Originally Posted by video_analysis
I think you're reading too much malice into his main motivation for posting here, which is to provide balance for those on the fence, so that the public still has an option besides transmissive in the years to come.
Malice? No. Ego? Absolutely. My choice is the best. These people are full of it. It happens to hardly anyone so IGNORE this "warning thread" entirely. It hasn't affected some of us, "AT ALL." Yeah, he never said it NEVER happens. I read too much into "AT ALL" as if "not yet" somehow means "not ever".
Some probably never will see burn in. People who use Blu-Ray players (instead of set-top boxes with software like AppleTV or KODI that have repetitive menu overlays) and rarely if ever watch regular TV (all Netflix or Hulu or whatever) and don't play games with overlays, etc. probably have little to no chance of getting burn-in. Others might not get it for years.
My old Panasonic 1998 57" CRT HDTV that never had burn-in when I had it sure as heck has burn-in now that my mother has it at her house (still working over 19 years later!) Years of 4:3 programming was all it took, apparently (I either rarely watched it or used a stretch mode when I had it). But even so, it didn't burn in for over 3 more years after I gave it to her. It doesn't always happen overnight. Some things are cumulative and people should at least be aware of what can cause it to happen. OLED is apparently not how long at a time, but how much over ANY length of time. That KODI menu might not burn-in for a few years, but keep using it and it just might later on. I've seen no evidence of that particular behavior on my plasma thus far (now almost 7 years old), but that doesn't mean it never
will if I keep using the same menu system.
The question is how much of those activities will lead to burn-in on OLED? Are these problems a manufacturing defect on SOME panels or some years of production or some models or sizes or is it more common and activity has more to do with it? At least SOME of the panels manufactured can burn-in with relatively few hours according to some reports. How accurate is human reporting? There's room for questions, but this back and forth, "It happens" and "It hardly ever happens" is annoying as hell. Go create a thread like the old advocacy newsgroups use if you want to play "Everything else sucks" games. This thread is about a WARNING to possible future OLED buyers. I'd expect to see new test data, new reports from people experiencing an issue or long term reports from new people not experiencing issues (for balance as someone said), but what's driving me bonkers is this tit-for-tat reply to put down anything anyone says that agrees there's an issue. That's not reporting. It's bickering.
When the forum has multiple burn-in threads being bumped, I think that's what encourages him to participate in said threads. It doesn't matter to me that much anymore since 1) 3D has been shelved and 2) LGD can't get the banding situation sorted. I am almost to the point that I don't care if the whole venture burns to the ground. Maybe real QLED or microLED will rise to the occasion after the fact, though the chances are slim in what has largely become a commodity market.
What's 3D got to do with it? It's not worth buying "any" TV ever again if 3D isn't included or was OLED special in its handling of 3D that nothing else compares?
Personally, I think 3D is getting the shaft purely because people didn't exactly adopt regular BD in droves (too many other options now with streaming and many smaller sized sets don't show "huge" differences between SD and HD at 10+ feet viewing distances. I have a friend to this day who still buys only DVDs because he said he can't see any difference at all on his TV.) Yeah, sitting 20 feet away from a 50" set isn't conducive to HD viewing. Thus, trying to push 4K (purely because this means they can sell TVs at higher prices than the 1080p sets were going for) seems to be their sole motivation. If it were entirely numbers, they wouldn't keep releasing 3D BDs to the rest of the world. The US seems to be the test ground for the 4K PUSH. This wouldn't have been an issue if they included 4K 3D from the start.