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^ you can safely adjust the OLED light setting to your liking.
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So, according to various sources I am assured that the OLED Light setting does not adversely affect picture quality and therefore my new calibration settings are safe if I am to tweak it slightly if required. However, I'm not so sure that I actually believe this statement to be true. Can anybody comment on this for reassurement?

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I asked this question in the calibration thread. Answer is here: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/139-d...l#post57270412

"... this will undo your calibration and add some errors".
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I asked this question in the calibration thread. Answer is here: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/139-d...l#post57270412

"... this will undo your calibration and add some errors".
Interesting, thanks.

So basically, don't touch anything!
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Interesting, thanks.

So basically, don't touch anything!
I haven't got round to calibrating mine yet, but Ted knows what he's talking about :-)

Typically a calibrator should calibrate a 'day' mode and a 'night' mode.

My old LG plasma had a 'panel light' which operated in the same way as oled light, and that would completely change gamma and colour accuracy if changed.

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Awesome, let's hope there will be an official response from LG soon. Also with this article it might be a lot easier to get a replacement as you can just direct them to this article so they can't play dumb or portray it as a source problem
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should I update firmware

Just received my new 55E8 and the out of the box picture is looking great. The TV still has the original OEM firmware and Im not sure if I should do the firmware update 04.10.15.
Can someone tell me the advantages vs disadvantages of updating to new firmware?
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Just received my new 55E8 and the out of the box picture is looking great. The TV still has the original OEM firmware and Im not sure if I should do the firmware update 04.10.15.
Can someone tell me the advantages vs disadvantages of updating to new firmware?
LG fixed the brightness change delays on HDR with this FW update (04.10.15). Worth upgrading

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I had my 65 E8 professionally THX Calibrated yesterday and have to say some of the resulting settings are quite surprising.
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Who did your calibration?
Dr Julian Scott

http://www.displaycalibration.co.uk/...our-calibrator

For anyone in the UK I would definitely recommend him. He went above and beyond for me when a little extra time and effort was needed.

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IF your panel had that issue. If not, there isn't any perceivable changes that I can see.

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I'm sorry, I'm still confused. Does the red power button initiate the compensation cycle? "Standby Power" tries to get the remote to control the set top box
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Ok guys, I have an issue with my 77C8. Need some help figuring out what it is or if anyone else has experienced it.

On dark scenes, when there’s a fire or molten lava (like the scene in Jurassic World Fallen Kindom where its dark and lava in running down the mountain) is anyone else having like a glitchy thing happen around the light area?

I don’t really know what to call it. Maybe artifacting? Basically, with motion handling on, anytime there is a dark scene with some type of light, whether it be a light bulb panning, fire, lava, or any **** like that that might have a flickering light on a dark scene, a glitchy thing around the light source happens.

With truemotion off, it does not do it. If not for this one glitchy thing, this tv and its motion handling would be as close to perfect for me as it can get. But the **** drives me crazy.

Any thoughts, fixes, opinions, or if anyone can just tell me what the hell it is so I can look up how to fix it or if its just an LG motion thing would be GREATLY appreciated.

Anyone wanting to test my issue on there own tv to make a conclusion, Alpha is a great movie to test. Lots of fire scenes, and lots of me cursing the damn tv cuz of the issue.

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^^ I think it is macro-blocking and it is mentioned in just about every page on this forum. No fix for it yet. Maybe let it age a bit and should smooth out!
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Hi All,

Is burn in possible watching movies with letterboxed black borders and if so what exactly lg wants us to watch. I hear one can have burnin watching news, sports with static logos, all letterboxed movies( which are almost all movies).So except watching series I don’t think I can watch anything on this tv.

I understand ppl telling vary the content but how much variation do I have to do, sud I be watching content or keep thinking of all these scenarios


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I need advice on an extension for the power cable, so I can hide it in the arm of my mount. Will any standard extension do the trick?
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Is burn in possible watching movies with letterboxed black borders and if so what exactly lg wants us to watch. I hear one can have burnin watching news, sports with static logos, all letterboxed movies( which are almost all movies).So except watching series I don’t think I can watch anything on this tv.
There's several threads on this forum specifically addressing the burn-in issue. That's a great place to start, as they discuss people's experiences with the set from watching various types of content, test results from rtings.com, and they also provide opinions and suggestions from some knowledgeable folks about the likelihood of burn-in, how to avoid or minimize it, etc.

Here's a link to the "Master Image Retention/Burn-In thread, but there are other threads as well.

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^^ I think it is macro-blocking and it is mentioned in just about every page on this forum. No fix for it yet. Maybe let it age a bit and should smooth out!
The issue I’m having is not with the blacks though. No blocking or flashing of the blacks. It’s with the light source object such as a fire. The light from the fire breaks up and get glitchy in the localized area its in almost as though you’re looking at it through gaseous haze or through heat waves. It’s very strange and hard to explain and I cant find any other examples of it anywhere.

Is that what they are considering macro blocking or some form of macroblocking?

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The issue I’m having is not with the blacks though. No blocking or flashing of the blacks. It’s with the light source object such as a fire. The light from the fire breaks up and get glitchy in the localized area its in almost as though you’re looking at it through gaseous haze or through heat waves. It’s very strange and hard to explain and I cant find any other examples of it anywhere.

Is that what they are considering macro blocking or some form of macroblocking?
If it doesn't occur when Trumotion is off, it's likely interpolation artifacts. Motion interpolation algorithms can have a hard time with fire and also anything fast moving like hands etc.
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ari821, the short answer is that image retention/burn-in is a risk (like it was with plasma), and it seems the real risk is if you watch things like CNN or MSNBC every day for hours at a time. If you vary your content, I think the consensus is that it is unlikely to present a serious problem, at least over the first, say, 10,000 hours. But the jury is still out to some extent, as LG has made improvements in the set each year and people have not had the 2018 sets for that long. Most of the test results and bad experiences seem to be with 2015 and 2016 sets. But show knows what will happen when we're looking at our sets in 2022.

Another common suggestion is not to set OLED light too high. I have mine set at 30 and others seem to try to keep it below 50. Along with varying content, my understanding is that this should help.

I also think that there are many of us who think the risk is somewhat overblown. What I mean is, you have to enjoy your set, right?. As long as you do sensible things - don't keep it in torch mode and watch CNN all day -- I think you should enjoy the set and don't obsess about it.

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If it doesn't occur when Trumotion is off, it's likely interpolation artifacts. Motion interpolation algorithms can have a hard time with fire and also anything fast moving like hands etc.
Is there a setting or series of settings to fix it? Or am I just stuck with the issue if I want to use trumotion?

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Wondering if anyone else here with DirecTV 4k and experiences a 'black out' of about 5 seconds when watching 4k programming? Almost invariably, when I turn on the 4k channel, at some point the screen goes black, the audio drops for a couple of seconds and comes back and then the video returns after 5-6 seconds. This is my first 4k TV and my first 4k DirecTV receiver, so I don't know if it's the TV or the receiver. I suspect the receiver. Anyone else?
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Wondering if anyone else here with DirecTV 4k and experiences a 'black out' of about 5 seconds when watching 4k programming? Almost invariably, when I turn on the 4k channel, at some point the screen goes black, the audio drops for a couple of seconds and comes back and then the video returns after 5-6 seconds. This is my first 4k TV and my first 4k DirecTV receiver, so I don't know if it's the TV or the receiver. I suspect the receiver. Anyone else?
Just log into YouTube or another tv app like Netflix or Amazon and watch some 4K content. If there are no drop outs, then it's the direct tv

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Wondering if anyone else here with DirecTV 4k and experiences a 'black out' of about 5 seconds when watching 4k programming? Almost invariably, when I turn on the 4k channel, at some point the screen goes black, the audio drops for a couple of seconds and comes back and then the video returns after 5-6 seconds. This is my first 4k TV and my first 4k DirecTV receiver, so I don't know if it's the TV or the receiver. I suspect the receiver. Anyone else?
I have experienced the same thing with the 4k Directv receiver. I'm almost positive it's the Directv receiver. When I the technician installed it, he conceded that it can be a "little buggy" from time to time -- which it seems applies to virtually every Directv receiver that has ever existed.
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ari821, the short answer is that image retention/burn-in is a risk (like it was with plasma), and it seems the real risk is if you watch things like CNN or MSNBC every day for hours at a time. If you vary your content, I think the consensus is that it is unlikely to present a serious problem, at least over the first, say, 10,000 hours. But the jury is still out to some extent, as LG has made improvements in the set each year and people have not had the 2018 sets for that long. Most of the test results and bad experiences seem to be with 2015 and 2016 sets. But show knows what will happen when we're looking at out sets in 2022.

Another common suggestion is not to set OLED light too high. I have mine set at 30 and others seem to try to keep it below 50. Along with varying content, my understanding is that this should help.

I also think that there are many of us who think the risk is somewhat overblown. What I mean is, you have to enjoy your set, right?. As long as you do sensible things - don't keep it in torch mode and watch CNN all day -- I think you should enjoy the set and don't obsess about it.

I dont get it. When you watch CNN it isnt hours and hours with the banner and logo etc., because that gets interrupted by commercials. So how can the banners and logo make burn in then?
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Is there a setting or series of settings to fix it? Or am I just stuck with the issue if I want to use trumotion?
You will see fewer artifacts with a lower setting, say 2-3, but I haven't found any setting to be artifact-free, other than 'off'.
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Wondering if anyone else here with DirecTV 4k and experiences a 'black out' of about 5 seconds when watching 4k programming? Almost invariably, when I turn on the 4k channel, at some point the screen goes black, the audio drops for a couple of seconds and comes back and then the video returns after 5-6 seconds. This is my first 4k TV and my first 4k DirecTV receiver, so I don't know if it's the TV or the receiver. I suspect the receiver. Anyone else?
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I dont get it. When you watch CNN it isnt hours and hours with the banner and logo etc., because that gets interrupted by commercials. So how can the banners and logo make burn in then?

Probably because the banners are big, bright and constantly running during broadcast. Commercials only last for about 3 minutes or so but programming can last 10-15 minutes before commercial break, which would be about 50 minutes or so every hour.

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Probably because the banners are big, bright and constantly running during broadcast. Commercials only last for about 3 minutes or so but programming can last 10-15 minutes before commercial break, which would be about 50 minutes or so every hour.

Ok, but that ASBL type number 3 without a name,kicks in after 90 seconds anyway with CNN. So it wouldnt be a big problem i think.
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I dont get it. When you watch CNN it isnt hours and hours with the banner and logo etc., because that gets interrupted by commercials. So how can the banners and logo make burn in then?
It's cumulative :-)
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Ok guys, I have an issue with my 77C8. Need some help figuring out what it is or if anyone else has experienced it.

On dark scenes, when there’s a fire or molten lava (like the scene in Jurassic World Fallen Kindom where its dark and lava in running down the mountain) is anyone else having like a glitchy thing happen around the light area?

I don’t really know what to call it. Maybe artifacting? Basically, with motion handling on, anytime there is a dark scene with some type of light, whether it be a light bulb panning, fire, lava, or any **** like that that might have a flickering light on a dark scene, a glitchy thing around the light source happens.

With truemotion off, it does not do it. If not for this one glitchy thing, this tv and its motion handling would be as close to perfect for me as it can get. But the **** drives me crazy.

Any thoughts, fixes, opinions, or if anyone can just tell me what the hell it is so I can look up how to fix it or if its just an LG motion thing would be GREATLY appreciated.

Anyone wanting to test my issue on there own tv to make a conclusion, Alpha is a great movie to test. Lots of fire scenes, and lots of me cursing the damn tv cuz of the issue.

Thanks for any help.

LG's TrueMotion has a lot of trouble handling scenes with flickering lighting. For example scenes illuminated by fire/candles often cause artifacting. There isn't really anything you can do other than lowering the de-judder setting which might make it less apparent or better completely turn it off. I've now done that while watching the second season of westworld which has a lot of indoor scenes with flickering lighting and was unbearable to watch with TrueMotion. Sony allegedly has better frame interpolation but I haven't had the chance to see that myself yet.

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