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Press In-Start and 0413 to enter the SM. Be aware that doing so may void any Warranty and any mistakes you make could brick your TV.


When you enter the SM there are 3 columns with the top of the 2nd being the starting position. Scroll down to System 2 then scroll right over to the 3rd column and scroll down to NSU where to the right of that it will say User Mode. Scroll right to Engineering Mode. Then push In-Start twice to exit the SM. With your User settings General - About this TV - set Auto Updates to ON and it will tell you it found 05.10.00 firmware. You have to update to it first then restart your TV. Back to About this TV and let it then find the 05.20.00 firmware to update to it and restart your TV again. Go back into the SM to System 2 over to NSU and change back to User Mode, and again click In-Start twice to get out of SM.

Don't browse around in there just do it and leave it. But go slow and be careful. It is very easy to scroll to the wrong options and change something inadvertently according to others who made mistakes in the SM.

Change your auto update setting back to OFF if you want to.


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Thank you so much for the detailed instructions! It worked!
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Question regarding netflix. I have read that netflix supports HDR but have noticed that when a program is not in DV it only shows as ULTRA HD 4K. When I watch that program it will not default to the HDR preset such as when I use youtube or watch on a disc. Is there a setting that I am missing? I am using the netflix app through the tv and have also tried using the my UBK90.
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Question regarding netflix. I have read that netflix supports HDR but have noticed that when a program is not in DV it only shows as ULTRA HD 4K. When I watch that program it will not default to the HDR preset such as when I use youtube or watch on a disc. Is there a setting that I am missing? I am using the netflix app through the tv and have also tried using the my UBK90.
I haven’t seen any HDR10 content on Netflix in a long time. It’s mostly Dolby Vision or simply plain 4K with no HDR of any type.
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Question regarding netflix. I have read that netflix supports HDR but have noticed that when a program is not in DV it only shows as ULTRA HD 4K. When I watch that program it will not default to the HDR preset such as when I use youtube or watch on a disc. Is there a setting that I am missing? I am using the netflix app through the tv and have also tried using the my UBK90.
I don't think Netflix has any HDR10 content, only DV.
You can have 4k resolution with no HDR.
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I don't think Netflix has any HDR10 content, only DV.
You can have 4k resolution with no HDR.
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I haven’t seen any HDR10 content on Netflix in a long time. It’s mostly Dolby Vision or simply plain 4K with no HDR of any type.
That what I thought. Thanks for confirming.
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You might indeed, if it was beta.......however that has nothing to do with banding.
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I see that the Sony OLED won the Flat Panel Shootout this year, making it TWO YEARS IN A ROW. It actually won in every category except they tied with the LG OLED in the "Streaming" category. I know they use the LG Panel (as we have noted quite often in the last discussion about issues we have been having) but they must be doing something right. I guess I'm not surprised it won in the SDR category, for having had the Flagship Sony LCD/LED from 2016, their "processor" is somewhat better that LG's. But I was surprised that they also won in the HDR category.

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I see that the Sony OLED won the Flat Panel Shootout this year, making it TWO YEARS IN A ROW. It actually won in every category except they tied with the LG OLED in the "Streaming" category. I know they use the LG Panel (as we have noted quite often in the last discussion about issues we have been having) but they must be doing something right. I guess I'm not surprised it won in the SDR category, for having had the Flagship Sony LCD/LED from 2016, their "processor" is somewhat better that LG's. But I was surprised that they also won in the HDR category.


The scores were very close , having owned a 2018 model from each manufacturer I can tell you each has their pluses and minuses . Lot of hyperbole in that shoot out thread . Anyone trying to tell you the gulf is vast is being disingenuous imo .No need to hang your head in shame . .



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Thank you so much for the detailed instructions! It worked!



You're very welcome. What was your reason for wanting the beta fw and do you find the risk worth going into the SM?

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Amazon has the 4k UHD Dynasties on sale right now. I just ordered it and plan to re-watch Planet Earth as well now that I've gotten my C8s professionally calibrated.
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The scores were very close , having owned a 2018 model from each manufacturer I can tell you each has their pluses and minuses . Lot of hyperbole in that shoot out thread . Anyone trying to tell you the gulf is vast is being disingenuous imo .No need to hang you head in shame . .



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Agreed!

Yes, I saw the stats and the differences between the Sony and LG OLEDs were minimal in most cases. I also read the whole thread on the shoot out and one of the "Sony Fanboys" was most annoying, basically saying the Sony was the only "adult" in the room and the other displays were "adolescents." That is quite the "adolescent statement" if you ask me.
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You're very welcome. What was your reason for wanting the beta fw and do you find the risk worth going into the SM?
The default gamma was crushing the blacks at the low end. It's good now and for me it was worth the risk. Thanks again!

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Amazon has the 4k UHD Dynasties on sale right now. I just ordered it and plan to re-watch Planet Earth as well now that I've gotten my C8s professionally calibrated.
Planet Earth 2 on UHD looks absolutely STUNNING on our C8 OLEDs! I can't speak to Dynasties though, but when I watched it on the BBC channel it wasn't nearly as interesting as PE2 so I decided against purchasing the set (each episode was very slow-paced and the cinematography couldn't match PE2).
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I don't think Netflix has any HDR10 content, only DV.
You can have 4k resolution with no HDR.
I have ran across only 1 movie that was hdr10, every else has been DV or just 4K. Don’t remember the name of the movie.
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Planet Earth 2 on UHD looks absolutely STUNNING on our C8 OLEDs! I can't speak to Dynasties though, but when I watched it on the BBC channel it wasn't nearly as interesting as PE2 so I decided against purchasing the set (each episode was very slow-paced and the cinematography couldn't match PE2).

You are right, PE2 on UHD is what I meant to say. And I understand the first two episodes of Dynasties is less than enthralling, but the video quality throughout is the same as the PE2.

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The default gamma was crushing the blacks at the low end. It's good now and for me it was worth the risk. Thanks again!

I am very surprised the new release fw is still not out. I truly expected it to be released the day after my calibrations since that is how things have been for me lately.
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I am very surprised the new release fw is still not out. I truly expected it to be released the day after my calibrations since that is how things have been for me lately.
I smiled from ear to ear when I read this post for that's USUALLY how it pans out for me. Again, I'm trying to be patient regarding this FW Update; in fact, I decided not to mention it again and then your post came in.
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I haven’t seen any HDR10 content on Netflix in a long time. It’s mostly Dolby Vision or simply plain 4K with no HDR of any type.
Isn't Dolby Vision considered HDR? HDR10 is a type of HDR and Dolby Vision is HDR with dynamic metadata?
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Isn't Dolby Vision considered HDR? HDR10 is a type of HDR and Dolby Vision is HDR with dynamic metadata?
Hdr & Dolby vision are considered different even though they do the same type of thing.

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Isn't Dolby Vision considered HDR? HDR10 is a type of HDR and Dolby Vision is HDR with dynamic metadata?
Basically, you are RIGHT. Here is a good link that brings that out:

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I am very surprised the new release fw is still not out. I truly expected it to be released the day after my calibrations since that is how things have been for me lately.
Thanks for posting the instructions on how to make the changes in the service menu! The new fw release is taking far too long, and since someone confirmed your step by step instructions I figured it would be an easy change as long as I am careful. What a difference! I played my John Wick 4k dvd before and after the upgrade the level of detail in the dark scenes at the beginning of the movie is significantly noticeable. Hopefully LG posts their public fw update soon! Hopefully they are bundling it with other fixes that don't hurt anything on the tv.
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Thanks for posting the instructions on how to make the changes in the service menu! The new fw release is taking far too long, and since someone confirmed your step by step instructions I figured it would be an easy change as long as I am careful. What a difference! I played my John Wick 4k dvd before and after the upgrade the level of detail in the dark scenes at the beginning of the movie is significantly noticeable. Hopefully LG posts their public fw update soon! Hopefully they are bundling it with other fixes that don't hurt anything on the tv.
Man I need to stop reading this thread. The wait for this firmware is a struggle.

Does it void your warranty to upgrade to beta fw?
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Man I need to stop reading this thread. The wait for this firmware is a struggle.



Does it void your warranty to upgrade to beta fw?
It could possibly, plus if there are bugs in the firmware and the official firmware release is lower than the beta, you will be stuck with the beta until a higher release comes out

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It would be nice if they could do some basic calibration after replacing panel, at least to state which meets factory quality tolerance...which I think is pretty good at nowdays, like technicolor (warm1) where they even count in metamerism correction.


btw, that factory default gamma seems much better when zoom out scale of graph
Picture shows how warm1 looks with D65 white point and when set to technicolor custom wp.
I just read Rtings review of the Sony A9G. What was interesting to me is what the default white balance reading is in the most accurate preset. It looks like this set needs a professional calibration to get under the threshold of delta error of 3. I checked Rtings and also Make73’s evaluation of white points and listed below the default picture mode delta error values.

Sony A9G: Custom 1= 4.25 per Rtings
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For those who have had any of these sets calibrated the defaults don’t mean anything. For those who are looking for accuracy out of the box this is close to what you are getting. I know white balance is just one part of the overall picture quality equation.

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Isn't Dolby Vision considered HDR? HDR10 is a type of HDR and Dolby Vision is HDR with dynamic metadata?
I use an Panasonic UB9000/9004 watching Netflix. I disabled DV. This means only static HDR remains. This is also shown in the top right corner of the tv.
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Man I need to stop reading this thread. The wait for this firmware is a struggle.

Does it void your warranty to upgrade to beta fw?
Long story short, don't do it.
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Well duh!. Just wasn't sure if it registered 1 hour or so in case it was powered on one last time to make sure it was ok before packaging it up and shipping out. I never bothered to check mine when first opened because I didn't see a need to. Sort of like when a brand new car which has a couple of miles on it.
You say duh but yet you gave out wrong info
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^^^^ I said maybe have 1 or 2 hours on it. “Maybe” being the operative word. I wouldn’t be concerned if my new tv had 1, maybe 2 hours on it. Preferably O, but not 8500.

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I'm finally getting my 55C8 calibrated today. I'm pretty excited...
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What firmware are you on? You may want to hold off because there is going to be a future update that will change gamma and your calibration will need to be changed.
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