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Installed my new 77” C8 yesterday, replacing a JVC 750 front projector. It’s an absolute game changer! After getting settings dialed in, I put on the 4k HDR disc “Rocky Mountain Express” to asses the effect of my settings, it was so involving, sharp, clear and vibrant, I ended up watching the whole thing. Yes, it’s not quite as large as my 120” screen (even moved well forward), but for my eyes, it more than compensates with its outstanding picture quality. I honestly could find to fault at all in it (and I’m quite picky). It just draws you in to the material and really is very much like looking thorough a window.


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Glad you are enjoying your set. Granted I have the 65" but I am still loving mine and I constantly being wow'd with new Blue Ray's and HDR/Dolby Vision programs. I hope you continue to have a good experience and welcome to the OLED world!!
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Unless you went a little overbudget on your HTS and then the LG UBK90 is a nice alternative for a no-frills UHD player. It does play quite nicely with the C8, at least so far.
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Installed my new 77” C8 yesterday, replacing a JVC 750 front projector. It’s an absolute game changer! After getting settings dialed in, I put on the 4k HDR disc “Rocky Mountain Express” to asses the effect of my settings, it was so involving, sharp, clear and vibrant, I ended up watching the whole thing. Yes, it’s not quite as large as my 120” screen (even moved well forward), but for my eyes, it more than compensates with its outstanding picture quality. I honestly could find to fault at all in it (and I’m quite picky). It just draws you in to the material and really is very much like looking thorough a window.
Maybe one day we will have 110"/120" OLED screens
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Glad you are enjoying your set. Granted I have the 65" but I am still loving mine and I constantly being wow'd with new Blue Ray's and HDR/Dolby Vision programs. I hope you continue to have a good experience and welcome to the OLED world!!


Thanks for the kind words! Someone reading this thread might think these panels are plagued with multiple issues, but there are many satisfied owners, and I’m very happy to number myself among them. Very well done LG!


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Reporting back on my C8 purchase, and I am enjoying it thoroughly. Yes I do have some mild black crush and the much discussed macroblocking (eg. chrominance overshoot) from time to time, which is only rarely visible in real life content. Other than that the image is gorgeous and by far the best TV I ever had. It is miles away from any of my previous LCDs, a technology to which I think I will never be able to go back.
HDR looks amazing without any glow, bleed or blooming.

I have now finally purchased a Panasonic UB820 Blu-Ray player to complement my C8. I do have a question to those of you that have this combination: do you enable both HDR Optimizer in the player and the Dynamic Tone Mapping in the TV or only one of them?
Any other settings I should be aware of?


PS. BTW, i find the upscaling of the Panasonic superior to both my old K8500 player and the C8 tv.
Someone posted about this a while back and I recall that he or she felt it best to turn DTM off when using the HDR Optimizer on the Panasonic. I don't yet have the player to test it, but that makes sense to me since utilizing both seems like it would invite errors.
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Maybe one day we will have 110"/120" OLED screens


That would be sweet! As it is, LG produced a statement 8k 88” panel, so it’s just a question of time before they’re introduced and economies of scale kick in to make them affordable. Even 88” OLEDS will likely put a serious dent in front projection (whose days, I fear, are numbered).


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The swing towards this TV being a "keeper" has begun.

I picked up the 4K HDR Blu-rays of Solo and Star Wars - The Last Jedi.

As expected, this non-bit-starved version of The Last Jedi showed none of the macroblocking on black scenes. And thus, none of the flashing either. I also tried the included 1080p blu-ray and it too was much better with only some more obvious blocking (but no flashing) in the dark scenes mentioned prior (35m:05s and 1h:00m:54s). One odd note about the 1080p blu-ray though. They didn't encode the black bars as just pure black. When you increase brightness while watching it, you can see that the bars are made up of various black shades and noise (this doesn't happen on my other blu-rays). Bleh.

The wife and I watched Solo in 4K HDR. Overall, the experience was amazing and has me thinking that this TV is a keeper. I did notice flashing and/or macroblocking in just one scene: Where the "crew" is all gathered around the fire before their first job. The flickering fire set off some macroblocking and flashing off on the horizon while they talked for just a couple seconds. Distracting, but hopefully some day I won't be so sensitive to it and won't even notice (or LG fixes it!). That was the first time I had seen the behavior on a 4K blu-ray.

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Phantom Thread is another movie with elevated black. the pq in bright scenes look so good yet dark scenes cannot take advantage of oled

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For anyone with Atmos surround, the movie Roma on Netflix has amazing sound!
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Sounds like a CEC incompatibility, of which there is very little you can do other than disable ARC/CEC, use an optical cable from tv to your soundbar and a Harmony remote for single remote control of your system. However, you will lose ARC.

I use optical for local HDTV stations via Comcrap and everything else goes thru my receiver then to the tv. Flawless operation with a Harmony remote.
I thought it might be something to do with ARC/CEC but I think it more likely just a default built into the LG firmware. To me, it makes more sense that the C8 should default back to the last used sound out option when there is no ARC feedback. And I can't imagine why anyone would use the option of "internal TV speakers + optical" unless you want an echo effect. Perhaps it is intended to be used in combination with LG soundbars/speakers?

I do have a URC universal remote and I may create a macro that switches the sound out option back to optical any time I turn off my Marantz pre-amp.

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I have the problem addressed somewhat here with needing ARC enabled so I can have ATMOS from TV apps through to AVR. This causes my LG 4K player to turn on and switches input to it. I use the LG player much less frequently than DirecTV, so it is a PIA, particularly for wife.

So solutions seem to be

1. Buy a $25 Lindy CEC eliminator connector and put that between the AVR and LG 4K player
2. Not use the TV internal apps and use a $30 4K FireTV instead.
3. Physically unplug my 4K player and just plug it in when I want to use it

I guess, for $5 more, may as well use a FireTV stick instead, or make the big jump to Shield.

Just crazy because LG can't get it's ARC together it pretty much makes the all their development in internal apps useless for me.
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I thought it might be something to do with ARC/CEC but I think it more likely just a default built into the LG firmware. To me, it makes more sense that the C8 should default back to the last used sound out option when there is no ARC feedback. And I can't imagine why anyone would use the option of "internal TV speakers + optical" unless you want an echo effect. Perhaps it is intended to be used in combination with LG soundbars/speakers?

I do have a URC universal remote and I may create a macro that switches the sound out option back to optical any time I turn off my Marantz pre-amp.
Sound bars are strange beasts. I just turned off the speakers on on my C8 and set audio to optical. The receiver does the rest. No issues whatsoever. Yeah, the Lindy adapter works pretty good for most situations but not all.

I use the LG UBK90 as my blu-ray UHD player and you are not able to disable CEC on it. But with ARC/CEC disabled on the rest of my devices, there's no issues using the Harmony remote and no extra adapters to fiddle with. However, if you want or need ARC, that complicates matters a bit.

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I have the problem addressed somewhat here with needing ARC enabled so I can have ATMOS from TV apps through to AVR. This causes my LG 4K player to turn on and switches input to it. I use the LG player much less frequently than DirecTV, so it is a PIA, particularly for wife.

So solutions seem to be

1. Buy a $25 Lindy CEC eliminator connector and put that between the AVR and LG 4K player
2. Not use the TV internal apps and use a $30 4K FireTV instead.
3. Physically unplug my 4K player and just plug it in when I want to use it

I guess, for $5 more, may as well use a FireTV stick instead, or make the big jump to Shield.

Just crazy because LG can't get it's ARC together it pretty much makes the all their development in internal apps useless for me.
I had a similar problem with my old Samsung TV. My PS3 kept on turning on when a different device was turned off. I solved it by disabling HDMI-CEC on the PS3.

So, you missed out:
4. Don't physically disable the 4K LG player, but disable HDMI-CEC on that player only. If the player doesn't offer you that option (I'd be surprised), then it's the player's fault that you are having to spend the $25, not the TV's. It's the player which is misbehaving!
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I have the problem addressed somewhat here with needing ARC enabled so I can have ATMOS from TV apps through to AVR. This causes my LG 4K player to turn on and switches input to it. I use the LG player much less frequently than DirecTV, so it is a PIA, particularly for wife.

So solutions seem to be

1. Buy a $25 Lindy CEC eliminator connector and put that between the AVR and LG 4K player
2. Not use the TV internal apps and use a $30 4K FireTV instead.
3. Physically unplug my 4K player and just plug it in when I want to use it

I guess, for $5 more, may as well use a FireTV stick instead, or make the big jump to Shield.

Just crazy because LG can't get it's ARC together it pretty much makes the all their development in internal apps useless for me.

same issue i had but with apple tv. i put a lindy on the back of apple tv and that solved that. however, the C8 still sends power signal via CEC to turn on other things, so with ARC on with my Denon, it turns that on too even though I don't want it to sometimes. Putting the Lindy between tv and avr doesn't work and disables ARC.

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I had a similar problem with my old Samsung TV. My PS3 kept on turning on when a different device was turned off. I solved it by disabling HDMI-CEC on the PS3.

So, you missed out:
4. Don't physically disable the 4K LG player, but disable HDMI-CEC on that player only. If the player doesn't offer you that option (I'd be surprised), then it's the player's fault that you are having to spend the $25, not the TV's. It's the player which is misbehaving!
The LG C8 definitely sends signals to power on other things, even if you turn off the power sync in the Simplink menu. Annoying
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D-Nice, I pmed you on the 29th and also commented about pming you after. I see you have made 2-3 comments since then. I don't mean to be rude, but when I come to the site and there is a pm or pm reply, or even a notice from the administrators on here, the page pops up with a notification saying I have them. At least acknowledging, I am alive would be better than getting nothing!!![IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/frown.gif[/IMG]<img src="https://www.avsforum.com/forum/images/AVSForum/smilies/tango_face_sad.png" border="0" alt="" title="Frown" class="inlineimg" />[IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/confused.gif[/IMG]
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I had a similar problem with my old Samsung TV. My PS3 kept on turning on when a different device was turned off. I solved it by disabling HDMI-CEC on the PS3.

So, you missed out:
4. Don't physically disable the 4K LG player, but disable HDMI-CEC on that player only. If the player doesn't offer you that option (I'd be surprised), then it's the player's fault that you are having to spend the $25, not the TV's. It's the player which is misbehaving!
No, I didn't miss on that. It is the player's fault, but it is LG's players! That is why I said LG can't get their ARC together.

They produce a TV which can only pass back ATMOS audio through ARC and produce 4K players which can't shut ARC or CEC off, so no way to work together without the 4K player turning on constantly switching input to itself over other devices.

Here is a thread someone else mentioned as well.

" BTW this UBK90 still can't disable HDMI-CEC (SIMPLINK) similar to the UP970. "
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...=304097&page=3

and another regarding the LG 970.

"That might be the issue that everyone is posting about is that there may not be an issue to disable CEC."
https://www.reddit.com/r/hometheater...n_it_shouldnt/
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D-Nice, I pmed you on the 29th and also commented about pming you after. I see you have made 2-3 comments since then. I don't mean to be rude, but when I come to the site and there is a pm or pm reply, or even a notice from the administrators on here, the page pops up with a notification saying I have them. At least acknowledging, I am alive would be better than getting nothing!!!
My apologies, but I don’t have my account setup in that fashion where I get pop ups. With that being said, i’ll take a look in the PM box and find your PM (yes, I actually do get a lot of PM).
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Does anyone have black crush test pattern in hdr? So far i have only seen the 12x12 test pattern someone posted here and it is in sdr.
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Does anyone have black crush test pattern in hdr? So far i have only seen the 12x12 test pattern someone posted here and it is in sdr.

This free pattern set has one for sure.

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Does anyone have black crush test pattern in hdr? So far i have only seen the 12x12 test pattern someone posted here and it is in sdr.

This free pattern set has one for sure.

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/139-d...terns-set.html
Thanks. I will check it out.

One question: when I watch an hdr movie, if the black bars remain true black throughout, does this mean scenes that have elevated black (e.g a room with no light source yet it's not completely dark) is because of the movie itself, not the tv?
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One question: when I watch an hdr movie, if the black bars remain true black throughout, does this mean scenes that have elevated black (e.g a room with no light source yet it's not completely dark) is because of the movie itself, not the tv?
Yes. Either a mistake (which is very very rare) or more usually, the Director's choice.

Both the black bars and the content between the are coming from the disc (or stream etc).

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Installed my new 77” C8 yesterday, replacing a JVC 750 front projector. It’s an absolute game changer! After getting settings dialed in, I put on the 4k HDR disc “Rocky Mountain Express” to asses the effect of my settings, it was so involving, sharp, clear and vibrant, I ended up watching the whole thing. Yes, it’s not quite as large as my 120” screen (even moved well forward), but for my eyes, it more than compensates with its outstanding picture quality. I honestly could find to fault at all in it (and I’m quite picky). It just draws you in to the material and really is very much like looking thorough a window.


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That Rocky Mountain Express disc is one of the best UHD I have seen.
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Sound bars are strange beasts. I just turned off the speakers on on my C8 and set audio to optical. The receiver does the rest. No issues whatsoever. Yeah, the Lindy adapter works pretty good for most situations but not all.

I use the LG UBK90 as my blu-ray UHD player and you are not able to disable CEC on it. But with ARC/CEC disabled on the rest of my devices, there's no issues using the Harmony remote and no extra adapters to fiddle with. However, if you want or need ARC, that complicates matters a bit.

I have my Panasonic HTB770 soundbar connected to this TV exactly the way you have with audio to optical. I do have the ARC HDMI connection for it to change automatically when I switch sources like, OTA, Roku or Blu-ray player. It works flawlessly. I do not have Lindy.
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That Rocky Mountain Express disc is one of the best UHD I have seen.
And there's another 50 min feature on there that's equally great, about railroading in the Canadian wilderness in winter during the 60's. Not to be missed.
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Well.... I thought I could tune out the high pitch whine from my 77 c8 but I can’t.... I have set up my return not sure if it’s worth the hassle to play the lotto with the oled anymore. Since it’s going back I did the test for the flashing near black and it’s there.

Not sure what to do now, wait for ces? Go Led? Cry?


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Hi All,


Any idea why my E8 just started switching inputs whenever it wants to? Just began today, but when I start watching Prime, a few minutes into the show the TV decides to switch back to the HDMI input my Dish box is plugged into. I thought maybe I just sat on the remote the first time, but nope.


Any help would be appreciated!

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