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So someone says it might not be possible to downgrade firmware anymore. In addition, this new firmware available through engineering mode might not be downgradeable. Obviously, the logical thing to do is rush out, buy a service remote, and install that puppy! Don't wait for it to hit public release in a week or so. I mean, it's not like there have been any sort of firmware issues the last several months.
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Seems there is black crush with default brightness setting 50 with 05.10.00 firmware.
I have to set it to 53 to see box 1 and RGB text (1:1:1) from other picture.
04.10.15 (manually calibrated) I saw box no:1 and "RGB" text with default brightness 50 (20p wb luminances 5% -1, 10% -1 and 15% -2)

So my advice is not to rush...like I did
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Tell me about it dude. I was thinking earlier how sad it is that the thing I'm looking forward to most right now in life is... a firmware update for my TV.

The night I get it, Into the Spiderverse will be rewatched. This time with the digital Dolby Vision version rather than disc HDR10. Hopefully it gets put on the site quick!
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Seems there is black crush with default brightness setting 50 with 05.10.00 firmware.
As you know, the black level is panel-specific.

Your panel has black crush with default brightness setting 50 with 05.10.00 firmware. It doesn't mean everyone's panel will be the same
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So someone says it might not be possible to downgrade firmware anymore. In addition, this new firmware available through engineering mode might not be downgradeable. Obviously, the logical thing to do is rush out, buy a service remote, and install that puppy! Don't wait for it to hit public release in a week or so. I mean, it's not like there have been any sort of firmware issues the last several months.

It's not logical to have to enter the Service Menu just to upgrade .

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Boo! [Potentially, depending on the bitrate which will be much lower!] better picture, and definitely worse sound! Traitor!

But who uses TVs for their sound? If they do, they need to get at least a soundbar with a bass, please .
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As you know, the black level is panel-specific.

Your panel has black crush with default brightness setting 50 with 05.10.00 firmware. It doesn't mean everyone's panel will be the same
It was superb with 04.10.15 with default brightness setting 50.
I don´t see point speaking about panel difference at this case.
Updated only because of some comments about better dithering.

What is more common is that at some panels black is crushed by default, never saw any case where you should set brightness under 50.
(Masking problems like brighter vertical bars is totally different thing. I have pretty good unit without any significant errors)

Well, all I can do now is calibrate it tomorrow and hope to get it like it was before.

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But who uses TVs for their sound? If they do, they need to get at least a soundbar with a base, please .
Yes, I took it for granted that we all have separate AVRs and speakers capable of full lossless audio.

Hence my post

Someone using the internal sound may not care about the audio quality and be in the streamer's market, I suppose.

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It was superb with 04.10.15 with default brightness setting 50.
I don´t see point speaking with panel difference at this case.
Updated only because of some comments about better dithering.

What is more common is that at some panels black is crushed by default, never saw any case where you should set brightness under 50.
(Masking problems like brighter vertical bars is totally different thing. I have pretty good unit without any significant errors)

Well, all I can do now is calibrate it tomorrow and hope to get it like it was before.
Mine's black level has also changed with age. I'm waiting for the public firmware and for Calman RC2, I think. No rush

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Yes, I took it for granted that we all have separate AVRs and speakers capable of full lossless audio.

Hence my post

Someone using the internal sound may not care about the audio quality and be in the streamer's market, I suppose.

Corrected base to bass, but I do not understand streamers market, I would be in the screamers market. Besides there are a lot people who like SOE and other enhancements; to each his own!
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Seems there is black crush with default brightness setting 50 with 05.10.00 firmware.
I have to set it to 53 or 54 to see box 1 and RGB text (1:1:1) from other picture.
04.10.15 (manually calibrated) I saw box no:1 and "RGB" text with default brightness 50

So my advice is not to rush...like I did
I just updated as well and while the black crush is mostly diminished, when comparing with 4.10.55, there's still some black crush of the values 1-5. But this is only in SDR. HDR never had the problem. In SDR (ISF bright room) I just changed the low point RGB (white balance) to 10, 10, 10 and the boxes 1 to 5 become visible again. So it's pretty easy to correct.
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Mine's black level has also changed with age.
Mine panel is same after 10 hours of usage (first calibration) till today, speaking about panel breaking is for plasmas...well at some cases term "mura" seems to disappear after few first compensations. I had same MLL at hour 1.
Like you can see from picture UTT is now almost 2000.

Near black tracking changed beacuse of that fw update and I think it´s good thing to know for peoples who wonder update or not from 04.10.15.
It still seems that correcting macro blocking is made by crush darkest shades with default brightness and 20-point WB setting (most of users don´t touch those settings).

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So someone says it might not be possible to downgrade firmware anymore. In addition, this new firmware available through engineering mode might not be downgradeable. Obviously, the logical thing to do is rush out, buy a service remote, and install that puppy! Don't wait for it to hit public release in a week or so. I mean, it's not like there have been any sort of firmware issues the last several months.
That does not seem right.....You would think they would want to allow people to go back if they choose.....
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Boo! [Potentially, depending on the bitrate which will be much lower!] better picture, and definitely worse sound! Traitor!
Sounds the same on my C8 speakers
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Sounds the same on my C8 speakers
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It's not logical to have to enter the Service Menu just to upgrade .
I would put this in roughly the same category as people who camp out overnight to see a new movie or to get a new iPhone.
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Okay, then it will be "final release" at least for me

Seems that all color temperatures are equal with 05.10.00
Did you measure color temperature?
Is it closer to 6500K or 7200K ?

Color temperature didn't change. My panel requires the same 2 point white balance adjustments as before.

Switching between warm1 and warm2 there is a very visible difference.

Maybe you have the slow color temperature change bug...
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Color temperature didn't change. My panel requires the same 2 point white balance adjustments as before.

Switching between warm1 and warm2 there is a very visible difference.

Maybe you have the slow color temperature change bug...
Strange, seems those not work with my unit.
No matter set it to cool, medium, different warm temps...all are same.
Those worked before.

But going to measure and calibrate it tomorrow and hope to get near black tracking like it was before with .15 fw.

What is "slow color temp change bug" ?
Irony?

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I would put this in roughly the same category as people who camp out overnight to see a new movie or to get a new iPhone.
Both of which I've done...

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What is "slow color temp change bug" ?
Irony?

Nope, no irony.

There is a bug that will make color temperature changes take a long time instead of being almost instant. I don't know under what circumstances this bug appears but factory resetting the TV solved it for me. Some people even thought of it as a new feature and not a bug.

It was discussed occasionally in this thread.

To test this just switch between color temperatures like warm 1 2 3 and if it takes a long time until you see the change then you're affected by this bug.
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There is a bug that will make color temperature changes take a long time instead of being almost instant. I don't know under what circumstances this bug appears but factory resetting the TV solved it for me. Some people even thought of it as a new feature and not a bug.
Took power cord off for some time and that seemed to correct color temp problem
edit: actually not...worked only first time after switching power off.
edit2: factory reset did the trick, now it seems to work.

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Question... I have a 77c8 while doing the calculations for whatever reason i mounted the mount so that the bottom of the TV is 42" from the ground. On a fixed mount. Because I only had one stud where I needed the mount to be I put a 1x6 piece of wood across three beams and mounted the mount to that.

Question is for all that have a 77, is 42 inches off the floor too high? It would be a pain in the ass to move as I'd have to put another piece of wood up but if it's going to be terrible I'll do what I gotta do.

It's in a living room btw, seating is about 10ft back from TV.
My 77C8 is mounted such that the bottom of the panel is 39" from the floor. My feeling is that it is a few inches too high. But it is not a big deal for me. Due to room constraints I am unable to lower it any further. I am 13' back from the TV so a few feet farther than you. My mount is an articulating wall mount.

IMO and from my experience with my current setup I think your viewing at 10' would be a little more comfortable if you lowered it a bit. But if you are not OCD and can tolerate misaligned objects then you just might get used to it at 42". I would lower mine probably about 3" if I was able to. I have a couple of friends that mounted their TVs above a fireplace and those are crazy high.

IIRC I think the optimal viewing height is for your eyes to be about the midpoint of the Panel when at your viewing position. If I followed this guideline then my TV is actually mounted 8" too high. But it is fine for me where its at.
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I would put this in roughly the same category as people who camp out overnight to see a new movie or to get a new iPhone.
Yep. Never stood in line for any of our iPhones and only stood in line for hours for one movie on premier day: Star Wars

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About the black crush that people often mention when they don't see 17 (or full Range 1) on a black clipping pattern:

Do you even realize how insanely dark 0.0003 nits is? Because that's what the target for limited range 17 is when using gamma 2.4 and 120 nits peak. That's like 1/100 the brightness of a 3% slide which already is very very dark.
In the past I was also always trying to get 17 to show up on those flashing bars test pattern but all this has gotten me was often seeing elevated blacks in movies...
I wouldn't be surprised if most people have their <1% way too bright.

I think the best way to test if it's crushed or not is to look at a 0.5% (17) and 1% (18) fullscreen pattern in a pitch dark room. There should only be some faint glow.

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About the black crush that people often mention when they don't see 17 (or full Range 1) on a black clipping pattern:

Do you even realize how insanely dark 0.0003 nits is? Because that's what the target for limited range 17 is when using gamma 2.4 and 120 nits peak. That's like 1/100 the brightness of a 3% slide which already is very very dark.
In the past I was also always trying to get 17 to show up on those flashing bars test pattern but all this has gotten me was often seeing elevated blacks in movies...
I wouldn't be surprised if most people have their <1% way too bright.

I think the best way to test if it's crushed or not is to look at a 0.5% (17) and 1% (18) fullscreen pattern in a pitch dark room. There should only be some faint glow.
I have been able to easily see flashing 17 with the “crushed” firmwares. Hopefully the “fixed” firmware doesn’t take me in the wrong direction
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Yes me too if I increase brightness to 52, which I can do without inducing black glow. But that results in a too bright 17 but a still too dark low end overall. I've found it to be better to just leave brightness at 50 and only increase white balance 5% instead. Wish we had a 2.5% adjustments like the C9 does...

There are a lot of movies with fade to black scenes or even credits that are slightly above black and having a too bright 17-18 will make those look really bad when watching in a dark environment.
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It may have just the movie I watched today but this new firmware looks to be crushing black. If anyone has fixed This on new firmware could you post some 20 point setting. I went with 5% 12 10%10 15% 8 and so on for now.
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