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LG have add a new feature to the 2018 oled line up to help prevent Screen burn .
This should be added to our 2017 sets too as we are all at risk of screen burn .
The new feature dims the luminance of static logos which are the biggest cause of screen burn .
If this is something you would like to see on your set sign the petition.

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LG has had the static logo dimming feature since at least 2015 from posts of owners on AVS. I've verified it working on our B6, but it didn't help to prevent burn-in.

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LG has had the static logo dimming feature since at least 2015 from posts of owners on AVS. I've verified it working on our B6, but it didn't help to prevent burn-in.
Is LG still not covering B6 burn-ins?
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LG has had the static logo dimming feature since at least 2015 from posts of owners on AVS. I've verified it working on our B6, but it didn't help to prevent burn-in.
My C6 does not dim logos only that I have seen. Is there a setting somewhere?

Can you time it...how long it takes to dim the CNN or MSNBC logos for example?

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There is no setting for logo dimming on 2016 and 2017 TVs and that's the problem, it's so subtle that I'd call it useless. But it also means that it's already implemented and all LG needs to do is let us adjust how aggressively it dims.
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No, my Galaxy S8 has no burn in. Don't know where you are getting these rumours from.
Depends on use. I had quite a few Samsung amoled devices with burn-ins.
But the difference between Samsung and LG burn-ins - Samsung fixes them under warranty, no questions asked. You send it in for repair on Monday, you get it back Wednesday with new screen installed.

I never owned an LG product, except for lcd cell phone. I want to "break" the screen so I can have it replaced under warranty. Any suggestions? Can magnets or sun or something do damage which would be covered by warranty?


P.S. Where in the manual does it talk about burn-in? All I see is nonsense like this (.pdf downloaded for B6P) -
• If you have long nails, do not open the battery cover by using your finger. Or else, your nail could break.
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B7 Owner. Been using as a PC monitor for a couple months as a secondary monitor - calibrated in calman at 100nits - OLED light at 22.
Screensaver comes on after 5 min, so while the TV is on for the majority of the day it's usually not displaying anything, I move any static screens off of it. Having it on but black shouldn't be a problem should it?
I play games too but not often on the OLED, is it a huge risk at that brightness? I'd like to use it more for Switch/PC games but the idea of burn in has kept me away from doing it.
I've read on here as much as I can about it but it gets a bit tricky to discern what to believe in comments.
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OLED light at 22 means you can use it practically any way you want without fear of BI.
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OLED light at 22 means you can use it practically any way you want without fear of BI.
Thats not necessarily true, though. The Rtings Real-Life Burn in test shows worse burn-in on thier C7 displaying at 200 Nits Max than the C7 set at max brightness. Both displaying CNN.

It's been taken as fact that lowering the birghtness reduces burn-in risk, but there may be some panel lottery making certian sets more vulnerable.
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OLED light at 22 means you can use it practically any way you want without fear of BI.
OLED light at 22 means you can't hardly see the damn TV!
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Apparently, it's adequate for the owner above. 35 is about as low as I go, also not conducive to causing BI (unless the set is already compromised, apparently).
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OLED light at 22 means you can't hardly see the damn TV!
Haha, it looks great to me! I find HDR to be blinding at times, I do video work so 100nits calibration on all my monitors is important to me so I guess I'm used to it.
It's discouraging that it might be down to a panel lottery :/ I've been debating getting a cheap TCL 4K TV on Amazon for this reason - as even OLED light seems like it doesn't affect the potential for BI too much?
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IIRC, everyone who's reported BI so far has used OLED light settings of 50 or above.
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My C6 does not dim logos only that I have seen. Is there a setting somewhere?

Can you time it...how long it takes to dim the CNN or MSNBC logos for example?
No setting for it on the B6. It works automatically. It's hard to say exactly when it starts dimming, as it does it very gradually, but usually after about 3-5 minutes, it should be sufficiently dimmed that by pressing one of the volume buttons on the remote should immediately return it to full brightness.

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B7 Owner. Been using as a PC monitor for a couple months as a secondary monitor - calibrated in calman at 100nits - OLED light at 22.
Screensaver comes on after 5 min, so while the TV is on for the majority of the day it's usually not displaying anything, I move any static screens off of it. Having it on but black shouldn't be a problem should it?
I play games too but not often on the OLED, is it a huge risk at that brightness? I'd like to use it more for Switch/PC games but the idea of burn in has kept me away from doing it.
I've read on here as much as I can about it but it gets a bit tricky to discern what to believe in comments.
If you're using your LG OLED as a monitor, you should turn it off with the remote at least once a day so that the automatic compensation cycle can run. This should help clear any temporary IR. It may also have some other undocumented benefits. I don't think these TVs are meant to be on all the time.

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Thats not necessarily true, though. The Rtings Real-Life Burn in test shows worse burn-in on thier C7 displaying at 200 Nits Max than the C7 set at max brightness. Both displaying CNN.

It's been taken as fact that lowering the birghtness reduces burn-in risk, but there may be some panel lottery making certian sets more vulnerable.
It's unlikely that what we're seeing on the Rtings CNN 200 nits OLED light set is actually burn-in. OLED burn-in typically appears darker, not brighter than the surrounding area. This is more likely threshold shift related temporary IR that the auto compensation cycles have failed to clear for some reason.

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OLED light at 22 means you can't hardly see the damn TV!
This is true for most folks using their OLED as a TV and watching from a greater distance. For someone using as a monitor, and sitting relatively close, I can see lower settings like this working.

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Oled-light 20 is about as bright as my 2012 panasonic plasma, for a darkened room that can be fine.
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It's unlikely that what we're seeing on the Rtings CNN 200 nits OLED light set is actually burn-in. OLED burn-in typically appears darker, not brighter than the surrounding area. This is more likely threshold shift related temporary IR that the auto compensation cycles have failed to clear for some reason.
I don't think it matters whether this is traditional burn-in or some fault with compensation. What matters is the end result - a panel with visible and permanent damage. I would only make the distinction if this really is "temporary IR" and can be removed somehow. The calibration rectangle has thus far not disappeared so you might as well call it burn-in unless they keep displaying it repeatedly and not allowing it to fade. I've asked rtings to clarify a few questions about that rectangle. It would be interesting if they gave the CNN set a break for a few days with some other content and allowed it to run multiple compensations to verify if anything fades away. Maybe one cycle is not enough to clear it.
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Not a lot but a little is enough for me. LG should be replacing my screen under warranty in few days.
I have 2600 hours on the screen.

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Not a lot but a little is enough for me. LG should be replacing my screen under warranty in few days.
I have 2600 hours on the screen.

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Yikes! Glad you're getting a replacement though - how'd you manage that? And what OLED light level was the TV at?
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Yikes! Glad you're getting a replacement though - how'd you manage that? And what OLED light level was the TV at?
I think it was at 80 and I'm not entirely sure how it happened. I watch a lot of network TV more than I stream over the course of a day every day.

This is my first OLED tv and I just didn't think about BI. Now that I know and even though the screen is being replaced I think my viewing habits are directing me to move this TV to another less used room, use it for streaming and will pick up a LCD TV. LG has a new one that is coming out SK9500P that I'm probably going to pick up or one of those inexpensive off name brand TVs under a grand.
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I'm not seeing it here, but I'm sure I'm missing something. Where's the BI?

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I'm not seeing it here, but I'm sure I'm missing something. Where's the BI?
Bottom right - I could only see it on the green picture
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I'm not seeing it here, but I'm sure I'm missing something. Where's the BI?
That dot in the bottom right. It's pretty clearly visible in every picture...

There is also some letters in the bottom right, although much more faint. MSNBC?
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That dot in the bottom right. It's pretty clearly visible in every picture...

There is also some letters in the bottom right, although much more faint. MSNBC?
Could be I watch MSNBC in the mornings before work for a couple of hours and another couple when I get home. All I really notice the most when watching programs is the green blotch.
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Could be I watch MSNBC in the mornings before work for a couple of hours and another couple when I get home. All I really notice the most when watching programs is the green blotch.
If you had to guess, what would be your cumulative watch time? Is this the E7?
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If you had to guess, what would be your cumulative watch time? Is this the E7?
For MSNBC? I don't know 4 hours a day 7 days a week since August. My total watch time is around 2600. My best guess is the BI happened around 2000 hours. Yes it's the E7.
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I keep getting browser address bar retention even with more careful settings. Pixel refresh seems to fix it. Keep in mind this is with no screen saver at all.

I moved to Quantum Firefox browser it let's you hide the address in fullscreen mode. I should be good now I hope.

I almost bought a 70" M Vizio at a heavy discount but the responce time is 6ms and I kept looking at what tv's are best at certain things and they all recommend my B7A Looooool

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That dot in the bottom right. It's pretty clearly visible in every picture...

There is also some letters in the bottom right, although much more faint. MSNBC?
Ah I see it now. Yes and the MSNBC letters, but that dot is strange. I noticed it in the orange picture first time around but thought it was an artifact or something on my screen...

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B7 Owner. Been using as a PC monitor for a couple months as a secondary monitor - calibrated in calman at 100nits - OLED light at 22.
Screensaver comes on after 5 min, so while the TV is on for the majority of the day it's usually not displaying anything, I move any static screens off of it. Having it on but black shouldn't be a problem should it?
I play games too but not often on the OLED, is it a huge risk at that brightness? I'd like to use it more for Switch/PC games but the idea of burn in has kept me away from doing it.
I've read on here as much as I can about it but it gets a bit tricky to discern what to believe in comments.
The lowest settings I use are in the 40's for web browsing. I can't really see anything comfortably below 40 and I'm in a dark room. I try not to use it for the internet too much because of the possibility of burn in.

I have a 34" LG ultrawide monitor on the side I use for internet while I watch my OLED at full brightness as a main screen in multi monitor mode.

I mainly use my OLED at HDR 100 backlight 44 brightness for tv/movie (no news channels) and 90 backlight 49 brightness for PC gaming (40min to 1 hour sessions). According to Rtings OLED testing it can go quite a few hundred hours before the risk of burn in.

It's a shame for us heavy internet users. I can say for sure this tv isn't cut out for web browsing. I would recommend using another display for long web browsing sessions. I'm at 200hrs now probably 80% of that was used for web browsing and haven't noticed burn in except for address bar retention.
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I've had my C7 since early May and have accumulated almost 2000 hours of usage.

I lowered my OLED Light to 60 last Summer when I heard that this might mitigate OLED burn in potential.

Apparently that wasn't soon enough or it didn't matter and I spend too much time in the YouTube menus as I have burn from using the app. The burn in is composed of the two small rectangular shortcut boxes in the lower right hand corner of the app. I don't have a high quality camera on my phone but you can make out one of the rectangles. And no I don't spend all day on YouTube, far from it.

This TV has to go and I'll need to find a LCD that I can live with. I plan on keeping the EG9100 as it's not used nearly as much as my main TV.

Anyone who has participated in some of the threads that I participate in will know I'm a big advocate for OLED so I don't enter this post lightly.
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Sorry to hear that. I don't see the picture, though.
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