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I am going to continue to write here because I am 99% chance going to grab the A1 next weekend.

I have never owned a TV of this calibre before, is there anything step by step guide what to think about and setting it up properly? I obviously know the caretaking parts as they are similar to that of a plasma I guess.
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People can say or believe what they want when if comes to the A1E and other OLEDs... but play Prometheus or Arrival
I agree, there is only one series in the present or past that is even close and that would be the Z9D, otherwise no other set stands a chance.
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I am not sure if anyone has experienced this before, but my Z9D became possessed last night. It kept changing inputs and opening different apps and I was unable to turn it off or with the remote. After about 1/2 hour of trying to turn it off I finally pulled the plug. It booted up, but was extremely sluggish afterwards. It seems to be ok now, but that was a very odd experience.
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Damn... I posted in the wrong thread. I have the Z9D.
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Yes, but this ghosts name was pkeegan and quoted me out of another thread.
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People can say or believe what they want when if comes to the A1E and other OLEDs... but play Prometheus or Arrival, with the settings in my signature, there is nothing that can beat that PQ.. Prometheus on the A1E makes me shake my head and remember the times when people would buy 1080p TVs and plug a HDMI inclusive Blu-ray player or digital cable box into it with a yellow RCA video cable..

The A1E with just SDR content is today's yellow RCA cable... the full capability of the TV just can't be seen without investing in 4K UHD and an OPPO 203 + premium HDMI cable.
One other film Al which I feel is overlooked is “Risen”, w/Great natural colors & blacks that simply go way beyond anyone’s imagination.

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One other film Al which I feel is overlooked is “Risen”, w/Great natural colors & blacks that simply go way beyond anyone’s imagination.
I have to watch Risen again on the A1E, I got that one before I purchased the A1E.
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I was hoping someone would check out the opening minutes of "The Confession Tapes" (Netflix) on their A1E and tell me if they see any of what I am seeing.

The show appears to be mastered to where the blacks are near-black, for instance on title screens where there is white lettering on a dark background it is more gray than black (similar to a 5% or 10% grey screen). Either that or it is a setting thing on my display.

I am getting these brighter bands, both vertically and horizontally completely across the screen, that seem to emanate from the lettering. This seems weird to me given that each pixel is supposed to be self-illuminating. I have a particular band going down the middle of the screen (again, right through whatever the title text displayed is) that is about 3" wide. On the first episode I also noticed the same thick band in the early minutes of the show where there were exterior night shots of a home.

I haven't seen this in other material and have generally been very pleased with my panel lottery outcome, until this made a bit nervous.

Edit: this was on the internal Android TV Netflix app

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In a similar vein I was watching episode 1 of the new Star Trek discovery series last night on the internal netflix app. My Netflix subscription is the middle tier 2 devices at full hd resolution.

There were a few times early in the show when the screen changed from its vivid colours to dull for a few seconds then back. Almost as if the stream was changing between hdr and sdr then back again.

I'm not sure if there is a way to get the tv to report the type of image it is receiving whilst using the internal netflix app. By pressing the info button it bring ups the netflix stream info in the top left but it would be nice to be able to see what the tv itself thinks it is receiving.


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I was hoping someone would check out the opening minutes of "The Confession Tapes" (Netflix) on their A1E and tell me if they see any of what I am seeing.

The show appears to be mastered to where the blacks are near-black, for instance on title screens where there is white lettering on a dark background it is more gray than black (similar to a 5% or 10% grey screen). Either that or it is a setting thing on my display.

I am getting these brighter bands, both vertically and horizontally completely across the screen, that seem to emanate from the lettering. This seems weird to me given that each pixel is supposed to be self-illuminating. I have a particular band going down the middle of the screen (again, right through whatever the title text displayed is) that is about 3" wide. On the first episode I also noticed the same thick band in the early minutes of the show where there were exterior night shots of a home.

I haven't seen this in other material and have generally been very pleased with my panel lottery outcome, until this made a bit nervous.

Edit: this was on the internal Android TV Netflix app
I just checked it out. At least the few minutes I looked at, the show seems to have no deep blacks.

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I was hoping someone would check out the opening minutes of "The Confession Tapes" (Netflix) on their A1E and tell me if they see any of what I am seeing.

The show appears to be mastered to where the blacks are near-black, for instance on title screens where there is white lettering on a dark background it is more gray than black (similar to a 5% or 10% grey screen). Either that or it is a setting thing on my display.

I am getting these brighter bands, both vertically and horizontally completely across the screen, that seem to emanate from the lettering. This seems weird to me given that each pixel is supposed to be self-illuminating. I have a particular band going down the middle of the screen (again, right through whatever the title text displayed is) that is about 3" wide. On the first episode I also noticed the same thick band in the early minutes of the show where there were exterior night shots of a home.

I haven't seen this in other material and have generally been very pleased with my panel lottery outcome, until this made a bit nervous.

Edit: this was on the internal Android TV Netflix app
Viking; Feel the grey screen is normal production video. Watched the first 15mins & all looks terrific. No vertical or horizontal banding whatsoever. BTW, from the internal Netflix app. Good Luck!
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In a similar vein I was watching episode 1 of the new Star Trek discovery series last night on the internal netflix app. My Netflix subscription is the middle tier 2 devices at full hd resolution.

There were a few times early in the show when the screen changed from its vivid colours to dull for a few seconds then back. Almost as if the stream was changing between hdr and sdr then back again.

I'm not sure if there is a way to get the tv to report the type of image it is receiving whilst using the internal netflix app. By pressing the info button it bring ups the netflix stream info in the top left but it would be nice to be able to see what the tv itself thinks it is receiving.


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How were you watching the NEW Star Trek Discovery on Netflix? I thought it was only on CBS All Access after the first episode?

That said, when I loaded CBS All Access, everything works except live TV. When you click on settings to reveal your location, it just spins. Anyone else notice this? When I go online to CBS All Access, I can see live tv no problem.
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How were you watching the NEW Star Trek Discovery on Netflix? I thought it was only on CBS All Access after the first episode?



That said, when I loaded CBS All Access, everything works except live TV. When you click on settings to reveal your location, it just spins. Anyone else notice this? When I go online to CBS All Access, I can see live tv no problem.


Ah. I'm not in the USA. In USA Star Trek discovery is exclusive to cbs all access.

Everywhere else around the world it is netflix exclusive and being marketed as a netflix original. I am in Australia. This is one of the rare situations where our netflix library is better than the USA. Mostly we have a limited subset of the USA netflix Library hence why people here use VPNs


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I just checked it out. At least the few minutes I looked at, the show seems to have no deep blacks.
Thanks, I more or less knew the lack-of-black was inherent to the material, but I was getting weird banding that seemed related to the lighter elements on the screen (i.e. white text on near-black background).

Will try to capture it on photo when I get a chance.

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Thanks, I more or less knew the lack-of-black was inherent to the material, but I was getting weird banding that seemed related to the lighter elements on the screen (i.e. white text on near-black background).

Will try to capture it on photo when I get a chance.
So you’re not seeing typical uniformity banding? Interested in seeing a pic.

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How were you watching the NEW Star Trek Discovery on Netflix? I thought it was only on CBS All Access after the first episode?

That said, when I loaded CBS All Access, everything works except live TV. When you click on settings to reveal your location, it just spins. Anyone else notice this? When I go online to CBS All Access, I can see live tv no problem.
In Germany we also have Star Trek Discovery on Netflix since yesterday.
We do not have the recent season of House of Cards however since it is shown by sky (even though it is a Netflix original).
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Yep Star Trek discovery is ok netflix everywhere in the world except USA and Canada I believe


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Ah. I'm not in the USA. In USA Star Trek discovery is exclusive to cbs all access.

Everywhere else around the world it is netflix exclusive and being marketed as a netflix original. I am in Australia. This is one of the rare situations where our netflix library is better than the USA. Mostly we have a limited subset of the USA netflix Library hence why people here use VPNs
Well outside US and Canada it is on netflix. In Canada it is on Space meaning we have to watch it from an actual TV channel.
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Does the A1E show an 4K or HDR sign when playing a movie on Apple TV 4K like LG OLED’s?
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What do you guys think are the chances of Sony pulling the rug from underneath us and saying no Dolby Vision for this set. Wait for our 2018 models!
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Very unlikely given it is listed in the official specs.

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Does the A1E show an 4K or HDR sign when playing a movie on Apple TV 4K like LG OLED’s?
You will only see the HDR sign when looking at the picture settings, if the current signal is HDR.
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What do you guys think are the chances of Sony pulling the rug from underneath us and saying no Dolby Vision for this set. Wait for our 2018 models!
I've never known any TV manufacture to make a hard promise as part of the sales marketing of a product, then do that kind of bait-and-switch.

After watching The Purge (part 1) 4K UHD, I'm ready to buy 2-3 more A1E's for storage and crack open a new one every 5-7 years.

I just don't see how TV PQ can ever expect to improve and I don't believe it will happen... So the A1E having Dolby Vision capability would really take me over the top of never feeling compelled by another TV at least in my lifetime...

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I've never known any TV manufacture to make a hard promise as part of the sales marketing of a product, then do that kind of bait-and-switch.

After watching The Purge (part 1) 4K UHD, I'm ready to buy 2-3 more A1E's for storage and crack open a new one every 5-7 years.

I just don't see how TV PQ can ever expect to improve and I don't believe it will happen... So the A1E having Dolby Vision capability would really take me over the top of never feeling compelled by another TV at least in my lifetime...

Projector is a different story though...
LOL! Five years could mean a lot in terms of picture quality not to mention maybe having a TV without banding.

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LOL! Five years could mean a lot in terms of picture quality not to mention maybe having a TV without banding.
I don't believe PQ can get better from a TV with a screen.. I've never seen anything handle black levels the way the A1E handled The Purge 4K UHD (on my signature settings, OPPO 203 on Source Direct).. That viewing experience sealed my viewing fate..

8K is a bust as 4K is already a hard sell to most consumers over 1080p...

The cameras that shoot content and the editing stations that create FX and finalize films are only capable of producing at top what we've already seen in the past 10 years from IMAX down to the home entertainment today...

VR and holographic devices aside.. as for a TV screen, there's nothing as a technologist I see visually improving on the A1E.. The only thing will be mico-LED and all that is going to do is elevate LED to OLED performance and brightness claims no one in a dark room critical viewing environment will ever want to go blind over.

The next OLED model we'll see will be a see through translucent model:



We'll see gimmicks, but not anything better IMO.

Leonardo da Vinci painted only 1 Mona Lisa... Sony should make the A1E its only OLED... Whatever unexpected benefits that has resulted in what the few of us see in the A1E performance, I'm sure will get botched up and destroyed in follow up attempts at a future Sony OLED..

I'll do a laser projector, looking at the 5000es or 885es.. but as for TV, I don't believe I'll see another TV on the full level of performance as the A1E...

Even if they release one, I won't care.
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