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Anyone having issues with Prime Video freezing or changing inputs after the last software update? 4.10.05. Already tried reinstalling the app. It’s annoying. Sometimes it will just lock up other times even switch inputs.
I have had the same issues with Jack Ryan over Prime since the update. I changed over to the Apple TV Prime app and no further issues. Annoying though. Let me know if you figure it out.
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LG C8 reflections in a bright room

I currently own a SAMSUNG LCD. I'm thinking about getting an OLED, LG C8. I have a room with many windows on the side. Will I be able to watch TV in the daytime or will the picture be washed out? Any advise from owners of both SAMSUNG LCD and LG OLED will be appreciated.

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I currently own a SAMSUNG LCD. I'm thinking about getting an OLED, LG C8. I have a room with many windows on the side. Will I be able to watch TV in the daytime or will the picture be washed out? Any advise from owners of both SAMSUNG LCD and LG OLED will be appreciated.
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I have a problem with brightness adjustment in HDR and DV modes on my 77 C8, which is kind of annoying. The brightness regulates down in bright scenes and up again in the next scene when the content becomes darker. All post processing settings are set off. Is this a bug? Maybe with the 4.10 FW? It seems a little like the brightness problems some of you have experienced in SDR with the new FW. With the difference that in my case only HDR and DV are affected. Has anyone watched this too?

I did some testing regarding the ABL dimming.

In SDR the dimming/undimming is pretty much instant. On a scene change where ABL kicks in the new scene is dimmed as soon as it appears so it's not much noticable that ABL has even kicked in. Also in SDR reducing oled-light reduces the effectiveness of ABL.

In HDR though, while the dimming is almost instant the undimming isn't. It's delayed by like 1 second, so on a scene change this can be very noticable where after 1 second the picture suddenly gets brighter. Also in HDR reducing oled-light doesn't reduce the effect ABL has, so forget what I told you earlier for testing, that only applies to SDR.


Now the big question is: Was the ABL dimming in HDR delayed like that before the 04.10.05 fw update or not?
I have never really tested this before, so maybe it's always been like that and I just didn't notice.

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Thanks for info. I am planning to purchase soudbar(without ATMOS) later but if E8 sound good enough for watching cartoons and movies in the evening I will stick only to E8...
Do you think that I should think about external soundbar?How does E8 look mounted on the wall? Thanks
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I've actually had both in the 55" size. I think that the E8 sounds substantially better. I'm sure the forward-facing speakers make a big difference here. I like the build a lot better too. But yeah, there is no difference if you care solely about the picture quality.
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Do you have E8 mounted on the wall? Doesn't it look strange with the bottom glass? If the sound from E8 sounds good enough I will not buy a soundbar.

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If you use an external soundbar or AV receiver, then the only difference is aesthetics. The E8 screen is glass and the pedestal looks different.

I have the TV mounted on the wall and sit about 15' back and use a soundbar, so I wouldn't be able to tell the difference between one or the other.
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Is the sound from E8 good enough for general purposes?Thanks
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Marginally better sound...nothing to cry home about.
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Do you have E8 mounted on the wall? Doesn't it look strange with the bottom glass? If the sound from E8 sounds good enough I will not buy a soundbar.
I have the C8 with the SK10Y.
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Do you have E8 mounted on the wall? Doesn't it look strange with the bottom glass? If the sound from E8 sounds good enough I will not buy a soundbar.
I have my e8 mounted and think it looks great

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Is the sound from E8 good enough for general purposes?Thanks
I was able to test both of them for fun earlier this year but didnt notice much of a difference, but others might...I just think if you can save your money then do so, most vendors wanna make money so they tell you otherwise.
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I currently own a SAMSUNG LCD. I'm thinking about getting an OLED, LG C8. I have a room with many windows on the side. Will I be able to watch TV in the daytime or will the picture be washed out? Any advise from owners of both SAMSUNG LCD and LG OLED will be appreciated.
I am ~10 days into an LG C8, coming from a Samsung ES8000.

My set-up has my display wall-mounted in a corner on an articulating mount so the on-angle view points pretty closely to the opposite corner of the room. To the immediate left of the set are two very large side-by-side windows. This wall is open to the yard (north-facing) and gets a lot of summer light, but very little directly on the display. Next wall (moving left) is two of the same windows, plus a primarily glass door. This wall looks out on a patio which is pretty shaded by a overhead vines - very little direct light, but still a fair bit of ambient light. Third "wall" is open space to a dining room, with two skylights very close to the "wall" in the family room. Fourth wall is wall, with a built-in desk space and a doorway arch just to the right of the display.

I can't speak to direct light coming onto the display from a window and how that would present itself. And, I was also concerned about off-angle viewing (as you might expect with a display mounted in a corner), influencing my choise between OLED vs LCD.

My LG C8 presents an improved picture in terms of color vibrancy / wash-out in bright day-time viewing compared to my older Samsung LCD, but sometimes has a very slightly higher level of reflections from here and there. It has not been a disappointment thus far, and super happy with the replacement. I did a lot of research worrying about my bright room conditions during the day, thinking maybe LCD made sense (as I did years ago); I believe an OLED like the LG will provide more than enough color without wash-out worries barring some extreme circumstances.
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The sound is pretty good as well

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My set-up has my display wall-mounted in a corner on an articulating mount so the on-angle view points pretty closely to the opposite corner of the room.
what articulating mount do you use?
i have less than 5 days to find a mount or else settle for a tv stand. My mounting situation is almost exactly as you described to the T.
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Do you have E8 mounted on the wall? Doesn't it look strange with the bottom glass? If the sound from E8 sounds good enough I will not buy a soundbar.
We have the E8 mounted on the wall. It looks fine but obviously you have the black speaker strip and the glass strip. For the clean look the C8 would be better in my opinion. We got the E8 because long term we plan on using the stand (moving in the spring)...and if you are using the stand the glass really looks great.

In terms of the E8 sound it is better than I expected. I am using my sonos soundbar and sub, but would be content with the TV sound if that was all I had. Obviously you are going to miss out on the bass of a dedicated sub.
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what articulating mount do you use?
i have less than 5 days to find a mount or else settle for a tv stand. My mounting situation is almost exactly as you described to the T.
It is a Sanus mount, listed as LF228. I bought it 6 years ago. It doesn't look like it has changed much in the intervening years, except perhaps for tilt availability. Note that is also fixed vertically - I can pull it out or push it back from the wall, and rotate the screen over a wide range of angles, but it doesn't lower or raise the height of the display.

(https://www.sanus.com/en_US/products/mounts/lf228/)
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Just out of curiosity thought I'd test what the default sharpness of 10 does to the picture compared to 0.



As you can see it turns the arrows into blobs and adds some pixels that shouldn't be there.

That's not good! Sometimes the image of lower res stuff can look too soft at sharpness 0, wish there was a sweet spot without too much distortion.
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Do all 77 C8 have this lower/higher brightness issue or some?
Is it on both HDR and DV?
Mine is due this week and got rid of my projector because HDR just doesn’t cut it.
I don’t think I would be happy at all if my C8 does this.
The E7 I have is flawless with DV/HDR content.
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Do all 77 C8 have this lower/higher brightness issue or some?
Is it on both HDR and DV?
Mine is due this week and got rid of my projector because HDR just doesn’t cut it.
I don’t think I would be happy at all if my C8 does this.
The E7 I have is flawless with DV/HDR content.
If you're talking about instances were the image will suddenly brighten or darken, specifically with Dolby Vision content. Then yes, I have noticed it. Seems like a software glitch.
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Interesting.
I wonder why some see the HDR/DV brightness issue while others do not.
Do you have the latest software?

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^could be panel variance along with individual tolerance.
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That's not good! Sometimes the image of lower res stuff can look too soft at sharpness 0, wish there was a sweet spot without too much distortion.


I agree, totally!
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If you're talking about instances were the image will suddenly brighten or darken, specifically with Dolby Vision content. Then yes, I have noticed it. Seems like a software glitch.


I kinda assumed it was ABL, but does bother me. Notice it’s usually on reversals . Can really feel it when it cuts back and fourth.

Check out episode 8 of punisher on Netflix. 25 mins in. Dolby Vision.
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for those that have wall mounted tv, did you lay the tv facedown flat on the ground for assembling vesa mount plate before picking it up to put on wall? anything a total clueless guy shouldn't do?
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for those that have wall mounted tv, did you lay the tv facedown flat on the ground for assembling vesa mount plate before picking it up to put on wall? anything a total clueless guy shouldn't do?
We wall mounted a bedroom tv and just placed the panel face down on the bed to attach the vesa mount plate. However, it was only a 32". If it's a bigger panel, laying it face down on a carpeted surface should be ok.
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TV's are at there most fragile point when laid down. So be careful.
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Thanks for your information in terms of that brightness adjustment in HDR and DV. I observe it exactly like you describe, ABL is kicking in with that about 1 second delay. Very annoying. I wrote an email to LG support and reported this. Please do also take these three minutes and report it to LG. This is the only way we can hope for a quick fix.
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for those that have wall mounted tv, did you lay the tv facedown flat on the ground for assembling vesa mount plate before picking it up to put on wall? anything a total clueless guy shouldn't do?
I just wall mounted a 77” and attached the brackets to the tv while it was still secure in the bottom part of the box. I just had to cut out some of the styrofoam around the mounting holes but it was pretty easy.
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That's not good! Sometimes the image of lower res stuff can look too soft at sharpness 0, wish there was a sweet spot without too much distortion.
I'm not saying to put sharpness to 0 for everything, only for high quality content like uhd-bluray. Of course upscaled lower res content is a totally different matter and might look too soft at 0.
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