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@chunon I know right! The other half thinks im crazy...but I like it😁
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@chunon I know right! The other half thinks im crazy...but I like it


You are definitely crazy but we don’t have the time to discuss that fully here lol


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@chunon I know right! The other half thinks im crazy...but I like it😁
Same with "my other half"...she would think I'm really, really crazy if I moved in another 2'!!
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^my cave is just a room that I use, smallest in my house. Im not allowed to wall mount it, so if I push tv stand flush to wall it will be 7 total feet...but 6 is better😊
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^my cave is just a room that I use, smallest in my house. Im not allowed to wall mount it, so if I push tv stand flush to wall it will be 7 total feet...but 6 is better😊
I'm gonna stop by sometime and check out the 77s
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^my cave is just a room that I use, smallest in my house. Im not allowed to wall mount it, so if I push tv stand flush to wall it will be 7 total feet...but 6 is better😊
My "Man Cave" is quite large....14' x 27'. My back surrounds sit back from the front wall about 15-16', so I have a lot of space BEHIND my actual Home Theater. At one time I was considering a projector and a screen 12' wide, but I'm hooked on Flat Panel displays because of the better CONTRAST and BLACK LEVELS. Hopefully I've have a 100" OLED some day...or perhaps a MicroLED.
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Anyone use the Amazon fire stick tv 4k?
Just opened it and setting it up. Wondering what are the optimal settings for the display tavb?
Color depth: either 10 bit or 12 bit? Probably doesn't matter since it says "up to" so I assume leaving it on 12 would be okay.
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For anyone interested, I went through all my files and for all the LG C8 firmware files that I had, I put them together in one folder on my google drive account. The files in the folder are:

04.10.15 (Full Release)
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05.10.03 (Korean Release ** Good For US TV C8 Models)

All files are already unzipped and just need to be put in a folder named LG_DTV and then that folder put on a flash drive.

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QQ: Is it necessary to do a full reset afterward? I assume not but want to be sure

I didn't find it necessary to do so. It kept on my settings.

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Anybody have issues with distracting screen reflections on the C8s?

I've been toying with getting a 77", but I've never used a flat screen as my main movie watching screen before. I'm used to watching content in a pitch black room (well, not *quite* pitch black in the daytime), which I assume will help. Been using front projectors since 2007.

My room isn't exactly ideal for a projector, as I do have light colored walls. Just a bit concerned about ambient light reflecting back on the glossy screen.

Side note: going from 105" to 77" may take some adjustment. I figure the HDR and contrast quality will make up for it. Hoping for larger OLEDs in a few years in similar price ranges to today's 77" sets.
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^^^^ the viewing environment is something you certainly need to consider when going with a large panel. Some rooms just are not good for large panels so there may be some compromises one needs to make (reflection or no reflection). We have two windows in our theater room. The 65 C8 sits in the middle with one window behind it and about 15' away and the other window is situated to the left of the C8, about 10' away and at a right angle. Even with both window shades up, there is no reflection on the panel. At night, we use a bias light behind the panel as our only light in the room which works extremely well.

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^^^^ the viewing environment is something you certainly need to consider when going with a large panel. Some rooms just are not good for large panels so there may be some compromises one needs to make (reflection or no reflection). We have two windows in our theater room. The 65 C8 sits in the middle with one window behind it and about 15' away and the other window is situated to the left of the C8, about 10' away and at a right angle. Even with both window shades up, there is no reflection on the panel. At night, we use a bias light behind the panel as our only light in the room which works extremely well.
Hmm, interesting. No windows to worry about for me, as I have blackout shades over my patio door and front window.

Ah, I had a bias light way back when rear-projection sets were a thing. Interesting idea, though I'd prefer just BLACK during dark scenes.

I suppose I could find a flat, glossy surface of some sort in that area while the projector is doing its thing just to get a feel for it.

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You read it wrong, for dreaux specifically said that he "created a file on his COMPUTER named LG_DTV." He should have created a file on his THUMBDRIVE named LG_DTV.
For future reference there should be no need to create a new folder. In Windows right click the FW zip folder and select “Extract All...” Open the extracted folder just created and the lg_dtv folder containing the FW update is right there. Drag or copy it to a thumb drive. That should be it. The most that may need to be done is rename the folder using caps “LG_DTV”

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For future reference there should be no need to create a new folder. In Windows right click the FW zip folder and select “Extract All...” Open the extracted folder just created and the lg_dtv folder containing the FW update is right there. Drag or copy it to a thumb drive. That should be it. The most that may need to be done is rename the folder using caps “LG_DTV”
These are not zipped files. I had unzipped them already and just made links to the actual file. They have to make a folder.

Even if it was a zip file, since the folder has to be caps, it would just be easier to make a folder with the caps while the zip is downloading and extract right to the folder that was made. No need to rename or make caps.

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It has been the best yet for me. I think there was more to it than just GA update. Like I said before I could of had a Bad install.
I will try and be a little more clear earlier was from my phone.
There are too many people seeing improvements in this version for GA to be all there is,. I wish I would of taken more readings on .15, .31,.55, and .02 . That way I would of had some proof to go on, but I didn't and the chance is gone.
I think it is actually better than just a operating system update would bring.
I also think .03 had more. My screen definitely seems brighter with the same settings I've been using. I was getting blinded in HDR at OLED 80 after the update. I know some recommend leaving OLED at 100 for HDR but they must have eyeballs of steel to handle that.
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I also think .03 had more. My screen definitely seems brighter with the same settings I've been using. I was getting blinded in HDR at OLED 80 after the update. I know some recommend leaving OLED at 100 for HDR but they must have eyeballs of steel to handle that.


HDR is too bright in cinema or technicolor mode with dynamic tone mapping off?

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Anybody have issues with distracting screen reflections on the C8s?



I've been toying with getting a 77", but I've never used a flat screen as my main movie watching screen before. I'm used to watching content in a pitch black room (well, not *quite* pitch black in the daytime), which I assume will help. Been using front projectors since 2007.



My room isn't exactly ideal for a projector, as I do have light colored walls. Just a bit concerned about ambient light reflecting back on the glossy screen.



Side note: going from 105" to 77" may take some adjustment. I figure the HDR and contrast quality will make up for it. Hoping for larger OLEDs in a few years in similar price ranges to today's 77" sets.
Just focus what you are watching and you won't notice the reflection. If you shift your focus on the reflection, it will be distracting.

I have some reflection but don't notice it when my focus is on what I am watching

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Anybody have issues with distracting screen reflections on the C8s?



I've been toying with getting a 77", but I've never used a flat screen as my main movie watching screen before. I'm used to watching content in a pitch black room (well, not *quite* pitch black in the daytime), which I assume will help. Been using front projectors since 2007.



My room isn't exactly ideal for a projector, as I do have light colored walls. Just a bit concerned about ambient light reflecting back on the glossy screen.



Side note: going from 105" to 77" may take some adjustment. I figure the HDR and contrast quality will make up for it. Hoping for larger OLEDs in a few years in similar price ranges to today's 77" sets.
I had an extremely open room for my living room with all kinds of light sources including big windows. I didn't have a problem with reflections though I did end up getting the blackout curtains which helped the picture tremendously.

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Finally upgraded from 55ec9300 to the 55c8

I want to still keep the 9300 though because it has 3d and I am one of those dying breed of enthusiasts who still loves to watch 3d movies the old fashioned way.

Should I move the new tv to the bed room, so I can keep the 3d tv in the living room?
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These are not zipped files. I had unzipped them already and just made links to the actual file. They have to make a folder.

Even if it was a zip file, since the folder has to be caps, it would just be easier to make a folder with the caps while the zip is downloading and extract right to the folder that was made. No need to rename or make caps.
Ok, I didn’t realize until now you uploaded the current FW updates as files rather than zip folders. My bad for not checking that out first. My instructions were referring to your previous link which you kindly posted and I used to download the FW zip file, and will also apply to the Korean download site which I also thank you for posting for all of us.
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I made the same mistake as dreaux did and then Glenee helped me (in a PM that he sent me) with the same info listed in his post. I had named the file ON MY COMPUTER "LG_DTV," but I had not made a folder ON MY THUMBDRIVE with the name LG_DTV. Your display will only recognize the file if the Thumbdrive has a folder with that name. Once it does, it "works like a charm."
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By what I'm reading he did do that. So I'm thinking maybe the file itself was renamed, it wasn't unzipped correctly for whatever reason, or the thumb drive needs to be formatted differently. I hope he figures it out!
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I also think .03 had more. My screen definitely seems brighter with the same settings I've been using. I was getting blinded in HDR at OLED 80 after the update. I know some recommend leaving OLED at 100 for HDR but they must have eyeballs of steel to handle that.
The content of HDR is still mastered so that most of it is at ~100 nits.

If normal contents in HDR is blinding you, there's something wrong.

If you adjust either "Contrast" or "OLED Light" away from their maximum values (default for HDR modes), then the TV's tone-mapping algorithm will definitely not work correctly, you'll lose shadow detail and highlight detail, etc.
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^^ Contrast really adjusts the brightness, unfortunately people think other!
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Put the c8 in the darker room. Oleds really pop when allowed to show off their blacks. I wouldn't call it a weakness, but their brightness doesn't go quite as high as LEDs unless you up the oled light and by upping the oled light you may introduce burn in sooner than you'd like with static images. Also, when the oled is setup properly the colors are the closest thing to natural since my old trusted plasma

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05.10.03 (Korean Release ** Good For US TV C8 Models)
Hey, I have 2 questions, sorry if they have been answered before.

1. Is this firmware also compatible with EU models?
2. Can I go back to 04.10.55 if wanted? How do I do this?

Sorry if this has been answered before, I tried to search but could not find an answer.

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Hey, I have 2 questions, sorry if they have been answered before.

1. Is this firmware also compatible with EU models?
2. Can I go back to 04.10.55 if wanted? How do I do this?

Sorry if this has been answered before, I tried to search but could not find an answer.

Many thanks!
+ Another question i forgot sorry, the LG_DTV method is not showing an update has been found automaticaly, neither when I manually check in the menu. However using the SURE android app -> software update shows me that the file is detected. Is it safe to continue?
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Hey, I have 2 questions, sorry if they have been answered before.

1. Is this firmware also compatible with EU models?
2. Can I go back to 04.10.55 if wanted? How do I do this?

Sorry if this has been answered before, I tried to search but could not find an answer.

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1. No - but there is an EU version you can use
2. No - for the time being the ability to roll back was "taken away" by LG with the 05.xx.xx updates


#2 has left some to not update due to the inability to rollback. Based on everything that's been shared about 05.xx.xx you wouldn't want to go back once do update. I'll be doing the update via USB when I get home tonight assuming I leave work at a decent time. If I got something wrong it will be corrected shortly.
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