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Not to freak you out, but your panel looks a lot like mine (my b7a). I see it a lot in scenes that are prone to it... episode 3 of GoT this season was very hard to watch. I had LG come out and they said they won't replace my panel. Best of luck with your experience though.

For the 77" it uses the same panel structure as the 2017's which imo has the worst banding out of all the years. It has a lot more jail bar like behavior that to my eyes stands out a lot more. The 18's and 19's are more gradual typically. I'm not 100% sure the 2018 77" shares the same banding profile as the 2017's but it sure looks like a 2017 and it has been proven that the 2018 pixel structure is that of the 2017 panels and not the smaller 2018 panels.

I haven't seen many slides from 77" TVs though.
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Between 80 and 90 hrs. Some improvement in the 5,10,and 15% banding. The white screen still has same amount of magenta and cyan areas. I posted a couple of pics from a YouTube air show that has overcast sky and you can see the pinkish and blueish tints to the sky. Has the tinting improved on anyone's set? I know mine is still early in the breaking in stage. Has anyone seen improvement on the tinting after calibration? I went to white screen and tried changing the Magenta, Cyan, Red and Blue settings but it had no effect one way or the other. Pics taken with Galaxy S8 Dark room with dim bias lighting. The banding in the darker grays is a bit more noticeable than the camera picks up, but still a bit better than before.

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My opinion is that tinting does not change, you either stop noticing it or it stays, but it doesn't change like banding does.

On your slides, even the 100% white, it looks like all your edges are brighter than the rest of the screen? Or is that just the way the picture came out?
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My opinion is that tinting does not change, you either stop noticing it or it stays, but it doesn't change like banding does.

On your slides, even the 100% white, it looks like all your edges are brighter than the rest of the screen? Or is that just the way the picture came out?
Yeah, that's not there in real time. Probably camera or PC or MSPhoto software did something when I cropped it to get the cabinets out of the pic.

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Yeah, that's not there in real time. Probably camera or PC or MSPhoto software did something when I cropped it to get the cabinets out of the pic.
For what its worth, I saw a YouTube video of a guy with a C8 that said he doesn't let his TV do Pixel Refresh and his gray screen banding has all but disappeared, but when he does the Pixel Refresh it comes back like it was at first. He stops it by unplugging it instead of letting it go into standby. Supposedly it does this every 12 hrs of use whether you want it to or not. Can it be turned off totally?

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Imo you should never seen that bad of banding in content. Sure you can see some bands here or there but something isn’t right with that screenshot of the movie.
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For what its worth, I saw a YouTube video of a guy with a C8 that said he doesn't let his TV do Pixel Refresh and his gray screen banding has all but disappeared, but when he does the Pixel Refresh it comes back like it was at first. He stops it by unplugging it instead of letting it go into standby. Supposedly it does this every 12 hrs of use whether you want it to or not. Can it be turned off totally?
It doesn't do it every X hrs of use whether you want it to or not. That would interrupt viewing.
It does an auto compensation cycle by default after every 4 hrs, but only the next time it's in standby.

You can adjust how many hours that 4 interval is in the service menu. I would not recommend increasing that time. Also just as a warning, the TV counts how many hours it's used and how many auto compensation cycles it has performed. People have had service from LG refused when they found out that the TV hadn't run enough auto compensation cycles.

It's the running of auto compensation cycles that prevents banding appearing and helps the panel age equally. Hence the first 100-200 hours of break-in.

The Pixel Refresh only runs every 2,000 hrs and is a completely different process. Please be very careful not to mix up the two terms!

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It doesn't do it every X hrs of use whether you want it to or not. That would interrupt viewing.
It does an auto compensation cycle by default after every 4 hrs, but only the next time it's in standby.

You can adjust how many hours that 4 interval is in the service menu. I would not recommend increasing that time. Also just as a warning, the TV counts how many hours it's used and how many auto compensation cycles it has performed. People have had service from LG refused when they found out that the TV hadn't run enough auto compensation cycles.

It's the running of auto compensation cycles that prevents banding appearing and helps the panel age equally. Hence the first 100-200 hours of break-in.

The Pixel Refresh only runs every 2,000 hrs and is a completely different process. Please be very careful not to mix up the two terms!
Thanks, I know it only does it after it goes into standby. Sorry I wasn't very clear on that. I had ask in an earlier post if Comp-cycle and Pixel Refresh were the same thing and was told yes. So you are saying they are not the same. So I should not be doing a bunch of PR's and the Comp-cycles will take care of themselves? I have the 5yr BB Geek Squad protection so I'm not concerned about LG's warranty. Would you recommend increasing the time between CC's?

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All been covered on the thread many times before . It's a real shame someone told you that the Pixel refresh was the same thing as the daily comp cycle, that's really not helping anyone

Don't avoid comp cycles, and don't increase the time. I've actually reduced mine to 3hrs instead of 4!

Try to avoid Pixel Refresh unless you have a specific reason to run it (eg something hasn't cleared up after attempting several daily comp cycles). LG set it to only run every 2,000 hours for a good reason
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All been covered on the thread many times before . It's a real shame someone told you that the Pixel refresh was the same thing as the daily comp cycle, that's really not helping anyone
That would have been me. I mistakenly thought we were discussing the different names that each manufacturer gives their manual cycle. Like my Sony is a panel refresh etc. I’ll edit my post with your definition so not to confuse people.
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This is a 65" LG C8.

I know it's still a bit early as by TV has only undergone about 5 comp cycles, but I wanted to share my photos of my TVs uniformity before my return window ends.

The uniformity at 5% gray looks pretty bad to me. Lots of banding (including curved banding), splotches, and a rectangle in the middle of the screen. The 100% white also has a yellow tint, that shows up in content. How much of this will clear up with more hours on the TV and does this warrant an immediate replacement?
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This is a 65" LG C8.

I know it's still a bit early as by TV has only undergone about 5 comp cycles, but I wanted to share my photos of my TVs uniformity before my return window ends.

The uniformity at 5% gray looks pretty bad to me. Lots of banding (including curved banding), splotches, and a rectangle in the middle of the screen. The 100% white also has a yellow tint, that shows up in content. How much of this will clear up with more hours on the TV and does this warrant an immediate replacement?
I'll keep my 5 and 10% grays but I'll trade you my pink ends for your yellowish middle.
If mine looked like that it would be gone tomorrow. Way too expensive for that much banding. JMHO

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Still can't believe this kind of craftsmanship is acceptable for high end TVs in this day of age.
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So LG is still producing panels with the calibration rectangle visible. That or you got a really old panel in your C8....
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So LG is still producing panels with the calibration rectangle visible. That or you got a really old panel in your C8....

The firmware version was 3.00.90 I believe, so it is quite old. I've since updated to 4.10.15, which is what it was on when I took the photos
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Yep that FW is almost a year old.
I'd update it to the latest (04.10.55) which might somewhat improve 5% and below uniformity because of the stronger dithering but if it still looks bad especially with the calibration rectangle so visible I'd return it....

I'd also try a manual comp cycle before returning it, though I doubt it will help..

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Yep that FW is almost a year old.
I'd update it to the latest (04.10.55) which might somewhat improve 5% and below uniformity because of the stronger dithering but if it still looks bad especially with the calibration rectangle so visible I'd return it....

I'd also try a manual comp cycle before returning it, though I doubt it will help..

I called my retailer, and they want to send a tech out to take a look at it before I can replace it. I sent them the photos and they said it was too hard to tell (looks clear as day to me), and I'm not sure how the tech is going to see anything during the daytime, which I made very clear to them. If they find nothing wrong, then I can't replace it for the same model. I can still return though. I would just return it, and buy a new one except that the price is much higher now. I'm going to keep my TV on the 4.10.15 firmware until the tech makes a determination. I don't want it to be "better" (but still not good enough imo) for when the tech arrives.


I can't believe such a high end TV can have this much variation between panels. It's ridiculous
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I called my retailer, and they want to send a tech out to take a look at it before I can replace it. I sent them the photos and they said it was too hard to tell (looks clear as day to me), and I'm not sure how the tech is going to see anything during the daytime, which I made very clear to them. If they find nothing wrong, then I can't replace it for the same model. I can still return though. I would just return it, and buy a new one except that the price is much higher now. I'm going to keep my TV on the 4.10.15 firmware until the tech makes a determination. I don't want it to be "better" (but still not good enough imo) for when the tech arrives.


I can't believe such a high end TV can have this much variation between panels. It's ridiculous
I 100% agree....I’m in the same boat with an upcoming exchange. They view these issues as being “within tolerance”. BS
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I dont really know what I am looking at, but maybe someone can school me. I followed the instructions from the first post. Here is my 5% pic from youtube on my Xbox One S. I took this pic with an iPhone XS Max. Uncalibrated B7 with 2648 hours on it. Is this good? Bad? I'm not even sure if I care, as its still a jawdropping image, and I notice none of whatever it is I'm seeing in this pic on anything I watch. The "color" in the lower right corner is a reflection from my son's room as he opened the door as I took the pic.
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I dont really know what I am looking at, but maybe someone can school me. I followed the instructions from the first post. Here is my 5% pic from youtube on my Xbox One S. I took this pic with an iPhone XS Max. Uncalibrated B7 with 2648 hours on it. Is this good? Bad? I'm not even sure if I care, as its still a jawdropping image, and I notice none of whatever it is I'm seeing in this pic on anything I watch. The "color" in the lower right corner is a reflection from my son's room as he opened the door as I took the pic.
It looks a lot better than some I’ve seen. Enjoy!
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I dont really know what I am looking at, but maybe someone can school me. I followed the instructions from the first post. Here is my 5% pic from youtube on my Xbox One S. I took this pic with an iPhone XS Max. Uncalibrated B7 with 2648 hours on it. Is this good? Bad? I'm not even sure if I care, as its still a jawdropping image, and I notice none of whatever it is I'm seeing in this pic on anything I watch. The "color" in the lower right corner is a reflection from my son's room as he opened the door as I took the pic.
Just walk away from this thread very slowly.
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Blurry and 640x480 resolution, that's like using a 25 year old digital camera.
Sometimes I think this thread is a competition about making the crappiest photo possible.
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Blurry and 640x480 resolution, that's like using a 25 year old digital camera.
Sometimes I think this thread is a competition about making the crappiest photo possible.
I hear ya, but a turd on a Polaroid picture and a turd on a high end DSLR is still a turd. LOL!

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I dont really know what I am looking at, but maybe someone can school me. I followed the instructions from the first post. Here is my 5% pic from youtube on my Xbox One S. I took this pic with an iPhone XS Max. Uncalibrated B7 with 2648 hours on it. Is this good? Bad? I'm not even sure if I care, as its still a jawdropping image, and I notice none of whatever it is I'm seeing in this pic on anything I watch. The "color" in the lower right corner is a reflection from my son's room as he opened the door as I took the pic.
Looks better than my b7a. You have a lot of bands but they don't look drastically different from the adjacent areas so it won't stand out as much and will be harder to see. If you don't see them, enjoy your TV

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Blurry and 640x480 resolution, that's like using a 25 year old digital camera.
Sometimes I think this thread is a competition about making the crappiest photo possible.

Who cares.. You still can see that these oleds are just a nightmare in dark scenes..


The much more relevant question is: Why do people still buy oleds and try to accept a broken display..


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Sometimes I think this thread is a competition about making the crappiest photo possible. [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif[/IMG]

Who cares.. You still can see that these oleds are just a nightmare in dark scenes..


The much more relevant question is: Why do people still buy oleds and try to accept a broken display..


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Who cares..
Anyone who seriously wants to help diagnose and advise the owner posting. And the owner who's posting should care, too.

That 640x480 image is probably the worst quality "this is what my TV looks like" image I can remember! And 640x480 is the FULL image - the actual middle bit showing the image is only 400x230! But the OP has bigger problems than his camera, unfortunately (ie the TV!)

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"But the OP has bigger problems than his camera, unfortunately (ie the TV!) "


Exactly! The uniformity of this tv is horrible..

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"But the OP has bigger problems than his camera, unfortunately (ie the TV!) "


Exactly! The uniformity of this tv is horrible..
Yes but he has noticed "none of it" after 2648 hours.
I wish I had that ability.
Also I'm sure the problem isn't the camera, a $1000 iphone can take better pictures.
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I tried it myself..


I could see some afterglow/image retention, but besides this Plasma has no problem with these 5% grey slides..


Top right corner, some tv logos, and in around the middle some afterglow from the menu.. This particular 2009 series is really bad with image retention..
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