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What would be better to use for watching 4K+hdr and SDR movies on PC using madVR , PC input mode OR regular HDMI X input mode?

TV : LG OLED 65C8 [U]
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Heya everyone, hope your Monday is not terrible

So I am going to keep my latest C8, I'm sick of swapping them and this one is good enough (really it's pretty good just one bar that makes me cranky in certain scenes). Was looking to get D-Nice to calibrate it while he is in Cali but I think I took too long getting back to him as he has gone dark on schedule availability.
I am in Northern California (about 45 mins from Sacramento) so my options are very limited around here. I want to get all modes done including game sdr/hdr and also a day/night on my older Samsung H7150 1080p.

If any of you have a secondary recommendation on who I should look to that would be much appreciated.

Have a great afternoon.
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Let us know how that works out.


Just ignore him. I made the exact same quote as you.

He claims not to even have a C8 so why is this in this thread. He also posted a screen shot, which was kinda crappy, but appears to me to show that screen shift was turned on.

I pointed him to a test pattern which he can use to measure circles to check for stretch but he continues to compare to his desktop monitor which may be 4096 and he does screen mirroring for his test which is bogus. I asked for the monitor make and model and he never responded.

He got all the same comments in that thread as this one and refuses to believe the help he has solicited from both forums.

We should stop helping at this point.




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I'm relaying what the LG tech told me. He said I was correct, and that the distortion is a result of how the TV's upscaler was designed. He also said that all of LG's OLEDs are built this way. Also, with all of my contact with LG so far, no one from customer support or technical support have even attempted to counter my findings that the screen is actually 4096x2160.

You'd think they would more strongly oppose such claims if they were false. So far, the people on these forums have been the only ones adamant on this issue.

In addition, if the TV was actually 3840x2160 as its advertising claims, it wouldn't distort 16:9 images the way it is, both my machines wouldn't have 4096x2160 as its recommended native resolution, and said 4096x2160 video wouldn't be the only video format not being stretched.

But, believe what you want. I'm gonna believe the guy who works for the company who made the TV and works on said TVs professionally. Right now, I'm just gonna talk to LG for a refund.

The support people and the people that service the TVs in general don't have a clue. Knowing how to swap parts doesn't mean understanding how it actually works. If you asked one of the engineers that actually made the TV, you would get the right answer. The specifications on LG's website says it is a 3840x2160 TV like every other consumer 4K TV on the market. Only high end 4K projectors use movie 4K resolution (which is 4096x2160) or as some people like to call it "real 4K".


So the specs say 3840x2160, the video driver says the native resolution is 3840x2160 because the TV correctly reports this in the EDID data as it should, and as clearly shown in a screenshot someone posted yesterday, and everyone that has dealt with it says it is 3840x2160 as is every other 4k TV. Maybe Samsung's 146" LED wall TV that is supposed to be available is 4096x2160, but no other TV is. All you found in the service manual is a list of supported input formats, and that has nothing to do with the resolution. There are 800x480 micro projectors out there that accept 1920x1080 input and scale it. That doesn't mean they are 1920x1080 resolution.
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Just ignore him. I made the exact same quote as you.

He claims not to even have a C8 so why is this in this thread.
Ah right yes, a troll. It does exhibit all the behaviours of one. It was too obvious for me to believe he'd even try that.

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Yes, besides there's nothing left to say. He's got the world's only consumer TV with a 4,096x2,160 panel, "confirmed" (LOL!) by a technician, and he's going to get a refund. He claims he came here asking for help, and has told us all we're wrong and he's right.

Meanwhile the rest of us have the TV as designed with a UHD panel (3,840x2,160) as stated everywhere in the world.

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Ah right yes, a troll. It does exhibit all the behaviours of one. It was too obvious for me to believe he'd even try that.



Yes, besides there's nothing left to say. He's got the world's only consumer TV with a 4,096x2,160 panel, "confirmed" (LOL!) by a technician, and he's going to get a refund. He claims he came here asking for help, and has told us all we're wrong and he's right.

Meanwhile the rest of us have the TV as designed with a UHD panel (3,840x2,160) as stated everywhere in the world.
He should sell it on ebay. He has a true one of a kind
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I just had a 2018 C8 delivered for my parents through Amazon. Delivery was great. About an hour into usage, though, while watching YouTube, the set suddenly turned off. I turned it back on and it turned back off. Turned it on again and stayed on but then there was a horizontal black line across the center of the screen and some weird image-retention-looking effect on all inputs. Power and off issue was ongoing -- sometimes immediate, sometimes a couple of minutes. And again, on all inputs. Also, when it powered off, the red light was on -- so I guess into standby. Anyway, called Amazon and a replacement is coming in a few days. They were great. This seems really odd. I've bought many TVs over my lifetime (including a B6) and am very tech savvy. Never had anything like this happen. Anyone have any insight? Faulty power board? It was plugged into a quality power strip.
Just bad luck - occasionally these things come dead on arrival. Perhaps it was damaged during shipping or it was just a dud to begin with. Glad to hear that Amazon is replacing it for you!
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I’ve noticed somthing kind of odd on my new c8. When things come out of pure black they get bright for a second. It’s hard to explain. But in a show with low bitrate that has micro blocking just above black the blocks with show up very noticeable as they dance off and on. If I pause the blocks stop dancing and are way less bright and noticeable. I play the same video on my b7 and this micro blocking is much much less noticeable.
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Has anyone heard anything about the on/off issue with the Edge Enhancer. According to RTINGS, leaving it ON actually is a bypass setting so it sounds like when it's 'on' it's actually off. Is this correct?
you have edge enhancer option on yours? my southeast asian 65 C8 does not have edge enhancer option.
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I’ve noticed somthing kind of odd on my new c8. When things come out of pure black they get bright for a second. It’s hard to explain. But in a show with low bitrate that has micro blocking just above black the blocks with show up very noticeable as they dance off and on. If I pause the blocks stop dancing and are way less bright and noticeable. I play the same video on my b7 and this micro blocking is much much less noticeable.
Does it look like this?


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Has anyone encountered this issue? I have had the OLED55E8 since beginning of July with no problems except for a few rare instances until tonight.

I have Verizon FIOS cable and noticed a couple of brief situations when changing channels over the last month and a half of a particular channel displaying white noise. Tonight I turn the TV on with my sound going through my Onkyo receiver but only white noise - that remains! I never had this issue with my previous panel of 7 years. It's like the cable picture signal goes out but I don't know why. I was able to access the Settings with no problem but couldn't find a solution. I was about to consider a factory reset when the issue corrected itself.

I had checked for new firmware updates but none were available. I hope this doesn't reoccur but have no idea what is up and how to eliminate it.
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Can anyone post a picture of the c8 wall mounted? Preferably the 77c8. I can’t seem to find pictures of this tv without the stand.

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Can anyone post a picture of the c8 wall mounted? Preferably the 77c8. I can’t seem to find pictures of this tv without the stand.

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??? It will look like a featureless rectangle with no stand.
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Soap Opera Effect

Hi,

I purchased a C8 65 last night and although the picture is amazing I'm having soap opera effect issues with some shows/movies. I turned tru motion off which helped a lot but didn't completely clear the issue up. Is there anything else I need to change?

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Hi,

I purchased a C8 65 last night and although the picture is amazing I'm having soap opera effect issues with some shows/movies. I turned tru motion off which helped a lot but didn't completely clear the issue up. Is there anything else I need to change?

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anyone's C8, have some hues on the white screens mines like a blueish/reddish... no dead pixels, or banding that I can see other than the hue.
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^mine has the same hues if I pull up a full white screen...but in real world content I dont notice it.
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Here’s mine ... only noticed it in Overwatch home screen on Overwatch, now that it’s white. And on the white fake boarders while your tv is sleeping.

I don’t have any dead pixels on any of the channels or stuck pixels on the black.

I did not notice any significant banding that appears on 30%-15%

So I don’t know if I should start a warranty claim with LG or square trade since I am well outside my window for amazon... thoughts ?

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Here's mine...imo yours doesnt look so bad, and if your banding is not bad, I would keep it.
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Mine doesn’t have any banding until 5% and that’s hard to see. So I consider mine Band free. No dead pixels on CYMKRGB or stuck pixels.

Have about 200 hours on it I’m guessing.

That’s as bad as mine gets looks like ours are similar. It’s taken me over a year to find a tv with no dead pixels or banding but should I try to play the warranty game or do I have a good panel?

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^that's a keeper imo.
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^that's a keeper imo.
Did you look at image? I just can’t tell if it’s super bad or try the pannel lottery?
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^yes I saw your photos...imo your set is good...if you wanna exchange it's on you but your gambling and might recieve a worse one.
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^yes I saw your photos...imo your set is good...if you wanna exchange it's on you but your gambling and might recieve a worse one.
well if mine is normal or okay then there isn’t a reason. I felt mine was bad but I’m not on here much so it very well could be within the scope of normal.... that I don’t know, I remember tho getting my b7, which had a dead pixel no banding got a new tv with no dead pixels but horrid banding.

Idk what to do.
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^you might be overthinking it. I dont think I've ever seen a screen that is perfect white. Enjoy your set and if it's good in regards to pixels dead or stuck and uniformity then your good to go.
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^you might be overthinking it. I dont think I've ever seen a screen that is perfect white. Enjoy your set and if it's good in regards to pixels dead or stuck and uniformity then your good to go.
Thanks for the reassurance I figured I would ask before I did something stupid and regretful again
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Thanks for the reassurance I figured I would ask before I did something stupid and regretful again


Yours looks superb to me. My new 77 has a slight pink tint like yours but it doesn’t bother me as, like yours, there is no banding, no dead pixels etc. My power supply buzzes on dark scenes but because the screen is so good I don’t want a replacement, I’m going to get the power supply itself swapped out.

So, for what it’s worth, yours is definitely a keeper… Looks fantastic.


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Does it look like this?


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Yes looks similar to that but I see it more when things just come out of black.
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I think the hues on an all white screen is pretty normal - The blue/red hue / unevenness on a full white screen is from the anti-reflective coating on the screen I believe. You might notice that it gets better / worse depending on the angle you look at it too. From where I sit, the left side of the TV has a more bluish hue and a more pinkish hue on the right side. But if I sit on the other end of the couch, the pink hue goes away on the right side.

Like others have said, in normal content it is not really noticeable - some title screens / loading screens may be where it is noticeable. As a monitor for a PC, I could definitely see it being annoying though where you encounter a lot of white background web pages.
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