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Hmm, sounds like you can only resist a new TV for so long. Remember, no 3D.

Have any interest in any of Samsung's new FALD displays. I wonder if their hype will last any longer than it did last year.
No interest at all. My 65C6P gives me all the brighness I need and with each passing year that brings more HDR/Dolby Vision and less 3D into our living room, I get more ready to give up the best 3D ever forprime/time HDR/Dolby Vision (the 65C6P does pretty well, but I know I'm leavibg some HDR PQ on the table .

I'm also expecting LG to price the 77C8 far more aggresdively than most are assuming by November, so if near-black uniformity looks as though it's at least back to 2016 levels and that priciing prediction comes true, it might be time for an upgrade.

I got a smokin' deal on my 65C6P (under $2000 all-in), so I've still got some dry powder for when the time is right...
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I'm gonna be chomping at the bit for that 77!
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The 77C gives me hope for a couple years from now when I might be thinking of an upgrade, that pricing will be even lower for those sizes.

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Just saw a picture of the b8, looks exactly like the C7 to me?
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No interest at all. My 65C6P gives me all the brighness I need and with each passing year that brings more HDR/Dolby Vision and less 3D into our living room, I get more ready to give up the best 3D ever forprime/time HDR/Dolby Vision (the 65C6P does pretty well, but I know I'm leavibg some HDR PQ on the table .

I'm also expecting LG to price the 77C8 far more aggresdively than most are assuming by November, so if near-black uniformity looks as though it's at least back to 2016 levels and that priciing prediction comes true, it might be time for an upgrade.

I got a smokin' deal on my 65C6P (under $2000 all-in), so I've still got some dry powder for when the time is right...
2016 levels for 77" aren't that great uniformity-wise in the 4 panels I've seen (mine plus 3 shared here), so I would be careful what you wish for. In fact, as for that size, 2017 holds the cleanest I've seen interestingly enough (both Ken Ross's G7 and a more recent A1E). After moving up to 77", I'm even less willing to give up 3D. Unfortunately, the vertical bands spoil the experience more than they should for a TV of this price.
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2016 levels for 77" aren't that great uniformity-wise in the 4 panels I've seen (mine plus 3 shared here), so I would be careful what you wish for. In fact, as for that size, 2017 holds the cleanest I've seen interestingly enough (both Ken Ross's G7 and a more recent A1E). After moving up to 77", I'm even less willing to give up 3D. Unfortunately, the vertical bands spoil the experience more than they should for a TV of this price.
I'll have to admit I was only focused on 65" uniformity and didn't spend much effort tracking 77" uniformity.

I'd prefer a 65" with the uniformity I have now over a 77" with poorer near-black uniformity, so I guess it'll just be a question of getting early owners to share their experience and maje a decision basec in those results.

I would not take a 77" screen with the average unuformity I've seen in 65" 2017 WOLEDs iver the oreety-decent 65C6P screen I have now...
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The rOLED is also a 21:9 screen:

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LG and HDR10+

Has LG said anything about HDR10+? Now that Panasonic has it in their TV's it confirms it is possible without HDMI 2.1. LG should be able to update their TV's with HDR10+ support.
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Has LG said anything about HDR10+? Now that Panasonic has it in their TV's it confirms it is possible without HDMI 2.1. LG should be able to update their TV's with HDR10+ support.
Yes that their not supporting it because they have the adaptive function. Check Vincent video from CES and AVForums interview with the UK head on YouTube.
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Yes that their not supporting it because they have the adaptive function. Check Vincent video from CES and AVForums interview with the UK head on YouTube.
A few years ago, Sharp was marketing a 90 inch LCD that initially went for about $10,000, before the price eventually dropped to about $6,500, not too long before the TV was phased out altogether.

Does anyone have info regarding when a 90 inch (or larger) OLED might become available, and roughly what such a large flat panel would cost?


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A few years ago, Sharp was marketing a 90 inch LCD that initially went for about $10,000, before the price eventually dropped to about $6,500, not too long before the TV was phased out altogether.

Does anyone have info regarding when a 90 inch (or larger) OLED might become available, and roughly what such a large flat panel would cost?


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We'll probably see the first 88" product announced in 2019, possibly 4K rather than 8K. LG's roadmap shows 88" 8K in 2019-2020...

A safe guess on initial pricibg would be at least double whatever the price for the 77" flagship is by then.
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Anyone seen these at CES yet? Im curious how image retention is. In fact anyone know 2017s image retention? I ask because I'm at 5,000 hours on a calibrated 2016 E6, and after every widescreen movie we watch, you can see a distinct line where the black bars are until the cycle runs naturally. Drives me nuts lol. Also, hopefully near black noise is cleaned up with the new models, sounds like it should be!
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From 2013-2016, that kind of letterbox image retention has been part and parcel to ownership of WOLED. That likely continues through 2017 and 2018 since the same base panels are in use.
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Well right now the current ones are giving the race to the Sony 9 series and winning the shootouts. Those 1,200 Oled will come soon or later.

The Z are great displays ,no doubt. But they aren't as good as Oled in a dark environment.
Question. So, in a dark environment, the better choice would be an LG OLED?

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Question. So, in a dark environment, the better choice would be an LG OLED?

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Oled have better PQ in a dark environment ,But if you are going larger than 65" and can't afford the Oled 77" then the 75" Z9 will be the best option. If you aren't sensitive to blooming/halo then go for the LCD. The problem is that HDR exacerbate this artifacts. With SDR the display will look fine.

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Oled have better PQ in a dark environment ,But if you are going larger that 65" and can't afford the Oled 77" then the 75" Z9 will be the best option. If you aren't sensitive to blooming/halo then go for the LCD. The problem is that HDR exacerbate this artifacts. With SDR the display will look fine.
Thanks for the feedback. There's so many choices. I have a 65" Plasma now and have been checking out 65" TVs, particularly the '17 LG OLED. I'd love to go larger, but not at those cost for an OLED. I almost purchased the 65C, but decided to wait and see what's new for 2018. What other manufacturer makes OLED TVs?

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Well its time to replace our almost 10 year old ln55c610 Samsung. Almost bought in 17 waited until 18 to see what features would be released. I am glad I waited just hope my TV makes it until early/mid summer looking forward to a new 65in beauty.

Thought about waiting until 19 for HDMI 2.1 but I don't see that keeping me from doing anything I need to do for years to come.

When/If HFR catches on by that time we will be ready to move the 65 upstairs and will be ready for a 77in or larger TV for our theater.

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Well its time to replace our almost 10 year old ln55c610 Samsung. Almost bought in 17 waited until 18 to see what features would be released. I am glad I waited just hope my TV makes it until early/mid summer looking forward to a new 65in beauty.

Thought about waiting until 19 for HDMI 2.1 but I don't see that keeping me from doing anything I need to do for years to come.

When/If HFR catches on by that time we will be ready to move the 65 upstairs and will be ready for a 77in or larger TV for our theater.

Looking forward to seeing the initial reviews.
You should have plenty of time to buy one of the current models if you decide the new ones aren't worth waiting for.
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We'll probably see the first 88" product announced in 2019, possibly 4K rather than 8K. LG's roadmap shows 88" 8K in 2019-2020...

A safe guess on initial pricibg would be at least double whatever the price for the 77" flagship is by then.
Why 8K OLED in 88 inch before 4K?

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Why 8K OLED in 88 inch before 4K?
Because they can (pixels not much smaller than the 4k 55") and because everyone else is going to release 8k displays. Even if they essentially don't sell any, at least no one can say OLED technology isn't capable of 8k. Marketing wise that could be important.
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The rOLED is also a 21:9 screen:
Is there a specific thread where this nice rollable screen is being discussed
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I second that. When I saw the W7 last year I knew that was going to be my next tv; I’d just have to wait a few years for the price to come down. Now it’s the rollable display. It would be nice not to have a big blank tv screen taking up wall space all the time when not in use. I figure I got another three to four years so I may finally get around to getting my VT60 calibrated.


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Why 8K OLED in 88 inch before 4K?
Remember how LG launched the FHD 55" before thet delivered their first 4K 55" OLED?

I think you meant 'why 4K 88" OLED before 8K"... (and that's why - it's very likely that '88" will be the new 55" when it cones to the 4K->8K transition and Lg has a lot to gain by overcoming the growing pains associated with delivering a new larger panel size earlier rather than later).
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it's just a prototype.
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Microsoft claims that they Xbox One X is future proof and that they can add HDMI 2.1 via a firmware update. Shouldn't LG and other TV companies be able to do the same?
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Probably not enough info to warrant its own thread but you can enjoy Vincent's deadpan humor here:

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I'm gonna be chomping at the bit for that 77!
They where saying......77C8P will be 10,000. Current model;s are the same price on the street......XBR-77A1E are way below that on the street.....
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They where saying......77C8P will be 10,000. Current model;s are the same price on the street......XBR-77A1E are way below that on the street.....

If 10K in June, then if history is the judge then 6-7K street by September/October.


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Microsoft claims that they Xbox One X is future proof and that they can add HDMI 2.1 via a firmware update. Shouldn't LG and other TV companies be able to do the same?
Well depends which HDMI 2.1 feature they are talking about. Some of the they certainly can. 48Gbps though, no you can't.
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The LG 2018 models will have BFI (called Motion Pro), thanks to David Mackenzie for the scoop

I'm predicting LG will pulverized Sony on the OLED front this year and they'll also be pulverized by Panasonic in the markets they compete in. I guess I'm thinking the alpha 9 processor is the real deal which will put LG on equal or better footing on the video processing front. Sony's limited budget is even showing itself on the LCD front with their top 3 models carrying over unchanged (AFAIK). Time will tell if Samsung will offer anything to worry Sony. I tell you, when I hear a Samsung rep boast that their televisions will be able to preheat your oven I just find it very difficult not to dislike them a lot.

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