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Hello my friends!After the latest update to my E8 I have a big problem!My receiver Marantz 5011 before update everything perfect with ARC!Now I do everything and ARC did not work!Please help me..
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Hello my friends!After the latest update to my E8 I have a big problem!My receiver Marantz 5011 before update everything perfect with ARC!Now I do everything and ARC did not work!Please help me..
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Search here - issue has been addressed numerous times https://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-re...hread-156.html

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Could you attach some picture please?
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I have my e8 mounted and think it looks great
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Thanks.Could you attach some picture please?
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We have the E8 mounted on the wall. It looks fine but obviously you have the black speaker strip and the glass strip. For the clean look the C8 would be better in my opinion. We got the E8 because long term we plan on using the stand (moving in the spring)...and if you are using the stand the glass really looks great.

In terms of the E8 sound it is better than I expected. I am using my sonos soundbar and sub, but would be content with the TV sound if that was all I had. Obviously you are going to miss out on the bass of a dedicated sub.
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Bob Brennan thank you for your answer!I search in the topic of marantz but I didn't find something!I don't think the problem is marantz!The problem appears with the latest update to my E8!I speak to LG and with Marantz no-one give me answer!I don't know what to do..
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My LG C8 presents an improved picture in terms of color vibrancy / wash-out in bright day-time viewing compared to my older Samsung LCD, but sometimes has a very slightly higher level of reflections from here and there. It has not been a disappointment thus far, and super happy with the replacement. I did a lot of research worrying about my bright room conditions during the day, thinking maybe LCD made sense (as I did years ago); I believe an OLED like the LG will provide more than enough color without wash-out worries barring some extreme circumstances.

Thanks for this. I have some direct on TV light issues as well and was very concerned about this. Most of my watching is at night, but there is enough daylight watching that it is a concern.
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That's not good! Sometimes the image of lower res stuff can look too soft at sharpness 0, wish there was a sweet spot without too much distortion.
Lg has a few recommendation depending on room lighting and mode (standard, cinema ect).

https://www.lg.com/us/support/produc...-menu-settings

My understanding is, unlike many TV's, Oleds have active sharpening AND softening. 25 being the neutral point. I find on my 2016 (3D) model 25 seems a little to sharp on 2D standard blurays. I ended settling on 22. But it seems to vary a bit from disc to disc, scene to scene. 3D I found can run 50 (max sharpness) and looks awesome, tv holds completely separate settings for 2D vs 3D.

Standard DVD discs seem happiest with 25ish. But to much effort to adjust for every disc, and not that much visual difference, so I just leave it on 22 mostly. In the end you need to see what looks best to your eyes.

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Lg has a few recommendation depending on room lighting and mode (standard, cinema ect).

https://www.lg.com/us/support/produc...-menu-settings

My understanding is, unlike many TV's, Oleds have active sharpening AND softening. 25 being the neutral point. I find on my 2016 (3D) model 25 seems a little to sharp on 2D standard blurays. I ended settling on 22. But it seems to vary a bit from disc to disc, scene to scene. 3D I found can run 50 (max sharpness) and looks awesome, tv holds completely separate settings for 2D vs 3D.

Standard DVD discs seem happiest with 25ish. But to much effort to adjust for every disc, and not that much visual difference, so I just leave it on 22 mostly. In the end you need to see what looks best to your eyes.
Are you saying that sharpness 0 is introducing softening? This is new to me? Where did you get that info? Since many tend to suggest to set the sharpening control to zero, this has implication here!
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Are you saying that sharpness 0 is introducing softening? This is new to me? Where did you get that info? Since many tend to suggest to set the sharpening control to zero, this has implication here!
Yes. Read it in an article some time back on calibration. Some LG's, along some Sony's (the more expensive models), actively do both. Mid point (25) being no softening or sharpening. You can see in the linked page LG recommend 30, 25 and 10 (depending on mode and room lighting).

And it's what I see with my eyes too. "50" creates shimmering around buildings, hair for example. "0" lacks definition/clarity...looks like a lower resolution. 25 generally looks great-ish...bit a hair to sharp for me (on 2D) disc's. I usual have lights on in the room and like "standard" mode (w2 for a touch of warmth)...for me, as you can see, LG's starting recommendation is sharpness 25.

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Yes. Read it in an article some time back on calibration. Some LG's, along some Sony's (the more expensive models), actively do both. Mid point (25) being no softening or sharpening. You can see in the linked page LG recommend 30, 25 and 10 (depending on mode and room lighting).

And it's what I see with my eyes too. "50" creates shimmering around buildings, hair for example. "0" lacks definition/clarity...looks like a lower resolution. 25 generally looks great-ish...bit a hair to sharp for me (on 2D) disc's. I usual have lights on in the room and like "standard" mode (w2 for a touch of warmth)...for me, as you can see, LG's starting recommendation is sharpness 25.

https://www.lg.com/us/support/produc...-menu-settings
I am not sure this apply to all modes. From the RTings suggested settings page:

The 'ISF Expert (Dark Room)' picture mode was selected since it most closely matched our calibration goals.
... and left 'Sharpness' at 0 since we don't want to add any sharpness. When in 'PC Mode', 'Sharpness' should be set to 20 for no added sharpness or softening.

Personally, I do add some sharpness on SD content.
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What LG recommends on their webpage and what is accurate are two completely different things.
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Interesting.
I wonder why some see the HDR/DV brightness issue while others do not.
Do you have the latest software?
I was referring to how bright my 77C8 is in a moderately bright room with windows on one side, in response to another question.

That said, I do have the latest update, and I haven't noticed the HDR/DV brightness issue. I haven't looked for it, but I also haven't noticed it. YMMV...

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I currently own a SAMSUNG LCD. I'm thinking about getting an OLED, LG C8. I have a room with many windows on the side. Will I be able to watch TV in the daytime or will the picture be washed out? Any advise from owners of both SAMSUNG LCD and LG OLED will be appreciated.
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I haven't had any issue. My 77C8 is plenty bright enough, and not washed out in the least bit. Non-issues, as far as I'm concerned.
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for those that have wall mounted tv, did you lay the tv facedown flat on the ground for assembling vesa mount plate before picking it up to put on wall? anything a total clueless guy shouldn't do?
I had to lay mine down once, to put the stand on initially (temporary, before I wall-mounted it), and used the styrofoam packing inserts that it came in. No issues for me...

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I am not sure this apply to all modes. From the RTings suggested settings page:

The 'ISF Expert (Dark Room)' picture mode was selected since it most closely matched our calibration goals.
... and left 'Sharpness' at 0 since we don't want to add any sharpness. When in 'PC Mode', 'Sharpness' should be set to 20 for no added sharpness or softening.

Personally, I do add some sharpness on SD content.
Yep, Ratings (and many calibrators) made/make the common mistake of assuming "0" is nothing added when 25 is nothing added...or taken away. And with 99% of tv's this is correct according to the article I read. But LG's are one of the few exceptions.

Again, you can see LG's own recommendations here https://www.lg.com/us/support/produc...-menu-settings

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I am not sure this apply to all modes. From the RTings suggested settings page:

The 'ISF Expert (Dark Room)' picture mode was selected since it most closely matched our calibration goals.
... and left 'Sharpness' at 0 since we don't want to add any sharpness. When in 'PC Mode', 'Sharpness' should be set to 20 for no added sharpness or softening.

Personally, I do add some sharpness on SD content.
I have mine all set at 10. One of the articles on recommended settings (don't recall if it was CNET, hdflatpanels, or what) mentioned that 10 was the "neutral" setting, and a number of the recommended settings have it at 10.

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Thanks for this. I have some direct on TV light issues as well and was very concerned about this. Most of my watching is at night, but there is enough daylight watching that it is a concern.
Depends on how much direct light, and for how long...

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What LG recommends on their webpage and what is accurate are two completely different things.
So true. What looks best to your eyes is the winning ticket for sure.

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I realize most guys on here hate Trumotion and leave it off, but I kind of like the soap opera effect. When I change the settings to clear, the actors on the screen seem almost 3D and the image seems to pop more. The issue with this setting is I get artifacts appearing on the screen during any motion. More like a blur around the actors when they move. Hard to describe but I'm certain most of you know what I'm trying to say.

Has anybody found a good user setting for trumotion that gives the soap opera effect with less artifact issues being introduced? I mostly watch HD cable tv if that matters at all.
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Thanks for this. I have some direct on TV light issues as well and was very concerned about this. Most of my watching is at night, but there is enough daylight watching that it is a concern.

Just to add, I installed a C8 in the bedroom this weekend. It has two windows, including one just to the left of the display that is west facing, so afternoon light is intense. Like a few other posters this replaced a Samsung LCD (KS8000). All I will say is the OLED compared to the 2 year old Samsung is like taking a knife to a gun fight If I remember correctly Rtings thought highly of the Samsung too.



Was doing some late night watching as the wife was sleeping away, there was a scene in the movie where things went black and for a moment I thought the display had turned off. Even with an OLED downstairs, I had forgotten just how well black is done. The LCD would have glowed, but that's not a big deal - see LCD threads

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Just curious for those who upgraded to the latest firmware since comments about it seem to be a mixed bag. Is the aggressive dimming more prevalent with the 77" displays or is across the board. I am getting tired of clearing the update notification every time I turn on the display for use with an external source. At the same time I'm pleased with how things look/work - so I can live with it if those who've updated feel that LG needs to address this with the next update. Thanks all.
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^it seems that way for the 77..I installed the new software and other than changing a few settings everything is fine on mine.
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^it seems that way for the 77..I installed the new software and other than changing a few settings everything is fine on mine.
Same here. Have never noticed the brightness issue before or after installing new firmware or any other changes except for the Technicolor default mode numbers changing. I don't use that mode at all so no biggie.
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What LG recommends on their webpage and what is accurate are two completely different things.
Indeed. Zero is definitely the neutral setting, established as a fact only yesterday on this thread with a certain very helpful animated GIF
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I have mine all set at 10. One of the articles on recommended settings (don't recall if it was CNET, hdflatpanels, or what) mentioned that 10 was the "neutral" setting, and a number of the recommended settings have it at 10.
LG recommends sharpness 10 for "expert dark room" mode. 25 for "standard" mode. 30 for vivid mode. Just as starting points and fine tuning to your liking up/down from there.

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Indeed. Zero is definitely the neutral setting, established as a fact only yesterday on this thread with a certain very helpful animated GIF
So “0” is what we want for sure? After my calibration that was what I have in the modes I use.

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So “0” is what we want for sure? After my calibration that was what I have in the modes I use.
Unless your source is blurry, e.g. subtitles are fuzzy, it should be zero.
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