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post #511 of 559 Old 10-06-2018, 05:47 AM - Thread Starter
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There a few missunderstanding I been noticing every time 8K been meantion in threads here.

1) That it require double the bandwidth of 4K. It acturally require 4X the bandwidth because it 4X the pixels. 3840*2160= 8294400 and 7680*4320 = 33177600.

2) That without compression hdmi 2.1 supports 10bit [email protected] This would acturally require 62.06 Gbit/s. Even on a 8 bit display there not enough bandwidth for [email protected] which would need 49.65 Gbit/s.

The HDMI wiki acturally in this case does a fairly good job by providing a table for both 8bit and 10bit showing bandwidth requirements
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#Version_2.1

That being said I think it likly that samsung will add [email protected] support to there tv by using the DSC compression that supported by hdmi 2.1. I would be surprise if this could not be done through firmware as I doubt any changes to hardware would be required.

My conclusion is just because samsung listing specs as [email protected] it does not mean it does not fully support the hdmi 2.1 spec since without DSC that is the max refresh rate that hdmi 2.1 supports.

The HDMI faq for 2.1 acturally spells out that it will need to use DSC compression in order to support the high refreshrates at 8K
https://www.hdmi.org/manufacturer/hdmi_2_1/

It one of the things listed under Feature FAQS
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TV SHOOT OUT EXPERTS: DON’T FRET OVER MISSING HDMI 2.1
https://hdguru.com/tv-shoot-out-expe...sing-hdmi-2-1/

By this posting, you would think that I was agreeing with the go ahead and buy now and don't wait,well I would wait for HDMI 2.1!
Quote; Since day one of HDMI 1.0 there have been four high-speed channels built into the interface. That fourth high-speed channel will be turned on for the first time as a legitimate high-speed channel with 2.1.(this is reason one)
Quote; But do you know how much bandwidth is necessary for 4K, 60 frames per second, 4:4:4 chroma sub sampling and 10-bit? It is not 18.2 Gbps [the maximum bandwidth for the HDMI 2.0 spec]. What most people don’t see is that little tiny word `or’ that ought to be on package. 4K/60fps, 4:4:4, 10-bit actually requires between 22.5 and 23.5 Gbps (reason two)
Quote; The HDMI Forum sets minimum compliance tests but where HDMI 2.0 had a list of things that would be required, HDMI 2.1 for the first time brings in digital compression — it allows for built-in compression in the spec. So if we are at 6 Gbps per lane, when we add a fourth channel we are at 24 Gbps. So, we are talking about the ability to pass 4K/120 using compression and as long as you can support 4K/60fps 4:4:4 or 8K 4:4:4, you are able to call yourself HDMI 2.1 (three)

So with HDMI 2.1 being so close to being here,why would you buy a TV without it, as you are right, especially 8K.
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Reviews of the Samsung 8K set were released today and it seems adamant there is going to be a 2.1 connect box next year.

" Samsung plan to replace the existing box with one that includes HDMI 2.1, but what the company hasn’t decided yet is whether that upgrade will be free or not."

"However, Samsung assures me that it will start shipping Q900Rs in the new year with updated One Connect boxes equipped with a single HDMI 2.1 port. At which point people who buy Q900Rs now will be able to replace their One Connect boxes with the new HDMI 2.1 versions"
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OK!I KNOW THIS IS IN EXPERIMENTAL STAGE, but this is the start of 4K broadcast, makeing the marriage of 4K and a 8K TV more interesting.

5 STATIONS JOIN ATSC 3.0 PHOENIX TEST PROJECT
The next generation of over-the-air TV broadcasting continues its slow transition to the ATSC 3.0 standard with five stations joining the experimental Phoenix Model Market project
Broadcasters will have the ability to choose the various features they broadcast including 4K Ultra HDTV, high dynamic range and advanced surround sound. It will also allow various interactive application, melding features tied to the internet with OTA broadcasting.

https://hdguru.com/5-stations-join-a...-test-project/

Alright, I know this is a couple of years out. The over the air 4K broadcast, will wake up the consumer.

BROADCASTERS COLLABORATE TO ADVANCE ATSC 3.0

https://hdguru.com/broadcasters-coll...ance-atsc-3-0/

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I can't see LG bringing this out without HDMI 2.1!


LG's 8K OLED TV expected to launch in June 2019
First 8K OLED TV
LG Display, the display panel manufacturer, will start mass production of 8K OLED panels in May 2019. The plan was confirmed at an industry conference held at COEX in Seoul, Korea.

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Well...now that I know Vincent looks at AVS...probably be best for me to stop bad mouthing his hairstyle.

So it looks like no true 2.1 for now. Wonder if that is going to trash sales of the Samsung and the LG 8K's.

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So he speculates that the chips for 2.1 from one company will be mass produced in march 2019,so LG will come out in June of 2019 with 8K and HDMI 2.1 and also Samsung will update their 8K to HDMI 2.1 in 2019,SO HDMI 2.1 in 2019!
Don't forget that LG has come out with advancements in their OLED'S before anyone else.
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So he speculates that the chips for 2.1 from one company will be mass produced in march 2019,so LG will come out in June of 2019 with 8K and HDMI 2.1 and also Samsung will update their 8K to HDMI 2.1 in 2019,SO HDMI 2.1 in 2019!
I doubt it, manufacturers won’t have the chipsets til 2019 so too late for anything that was already planned and coming out in 2019, most likely 2020 or 21 for full 2.1! I’m just interested in e-arc for now which I can get if I buy a new Sony tv.

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I doubt it, manufacturers won’t have the chipsets til 2019 so too late for anything that was already planned and coming out in 2019, most likely 2020 or 21 for full 2.1! I’m just interested in e-arc for now which I can get if I buy a new Sony tv.
Don't get me wrong, Vincent is great, but he misinderstood the LG-Synopsys press release he referenced: https://news.synopsys.com/2018-09-18...ng-Experiences

Synopsys is not a chip maker, they do not sell ICs. This licensing deal is for IP,enabling LG to manufacture their own SOC integrating proven HDMI2.1 capability.

That press release is dated September 18 of this year and it is very likely/possible that LG started work on their next-geeration SOC for 8K/HDMI2.1 well before that.

So while Vincent's statement that the Socionext 'first' HDMI2.1 off-the-shelf HDMI2.1 SOC shipping in March 2019 (https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...300730692.html) would not be compatible with a June 2019 HDMI2.1 8K TV launch, just because Socionext's SOC may be the first off-the-shelf HDMI2.1 SOC available does not mean LG's internally-developed SOC cannot be available well before then.

In 2016, LG used an off-the-shelf SOC for the B6P and an in-house SOC for the C, E and G6P. In 2017, LG used their in-house SOC for the entire WOLED lineup. In 2018 they used a new higher-performing in-house SOC for the C, E, and W8P and used a slightly less-performing in-house SOC for the B8P (which may just be the 2017 In-house SOC -I've never seen a definitive conclusion to that debate).

The point is that LG has a proven track record now of following the Sony strategy of in-house SOC development to gain a performance and time-to-market edge over relying on 3rd-party off-the-shelf SOCs.

So while I'm certainly not going to predict that LG will launch their June 2019 8K WOLED TV with HDMI2.1, I'm comfortable stating that's Vincent's conclusion that this is impossible is not correct.

Synopsis announced availability of their complete HDMI2.1 IP solution 11 months ago (November 30, 2017): https://markets.businessinsider.com/...ion-1010059616

For all we know, the September 18 press release between Synopsis and LG may represent the decision point when LG had completed design and bring-up of a new more-advanced in-house HDMI2.1 SOC and made the decision to commit to manufacturing.

If that were the case, LG would easily be able to announce HDMI 2.1 capability for as much of their 2019 WOLED TV lineup as they would like...

Not predicting it's gonna' happen, but I am looking forward to see whats gets announced as CES in 3 months .
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I doubt it, manufacturers won’t have the chipsets til 2019 so too late for anything that was already planned and coming out in 2019, most likely 2020 or 21 for full 2.1! I’m just interested in e-arc for now which I can get if I buy a new Sony tv.
Don't get me wrong, Vincent is great, but he misinderstood the LG-Synopsys press release he referenced: https://news.synopsys.com/2018-09-18...ng-Experiences

Synopsys is not a chip maker, they do not sell ICs. This licensing deal is for IP,enabling LG to manufacture their own SOC integrating proven HDMI2.1 capability.

That press release is dated September 18 of this year and it is very likely/possible that LG started work on their next-geeration SOC for 8K/HDMI2.1 well before that.

So while Vincent's statement that the Socionext 'first' HDMI2.1 off-the-shelf HDMI2.1 SOC shipping in March 2019 (https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...300730692.html) would not be compatible with a June 2019 HDMI2.1 8K TV launch, just because Socionext's SOC may be the first off-the-shelf HDMI2.1 SOC available does not mean LG's internally-developed SOC cannot be available well before then.

In 2016, LG used an off-the-shelf SOC for the B6P and an in-house SOC for the C, E and G6P. In 2017, LG used their in-house SOC for the entire WOLED lineup. In 2018 they used a new higher-performing in-house SOC for the C, E, and W8P and used a slightly less-performing in-house SOC for the B8P (which may just be the 2017 In-house SOC -I've never seen a definitive conclusion to that debate).

The point is that LG has a proven track record now of following the Sony strategy of in-house SOC development to gain a performance and time-to-market edge over relying on 3rd-party off-the-shelf SOCs.

So while I'm certainly not going to predict that LG will launch their June 2019 8K WOLED TV with HDMI2.1, I'm comfortable stating that's Vincent's conclusion that this is impossible is not correct.

Synopsis announced availability of their complete HDMI2.1 IP solution 11 months ago (November 30, 2017): https://markets.businessinsider.com/...ion-1010059616

For all we know, the September 18 press release between Synopsis and LG may represent the decision point when LG had completed design and bring-up of a new more-advanced in-house HDMI2.1 SOC and made the decision to commit to manufacturing.

If that were the case, LG would easily be able to announce HDMI 2.1 capability for as much of their 2019 WOLED TV lineup as they would like...

Not predicting it's gonna' happen, but I am looking forward to see whats gets announced as CES in 3 months [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif[/IMG].
At the end of the day I have no idea? Just a wild guess and there is less of a chance they do than don’t imo.
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At the end of the day I have no idea? Just a wild guess and there is less of a chance they do than don’t imo.
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On the one hand, the fact that we are so far ahead of a broad rollout of 'true' HDMI 2.1 makes me agree with you.

On the other hand:

1/ Samsung jumped the gun on LG with the first consumer 8K TV launch, so it is likely that LG will be motivated by more to one-up Samsung than just the first OLED 8K TV (especially since they will be lagging in peak brightness).

2/ LG has a demonstrated track record now of improving the performance of their TVs and approaching the Sony-like performance of their WOLED TVs with custom in-house SOCs - that's strong cool-aid I expect them to keep drinking it.

So I see the motivation and I see the means - the unknowable is whether the Synopsis HDMI 2.1 IPs were as mature a year ago as they claimed they were...

Let's put it this way, if you assume LG has now embraced a strategy of introducing powerful in-house SOCs on a yearly basis to differentiate and add value to their TV offerings, it would be logical to assume that they will be rollong out a new and even more powerful in-house SOC for their 2019 generation of TVs;

and if you add in the fact that LG has announced that they are licensing Synopsis 'silicon proven' HDMI2.1 IP this Septemberif with the further fact that Synopsis has claimed that their HDMI 2.1 IP was as mature and teady for design i tegration close to a year ago;

it is difficult to find a solid argument for why LG would not have wanted to include HDMI 2.1 capability in whatever next-generation in-house SOC they began working on from day 1.

If LG's cycle-time for in-house SOC development, bring-up, transfer to manufacturng, and mass-production of SOCs is 2 years, this is obviously not happening before 2020 (and the 2019 TVs will be a rehash if the 2018 SOC).

But if the cycle time is closer to a year, and LG is capable of delivering a new-generation in-house SOC with each new TV generation they launch, we could be in for a surprise...
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WOW!NO 8K content?

Japan’s public service provider NHK has been developing 8K image systems since 1995, with a stated goal of broadcasting the 2020 Tokyo Olympics in its full glory. The company is now launching the ’BS8K channel’ to prepare for the big event.

NHK’s BS8K channel will broadcast 12 hours daily. On launch day, it will feature 8K footage of Earth shot by NASA from the International Space Station as well as Stanley Kubrick’s 2001: A Space Odyssey in a restored 8K version created from the 70mm film negative in collaboration with Warner Bros.

- “On the BS8K channel on December 1st, a landmark film in cinematic history, the science-fiction epic "2001: A Space Odyssey" will be broadcast,“ said Yukinori Kida, Executive Director of Broadcasting, NHK. “Although many films were shot in 35mm, this film which was made half a century ago, was one of the few shot in 70mm, the highest quality available at the time. NHK was the first in the world to request this film be converted to 8K. Warner Bros, which owns the film, scanned the original film negatives, repairing scratches and restoring the color, to convert it into 8K.”
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Seems like 70mm film is prime for 8K conversion!


LG teases 2nd-gen 'Alpha 9' processor for 2019 OLED TVs
https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.ph...&id=1543397159

Well,maybe HDMI 2.1 for LG 8K?
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WOW!NO 8K content?

Japan’s public service provider NHK has been developing 8K image systems since 1995, with a stated goal of broadcasting the 2020 Tokyo Olympics in its full glory. The company is now launching the ’BS8K channel’ to prepare for the big event.

NHK’s BS8K channel will broadcast 12 hours daily. On launch day, it will feature 8K footage of Earth shot by NASA from the International Space Station as well as Stanley Kubrick’s 2001: A Space Odyssey in a restored 8K version created from the 70mm film negative in collaboration with Warner Bros.

- “On the BS8K channel on December 1st, a landmark film in cinematic history, the science-fiction epic "2001: A Space Odyssey" will be broadcast,“ said Yukinori Kida, Executive Director of Broadcasting, NHK. “Although many films were shot in 35mm, this film which was made half a century ago, was one of the few shot in 70mm, the highest quality available at the time. NHK was the first in the world to request this film be converted to 8K. Warner Bros, which owns the film, scanned the original film negatives, repairing scratches and restoring the color, to convert it into 8K.”
https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.ph...&id=1543319511



Seems like 70mm film is prime for 8K conversion!


LG teases 2nd-gen 'Alpha 9' processor for 2019 OLED TVs
https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.ph...&id=1543397159

Well,maybe HDMI 2.1 for LG 8K?
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Wow!Looks like people are wising up in 2018 and not buying 8K TV'S without HDMI 2.1,well the way I'm reading this is HDMI 2.1 in 2019.

Wait for HDMI 2.1
Industry watchers attribute the slow start to the lack of content and that consumers are “waiting for more improved 8K TVs”.

That is a polite way of saying that Samsung and Sharp have jumped the shark. Their current 8K TVs lack HDMI 2.1, which is required to input 8K video at decent frame rates. YouTube is one of the only providers to offer 8K video content but the current TVs are not capable of decoding it. Companies are trying to sell the story of the wonders of upscaling but consumers are evidently not buying it.

More TV manufacturers are expected to launch 8K TVs in the coming year as HDMI 2.1 chipsets emerge. Some of these TVs may be showcased at CES 2019 in Las Vegas next month.

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Consumers wised up!

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88 inch 8K OLED with HDMI 2.1 please!
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None of the Best Buys have them on display near me. And at $15,000...folks are probably not going to be breaking the doors down trying to grab them up.

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Promoting information applications to benefit 8K TV sales

Digitimes Research also believes that in addition to improving the image of non-8K videos through AI scaling technology, the TV industry should also expand related information applications to crease demand for 8K TVs. As compared with video content, the presentation of a large amount of text or maps through information applications will highlight the superior image quality of 8K TVs.

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Digitimes Research also believes that in addition to improving the image of non-8K videos through AI scaling technology, the TV industry should also expand related information applications to crease demand for 8K TVs. As compared with video content, the presentation of a large amount of text or maps through information applications will highlight the superior image quality of 8K TVs.

https://www.digitimes.com/news/a20181211PD201.html
Interesting, but I see the need to 'highlight the superior image quality of 8K TVs' as a short-term, early-adopters issue.

As long as 8K TVs are noticably pricier than 4K TVs of the same size, those that want to 'pay up" for the increased resolution (as well as the vendors selling it) will need to justify the Premium.

But with time, the manufacturing costs of 8K TVs will be little higher than the manufacturing costs of 4K TVs, and nce we reach price parity, it's an easy decision - who wouldn't want 4 times the pixels for the same price?

Screen area is much more fundamental to TV panel cost than resolution, so this whole subject of 'highlighting superior image quality' amounts to how many $$$s the manufacturers can milk from the early-adopters for as long as they can get away with it...
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Interesting, but I see the need to 'highlight the superior image quality of 8K TVs' as a short-term, early-adopters issue.

As long as 8K TVs are noticably pricier than 4K TVs of the same size, those that want to 'pay up" for the increased resolution (as well as the vendors selling it) will need to justify the Premium.

But with time, the manufacturing costs of 8K TVs will be little higher than the manufacturing costs of 4K TVs, and nce we reach price parity, it's an easy decision - who wouldn't want 4 times the pixels for the same price?

Screen area is much more fundamental to TV panel cost than resolution, so this whole subject of 'highlighting superior image quality' amounts to how many $$$s the manufacturers can milk from the early-adopters for as long as they can get away with it...
I wonder if 4K Oleds will even be made in...2021. Maybe in smaller sizes.

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I wonder if 4K Oleds will even be made in...2021. Maybe in smaller sizes.
If/when LG decides to go after a slice of the broader market by introducing a 49" (as has been rumored; 49" panels can be layed-up 8-to-a-8.5G-sheet), It woukd surprise me if they do so in 8K. Even 55" 8K is very questionable.

The new 10.5G fab is very efficient at 65" abd 75", so one scenario that seems likely after the new 10.5G fab is ranped-up is:

8.5G for 4K 49" and 55" as well as 8K 88"
10.5G for 8K 65" and 75"

I'll be surprised if LG continues to manufacture 75" (or 77") 4K panels once 75" 8K panels have been introduced (perhaps a year of overlap) and the same may also be true 65" WOLED panels...
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Wow ,now we’re going to start upscaling 1920 to 8k . Great news!

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If/when LG decides to go after a slice of the broader market by introducing a 49" (as has been rumored; 49" panels can be layed-up 8-to-a-8.5G-sheet), It woukd surprise me if they do so in 8K. Even 55" 8K is very questionable.

The new 10.5G fab is very efficient at 65" abd 75", so one scenario that seems likely after the new 10.5G fab is ranped-up is:

8.5G for 4K 49" and 55" as well as 8K 88"
10.5G for 8K 65" and 75"

I'll be surprised if LG continues to manufacture 75" (or 77") 4K panels once 75" 8K panels have been introduced (perhaps a year of overlap) and the same may also be true 65" WOLED panels...
Samsung is already selling a 65" 8K in Europe now. So...LG will want to compete with a 65" as soon as possible I would suspect.

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Well,talking of smaller OLED TV"S!


Japan OLED shows off printed OLED TV & monitor panels

OLED monitors panels & more
The company also showcased three 21.6-inch OLED panels intended for monitors. These include a Full HD version for gaming monitors, a 4K version that will be included in the soon-to-be released Asus PQ22UC, and a 4K version for medical monitors.

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If/when LG decides to go after a slice of the broader market by introducing a 49" (as has been rumored; 49" panels can be layed-up 8-to-a-8.5G-sheet), It woukd surprise me if they do so in 8K. Even 55" 8K is very questionable.

The new 10.5G fab is very efficient at 65" abd 75", so one scenario that seems likely after the new 10.5G fab is ranped-up is:

8.5G for 4K 49" and 55" as well as 8K 88"
10.5G for 8K 65" and 75"

I'll be surprised if LG continues to manufacture 75" (or 77") 4K panels once 75" 8K panels have been introduced (perhaps a year of overlap) and the same may also be true 65" WOLED panels...
Doubt Lg will be stopping production of 4k 65" Oleds anytime soon, there big sellers both sides of the pond, at this point people en masse arn't going to want to pay the extra for 8k if it's forced through to soon.
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Samsung is already selling a 65" 8K in Europe now. So...LG will want to compete with a 65" as soon as possible I would suspect.
Yes, but they are selling very few of them: https://advanced-television.com/2018...-expectations/

"IHS Markit says that sales of 8K sets are below their already modest expectations. At best only 18,000 8K sets will be sold globally this year according to IHS forecasts – well down on its own earlier predictions that some 85,000 units would be sold in 2018."

In addition, 88" marks a new panel-size for LG, and it makes sense for them to focus their efforts on smoothly esablishing that new size (and resolution)offering.

Finally, the 8K broadcast of the 2020 Olympics is widely seen as the starting-gate for 8K desireability. Videophiles interested in 8K are likely to want an 8K TV by then (at least Japenese videophiles ).

LGs 2019 88" 8K TV will be launched with existing bottom-emission technology and I don't see them launching a 65" 8K WOLED before they have top-emission in production (even if Samsung is wildly successful in selling their 65" 8K LED/LCD next year).

So as I said before:

88" 8K in 2019 with a small possibility of 77" 8K as well
75/77" 8K by 2020 with a small possibility of 65" 8K as well

And by the time the new 10.5G WOLED fab is up and running in 2021, it's a near-certainty that we'll see 65" and 75" 8K WOLEDs (both based on top-emission).
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Saw on another thread someone said Sony did not abandon BMD that was in the Z9D. They are bringing it back for an 8K LCD for 2019 or 2020. Hearsay probably?

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Saw on another thread someone said Sony did not abandon BMD that was in the Z9D. They are bringing it back for an 8K LCD for 2019 or 2020. Hearsay probably?


That “chart” that’s floating around regarding the G series mentions BMD as well as Slim BD presumably sometime in 2019 CES will hopefully reveal a roadmap.

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Saw on another thread someone said Sony did not abandon BMD that was in the Z9D. They are bringing it back for an 8K LCD for 2019 or 2020. Hearsay probably?


That “chart” that’s floating around regarding the G series mentions BMD as well as Slim BD presumably sometime in 2019 CES will hopefully reveal a roadmap.
I took a look I saw something with slim back drive but not Master? I take with a grain of salt with some of those charts! Although they do have some predictions right sometimes.

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LG unveils 2019 4K OLED TVs with HDMI 2.1 - C9, E9 & W9
LG C9, E9, W9 4K OLED TVs
LG has announced that its OLED TV line-up for 2019 will comprise the C9, E9, and W9 ranges with 4K resolution as well as B9 that will come a little later in the year. The company also confirmed that its first 8K OLED model will be the Z9.

HDMI 2.1 is the headlining feature. Increased bandwidth now allows for up to 4K at 120 frames per second – also referred to as High Frame Rate (HFR) – inputs via HDMI. Last year’s models also supported HFR but only via streaming input.

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