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Hello all, not sure if this is the best place or thread to ask this question but I just purchased a 55 C8 and it’s mostly great but with fast and erratically moving objects like coins falling on a table or panning combined with objects entering from the side I see artefacts that I never noticed on my 37” plasma TV.
Formula 1 race: absolutely fantastic
TV shows (mostly static): I’m ecstatic
Movies with fast action: not so good . I tried The Incredibles 2 and wasn’t overwhelmed because of the artefacts.

Is this behaviour as designed? Or is there a setting somewhere I might try?

Thanks a bunch!
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Well unless you have been watching letter box movies non stop that screen must not be new. I have never seen a brand new tv show that kind of burn in or image retention. Maybe there is something that’s making your tv not run it’s cycle. Maybe try unplugging it and holding power button for 30 seconds. If it was me I would try resetting the tv then run some full screen content for 4-5 hours then turn off tv for 15 mins then do that again. If the letter box retention is still there I would return it. There’s no 200 hour auto cycle it’s 2000 hours. The small cycles run every 4 hours. If my tv shows image retention from a letter box movie it fully clears after a 4 hour cycle.
I think you might be right - possibly the cycles are not automatically running.

Do i hold the red power button when replugging the tv?
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My current story is similar to your own. I downsized 3 months ago from a large single family home to a small apartment once my last of 3 sons moved out of state like his brothers. My middle son lives only one state away where he just bought his first home and I gave him many of my favorite things. I tried hanging on to my cherished A/V HT setup but the receiver and speakers were just too overwhelming sound and space wise so he acquired that as well.

It even stipulates in my lease to be kind to neighbors and use headphones. My apartment is new and well soundproofed though. Nonetheless, like me it will no doubt take a lot of re-adjustment for you also to get accustomed to the downsized sound space. I fortunately bought my Oppo 205 with its superior Dacs a year before moving and with excellent headsets I still can enjoy my music. To replace the audio setup for the 77" C8 however I finally settled for a Bose Soundbar 700 system with the 700 model subwoofer and the accompanying surround speakers. I just got last week the Bose floor stands for the surrounds. The whole setup is a perfect fit for the apartment. The soundbar has its own power source so it is not reliant on the C8 for power or amperage. Same with the sub and surrounds, they all have their own amps and are wirelessly synced to the soundbar parent. The sound is superb with crisp dialogue, deep bass and sparkling treble. The bass does not rattle the glass or vibrate the floors though it could if I turned up the volume more. The surrounds are extremely transparent adding the background audio without revealing their physical presence at all. The only con I really have about the Bose system is that it does not have Dolby Atmos compatibility so the surround is limited to 5.1 audio. I also miss however the A/V receiver being the hub for all of my source components. Now unfortunately I have to connect each source component separately to each of the C8's hdmi ports. You will still use the stand for your C8 but will change the audio setting of the C8 for external speakers. The Bose Soundbar has an hdmi input but I am using the optical input from the C8 because I need all four hdmi ports for other components. The optical limits your audio choices but it's no sacrifice since Dolby Atmos is not an option any way. With the upcoming Bose soundbar model Dolby Atmos is expected to be available so I plan to get it then with a couple more surrounds for the 77" and move the Soundbar 700 to the bedroom 65" C8 with which right now I still just use the internal speakers.

That is what I have gone with since downsizing my living and audio space.


Thanks for sharing your experience and I’m glad the Bose soundbar is working well for you. I have an interest in this situation since I’m also moving from a 4 BR home with a dedicated HT to a small condo next month. Although pricey, I’ve decided to go with the Sennheiser Ambeo soundbar. It has full Dolby Atmos (and DTS:X), and is supposed to go down to 30 hz (though I doubt this, with 4” drivers), in any case, it has a sub out if the bass is not to my satisfaction. (The cost doesn’t really bother me, since the sale of my other gear will more than cover it), but I mention this as another good option for those who don’t have the space (or inclination) for a full blown HT and still want good sound from their LG display.


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I think you might be right - possibly the cycles are not automatically running.

Do i hold the red power button when replugging the tv?
Unplug the tv then on the left side on the back of the tv has a kind of button. Press that and hold it for 30 seconds or so.
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Well unless you have been watching letter box movies non stop that screen must not be new. I have never seen a brand new tv show that kind of burn in or image retention.

Don't letterbox movies have black bars top and bottom? Doesn't "burn in" leave an image only from light scenes, especially red?


So how can the light colored bands @soundizer77 shows be caused by burn in?
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Don't letterbox movies have black bars top and bottom? Doesn't "burn in" leave an image only from light scenes, especially red?


So how can the light colored bands @soundizer77 shows be caused by burn in?


It would be caused by uneven wear since the black bars have the pixels turned off. I still don’t understand how this can happen with a new tv unless its not really new or the comp cycles aren’t running .


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I think you might be right - possibly the cycles are not automatically running.



Do i hold the red power button when replugging the tv?
I would just do a full reset of the tv through the menu. See if that fixes any issues

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A darker area where the movie was displayed can also be the result of the panel still being too hot while the comp cycle was running. Similar as to how some people got dark blotches when the sun was shining on the panel while the comp cycle was running.
Because of that I usually let my C8 cool down for few minutes after watching bright content instead of turning it off immediately.
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Unplug the tv then on the left side on the back of the tv has a kind of button. Press that and hold it for 30 seconds or so.
I cannot do that as it is flat wallmounted.
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I cannot do that as it is flat wallmounted.
I don’t know if any other ways to do a hard reset so see if you can fit your and around or you may have to move the tv out.
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So how can the light colored bands @soundizer77 shows be caused by burn in?

Walking the dog, I think I figured it out. The "burn in" was the whole picture, except the top/bottom bands.
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Walking the dog, I think I figured it out. The "burn in" was the whole picture, except the top/bottom bands.
Excellent catch. So now all I have to do is burn in the top and bottom bars and then I will have screen uniformity.
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Excellent catch. So now all I have to do is burn in the top and bottom bars and then I will have screen uniformity.
If your tv is new then that won’t be burn in just image retention. My guess your tv is not running the auto cycles. If your tv does actually have burn in and it’s new you win the world record for fastest burn in time.
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Find the breaker in the fuse box that the TV is on and shut it off.

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At least you didn't disagree with my Samsung comment either
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Congratulations Ray. I ran into a deal I couldn't refuse also.


The great price i paid also eases my mind if i ever get burn in, though the Walmart warranty actually does cover burn in so i may go back and grab that, but I'm certainly not going to baby the tv except for leaving it paused for long periods. oled light will likely stay at 100 for most of the time lol So far my only real complaint is that my Bluetooth speaker is slightly delayed.
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Did anyone else notice this elliptic anomaly on the screen? I guess this could be related to the "News Channel Dimming" because it keeps fluctuating a bit as the content on the screen changes (it's something dynamic).
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it's just premium countertop Laminate by Formica brand, called Calcatta Marble (Italian Marble). Still need to do the finishing touches in there (trim, etc). The oled though REALLY pops against the white background, even with the tv turned off with the glossy black finish. It truly is the perfect cherry on top!




Thank you. I'll buy the perfect tv for the perfect price no matter the brand. (which of course doesn't exist yet either). But I truly appreciate the better motion on the Oled too. A lot of people bag on oled motion but for me the Samsung motion is way worse.





The great price i paid also eases my mind if i ever get burn in, though the Walmart warranty actually does cover burn in so i may go back and grab that, but I'm certainly not going to baby the tv except for leaving it paused for long periods. oled light will likely stay at 100 for most of the time lol So far my only real complaint is that my Bluetooth speaker is slightly delayed.

Just got my LG 77" C8 oled delivered today. Got a great price, there are a lot bargains out there now.
It's a different kind picture. Not sure if it's as sharp as the Q9FN but the colors are richer. Takes time to break in I suppose. Love the size.
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Just got my LG 77" C8 oled delivered today. Got a great price, there are a lot bargains out there now.
It's a different kind picture. Not sure if it's as sharp as the Q9FN but the colors are richer. Takes time to break in I suppose. Love the size.
I've noticed some softness too with certain things such as YouTube TV which surprises me considering Mines only a 55 and my Sammy is a 75. worth keeping in mind though that the Q9 did score the highest on upscaling at the shootout last year too I believe. it's not a big issue for me tho, just something I noticed.

speaking of which, what exactly does the super resolution setting do?

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Just got my LG 77" C8 oled delivered today. Got a great price, there are a lot bargains out there now.
It's a different kind picture. Not sure if it's as sharp as the Q9FN but the colors are richer. Takes time to break in I suppose. Love the size.
Yes the samsung might appear sharper, but you should wait and see after 100 to 200hrs when shes broken in...much better pq! Btw congrats on that 77!
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Hello all, not sure if this is the best place or thread to ask this question but I just purchased a 55 C8 and it’s mostly great but with fast and erratically moving objects like coins falling on a table or panning combined with objects entering from the side I see artefacts that I never noticed on my 37” plasma TV.
Formula 1 race: absolutely fantastic
TV shows (mostly static): I’m ecstatic
Movies with fast action: not so good . I tried The Incredibles 2 and wasn’t overwhelmed because of the artefacts.

Is this behaviour as designed? Or is there a setting somewhere I might try?

Thanks a bunch!
Try turning off TruMotion in Picture Mode Settings - Picture Options.
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I just got a 65" C8, and can confirm this ANSD (Automatic News Station Dimming) **** with firmware 4.10.55.
Wow, what a bull**** feature!!!
I came from a C7 where I can confirm that the ANSD were not present.

And why did they have to make the screen get brighter when it wakes up with "stutters/pulses". I have counted up to 20 such "chops/stutters/pulses" before the screen is 100% bright again.

I'm so annoyed... using a computer on this TV is going to make me want to throw a rock through it!!!

One strange thing though... when using Aerial screensaver (the same as on the Apple TV) on a W10 PC, the ANSD dims the panel when the Aerial Scr don't have bright pictures.
Is this because the TV detect the screensaver as a static picture, and not a moving video??

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I've noticed some softness too with certain things such as YouTube TV which surprises me considering Mines only a 55 and my Sammy is a 75. worth keeping in mind though that the Q9 did score the highest on upscaling at the shootout last year too I believe. it's not a big issue for me tho, just something I noticed.



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I just got a 65" C8, and can confirm this ANSD (Automatic News Station Dimming) **** with firmware 4.10.55.
Wow, what a bull**** feature!!!
I came from a C7 where I can confirm that the ANSD were not present.

And why did they have to make the screen get brighter when it wakes up with "stutters/pulses". I have counted up to 20 such "chops/stutters/pulses" before the screen is 100% bright again.

I'm so annoyed... using a computer on this TV is going to make me want to throw a rock through it!!!

One strange thing though... when using Aerial screensaver (the same as on the Apple TV) on a W10 PC, the ANSD dims the panel when the Aerial Scr don't have bright pictures.
Is this because the TV detect the screensaver as a static picture, and not a moving video??
No offense, but why do you need to use a computer on an oled TV? Why not just get a large monitor? Using a computer on an OLED panel is just asking for trouble in my opinion. Specifically image retention and possible burn in. I have a 27 inch IMac Pro and the screen is large enough. I use my 77 C8 Oled for watching TV as it is designed for. Again just my opinion
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I just got a 65" C8, and can confirm this ANSD (Automatic News Station Dimming) **** with firmware 4.10.55.

Wow, what a bull**** feature!!!

I came from a C7 where I can confirm that the ANSD were not present.



And why did they have to make the screen get brighter when it wakes up with "stutters/pulses". I have counted up to 20 such "chops/stutters/pulses" before the screen is 100% bright again.



I'm so annoyed... using a computer on this TV is going to make me want to throw a rock through it!!!



One strange thing though... when using Aerial screensaver (the same as on the Apple TV) on a W10 PC, the ANSD dims the panel when the Aerial Scr don't have bright pictures.

Is this because the TV detect the screensaver as a static picture, and not a moving video??


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Did anyone else notice this elliptic anomaly on the screen? I guess this could be related to the "News Channel Dimming" because it keeps fluctuating a bit as the content on the screen changes (it's something dynamic).

Game picture preset I assume? And when you switch to ISF or technicolor that centered oval shape is gone?


edit: This was somewhat discussed before, without any real conclusion though. I made a picture of it here:

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I'm sorry about that, but isn't it kinda understandable? Buying an expensive tv-set, and get these features that ruins the experience?
But again, sorry and I will take note of what you said.

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No offense, but why do you need to use a computer on an oled TV? Why not just get a large monitor? Using a computer on an OLED panel is just asking for trouble in my opinion. Specifically image retention and possible burn in. I have a 27 inch IMac Pro and the screen is large enough. I use my 77 C8 Oled for watching TV as it is designed for. Again just my opinion
I use it in my living room with a HTPC. Use it for everything from my sweet spot 3m from the screen... Surfing, working, streaming, watch videoes etc etc.

As it is designed for? There's a PC mode with Chroma 4:4:4 and 1080p 120hz features!! I will say it's very designed for PC use...

Very careful regarding burn-ins (no bookmark bar with yellow folders (Google Chrome), screensaver after 1 min etc etc.) No problems after 1,5 years with a C7.
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I'm sorry about that, but isn't it kinda understandable? Buying an expensive tv-set, and get these features that ruins the experience?

But again, sorry and I will take note of what you said.





I use it in my living room with a HTPC. Use it for everything from my sweet spot 3m from the screen... Surfing, working, streaming, watch videoes etc etc.



As it is designed for? There's a PC mode with Chroma 4:4:4 and 1080p 120hz features!! I will say it's very designed for PC use...



Very careful regarding burn-ins (no bookmark bar with yellow folders (Google Chrome), screensaver after 1 min etc etc.) No problems after 1,5 years with a C7.


You are just asking for trouble with that use case in my opinion , but it’s your hard earned money . As far as the dimming that existed long before .55 was introduced , I personally have never seen it .


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There are OLED laptops out there in use. Wonder how they handle burn in. I’ve used my previous E6 for living room PC gaming and had no issues.

What I don’t get is the people that will put a 55 inch OLED on their desk and sit like three feet away from it. Lol. That is nutty.
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I've noticed some softness too with certain things such as YouTube TV which surprises me considering Mines only a 55 and my Sammy is a 75. worth keeping in mind though that the Q9 did score the highest on upscaling at the shootout last year too I believe. it's not a big issue for me tho, just something I noticed.

speaking of which, what exactly does the super resolution setting do?

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I can't find a setting for 'super resolution'. Maybe someone can address that. Is that an under the hood setting?
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