight. Armored car chase chapter in HDR on an OLED is pretty darn good. The fire and lights really stand out against the black, and the overhead night shot of the city before Dent's fundraiser was pretty sweet too.
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I forgot to mention. You were saying in a post that periodically you get your sets calibrated because they drift. I can tell you with my A1E the way i calibrated it as i did yours, even after 9 months when i checked it, it drifted very slightly. DeltaE was still under 1. If you spend the time to get the errors as small as possible, as the set ages, it's going to take a long time for you to actually see changes due to the calibration. The Sony's, at least in my experience are very stable.
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I forgot to mention. You were saying in a post that periodically you get your sets calibrated because they drift. I can tell you with my A1E the way i calibrated it as i did yours, even after 9 months when i checked it, it drifted very slightly. DeltaE was still under 1. If you spend the time to get the errors as small as possible, as the set ages, it's going to take a long time for you to actually see changes due to the calibration. The Sony's, at least in my experience are very stable.
Good to hear. I generally shoot for every 12 months just because some OCD kicks in LOL. I think we have generally done about 2000-2500 hours a year over time.

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Help! I'm trying to get the video input to work off of my ES Receiver. I purchased these bad boys https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XDZ5MF2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 but still no video from my connected DVD VCR combo.Just wanted to see what the video would look like.
thanks in advance. Did a google search on-line, and did a search using "input and video". Or do I need a different connector. This seems to line up from what the manual stated I needed.

Unfortunately you need a cable that specifically supports Sony as some generic cables don't have the correct wiring or the pin is too long. I don't have a link to one that will work at this time.

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I just installed a google chromecast ultra and the 4K hdr is great when watching on YouTube. Missed this on the internal app. My issue is Dolby vision with Netflix. I am getting like a purple screen (the people, background, etc) when using the google chromecast ultra to watch. Is this because the hdmi Dolby vision issue has not been fixed with a upgrade to chromecast ultra yet? The input I am using is input 3 (arc), could that have something to do with it? Has anyone else with a chromecast ultra gotten Dolby vision to work yet?

Also I see two settings in the chromecast ultra settings screen, should I turn these on:

1) 50hz hdmi mode
2) video smoothness

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I just installed a google chromecast ultra and the 4K hdr is great when watching on YouTube. Missed this on the internal app. My issue is Dolby vision with Netflix. I am getting like a purple screen (the people, background, etc) when using the google chromecast ultra to watch. Is this because the hdmi Dolby vision issue has not been fixed with a upgrade to chromecast ultra yet? The input I am using is input 3 (arc), could that have something to do with it? Has anyone else with a chromecast ultra gotten Dolby vision to work yet?

Also I see two settings in the chromecast ultra settings screen, should I turn these on:

1) 50hz hdmi mode
2) video smoothness
You are seeing the same thing I am with my CCU. I suggest you submit feedback to Google (being as clear as possible) so that they update the CCU with the necessary DV profile. As a workaround, I am using the A1E's internal Netflix app with the audio run from the display to my AVR via a digital optical cable (I can't get the ARC to work).

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You are seeing the same thing I am with my CCU. I suggest you submit feedback to Google (being as clear as possible) so that they update the CCU with the necessary DV profile. As a workaround, I am using the A1E's internal Netflix app with the audio run from the display to my AVR via a digital optical cable (I can't get the ARC to work).
Do you know how I can submit to google to voice my opinion. Is there a specific website to go to
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