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Snagged one of these on closeout at BB today. Amazing picture. I went in for a Sony X900F and came home with this.



After reading a little more on this set, now I am worried about the possibility of burn in.



I watch sports essentially 24/7. Once college football comes around, I could watch a few games in a row and run the risk of burning in the ABC, SEC, or ESPN logo.



Am I overanalyzing this or is this a realistic concern that I should think about before my 14 day return window is up?
With that kind of use you could run into burn-in.

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lg b8 issue

So I had a lg b8 for over a week now this TV is amazing picture quality but the last 2 days the right half of the screen looks like its bleeding white even in the black bars of movies is it just a bad panel?
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If you havent done so already, run the pixel refresher and see if that clears it up. I have seen this before on new tvs and that worked.
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This is probably a stupid question, I have had my LG OLED 65B for a couple of months and I just noticed there is a film on the back side of the tv should I remove it?
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Why so dim?

Hello, I recently got an incredible deal for an LG B8 and I now own a B7 and a B8.
The B8 is incredibly dim in SDR, a lot more than the B7. During the day I use Expert bright at gamma 2.2 with Oled light to 100 and it's still insanely dark. My B7 used to be in the same room set on Technicolor (bt1886, 80 OL) and I never had any issue watching anything during daytime. Anybody else having issues with SDR brightness?
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This is probably a stupid question, I have had my LG OLED 65B for a couple of months and I just noticed there is a film on the back side of the tv should I remove it?
Yes, remove it right away. I did the same thing on my 55B8 - didn't notice the film on the back for a couple of months. Then I read on another forum it can cause overheating issues. Why LG makes no mention of it in any of their instructions is beyond me.

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Hello, I recently got an incredible deal for an LG B8 and I now own a B7 and a B8.
The B8 is incredibly dim in SDR, a lot more than the B7. During the day I use Expert bright at gamma 2.2 with Oled light to 100 and it's still insanely dark. My B7 used to be in the same room set on Technicolor (bt1886, 80 OL) and I never had any issue watching anything during daytime. Anybody else having issues with SDR brightness?
Are you sure that eco mode is off? I use IFS dark at 33, and IFS bright at 39 oled light.

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Are you sure that eco mode is off? I use IFS dark at 33, and IFS bright at 39 oled light.


Eco mode is off, it’s strange, I’ve never had to use 100 on the B7 which is now in the bedroom at 20...


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Looking at rtings peak brightness measurements, the B8 is indeed dimmer than the B7 by about 100 nits.


~300 nits should still be more than enough for SDR though.
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Yes, remove it right away. I did the same thing on my 55B8 - didn't notice the film on the back for a couple of months. Then I read on another forum it can cause overheating issues. Why LG makes no mention of it in any of their instructions is beyond me.
Thanks will remove.
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This is probably a stupid question, I have had my LG OLED 65B for a couple of months and I just noticed there is a film on the back side of the tv should I remove it?
I went and looked and mine has it too. I'm not sure what it is for other than as a scratch preventative.. It may have been there on construction for that. It it was on the front glass that would be different but mine has a big piece of cardboard for that, It dosen't cover any vents either so I think it is just to keep the shine of the metal back and to make cleaning easier. I'd ask a professional on whether to just leave it be or work on peeling it off.
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I went and looked and mine has it too. I'm not sure what it is for other than as a scratch preventative.. It may have been there on construction for that. It it was on the front glass that would be different but mine has a big piece of cardboard for that, It dosen't cover any vents either so I think it is just to keep the shine of the metal back and to make cleaning easier. I'd ask a professional on whether to just leave it be or work on peeling it off.
I already removed mine, I didn't notice anything in the unpacking instructions about it unless I missed it.
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Hi Guys.

I am new to the OLED world. Just picked up at 65" OLED B8. I am coming from a Samsung Plasma 51" for the past 6 years.

The 4K content is pretty incredible. Even my Apple TV HBO looks good, which isn't 4K.

I do have some questions though, as I know they have been asked 1000x times before and I apologize for that.

1. How do I get rid of the LG guide for my tv channels, and just use the normal Fios guide come up when I push guide? Anyway to do that?

2. I have a sun soaked room, but even with its not sunny, the recommended settings of ratingsdotcom are just to dull and dark for me. Even darker than my old plasma, which I feel had the best picture I have ever seen.

Currently I am using ISF expert bright room. I have kept the OLED light at 80, but besides that the only things I have changed are the energy saving OFF, Gamma at 2.2, and Tru Motion at User Judder 2, blur 10. Now I know its probably the source, as Fios looks pretty damn bad. Streaming shows looks much better, but I need a setting for basic everyday use that I am happy with.

When I use my Apple TV 4K, it goes into dolby Vision cinema home. This setting actually looks much better and brighter ( OLED is only on 50 ) and everything looks pretty great that I watch and steam. Wonder how I can make it look like this on my fios ( whites are SLIGHTLY yellow though ) Currently watching game of thrones and the default settings look good. ( Exe I put the tru motion settings same as above though, and the blacks during game of thrones are not that great)

I like the look of APS mode cause it makes things pop, but it over saturates.

So if ISF is the best mode to use, what can I do to make it look brighter? Ala make it just pop a little more. It looks blah. I am sure as time goes on I would get use to it, but this picture ( When watching fios ) is not better than my old plasma.I assume its not the OLED light that is doing it, considering the Apple TV content is only at an OLED light of 50.

Any help is considered and thanks
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2. That's 2 modes you talk about: Apple4k uses HDR Dolby Vison, the other is SDR:
- in DV mode: just switch between CinemaHome (day) and Cinema (night) modes
- in SDR: during a sunny day set gamma to 1.9, and enable dynamic contrast if that's not enough by itself

I use oled light 39, 2.2 gamma during the day, and oled light 33, gamma 2.4 during the evening with SDR content (dynamic contrast is off).

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Welcome to the forum. I would go to rtings.com and check their recommended settings for your display see if that helps if you have not already done that.
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2. That's 2 modes you talk about: Apple4k uses HDR Dolby Vison, the other is SDR:
- in DV mode: just switch between CinemaHome (day) and Cinema (night) modes
- in SDR: during a sunny day set gamma to 1.9, and enable dynamic contrast if that's not enough by itself

I use oled light 39, 2.2 gamma during the day, and oled light 33, gamma 2.4 during the evening with SDR content (dynamic contrast is off).
Well I guess my question is this.

I actually really like the DV settings because they seem more brighter and pop more ( Obviously I won't get this with the fios tv connection ) but it only has an OLED of 50 ( which is good )

Why does the isf bright mode with an OLED of 80 look so much more dull? What other settings would I need to play with to give it a little more color and life to the picture?

From a strictly brightness and more fuller appearance, I assume its more than just the OLED setting?
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Welcome to the forum. I would go to rtings.com and check their recommended settings for your display see if that helps if you have not already done that.
I've tried them but they really only work for me if I am watching a nice streaming movie with the lights off. I kinda need something more for everything TV viewing with more light in the room.. The Rtings are a little to dark.
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Finally got my B8 wall mounted!! I have the usual questions about settings. I hear gamma values suggested but on mine with the *65 firmware I have values of color temperature 1-100 not sure what to use.
Also first off I had the cut out problem when on HDMI ! I tried everything but finally fixed it by going off the ARC HDMI on the back of the set and using another HDMI from the side. Not sure why that worked but it seems LG has problems with ARC compatibility with non similar ARC devices. Another thing I was very happy to find is that you can use both the TV speakers and your sound bar together. I was hoping to be able to use the volume and mute then and change both but only the optical seems to change. Has someone been able to control both?? I'm using a SONOS system so I don't need the TV speakers but I thought it would be a nice option to have them to help fill in the sound. Thanks for your help.
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Hi. I recently purchased the B8 and have calibrated using the settings provided by rtings. But in HDR mode I cannot calibrate the 20 point white balance because they are not IRE like in the rtings settings for SDR, they are code values. Does anyone have a calibration guide for these code values?
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Is there anyway I can make the cable programs look like the Dolby Vision Cinema Home mode? ( in turns of brightness and pop) Whats the equivalent of settings for that?
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Is there anyway I can make the cable programs look like the Dolby Vision Cinema Home mode? ( in turns of brightness and pop) Whats the equivalent of settings for that?
If the above suggestions didn't help then check out the black level settings and play with it. Is eco mode off? (auto dimming based on environment)
What firmware version are you on?

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Is there anyway I can make the cable programs look like the Dolby Vision Cinema Home mode? ( in turns of brightness and pop) Whats the equivalent of settings for that?
Since the original content lacks the depth required for HDR it will never look like DV and it will look terrible. The Fire TV 4K out of the box forces DV for 1080P content and was terrible to look at until I changed setting to "match content".
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If the above suggestions didn't help then check out the black level settings and play with it. Is eco mode off? (auto dimming based on environment)
What firmware version are you on?
I believe I have the latest firmware, as I updated a few times when I received the TV.

I actually am getting somewhat use to the xpert dark and bright settings. I messed around with them, put the contrast to 100. Oled light is at 65 all the time now. Certain daylight hours I need higher, but I am sure ill get the right settings in due time

I think the TV is starting to get settled in lol.

I will tell you what I am not use to. The fact that whenever someone moves or the camera pans with them, the picture like flutters or stutters or skips. I don't know the right term to use. I can literally see it doing it. Anyway to stop this?

Only thing I really changed was Noise reduction low, Mpeg reduction low, tru motion de judder 2, de blur 10

EDIT: I think my eyes are adjusting now to the TV. I have lowered the OLED to 55 because it was bright with no lights on. I'll see tomorrow if 55 is good enough to keep for daytime. I'm hoping to find a setting I never have to change. I am now using expert bright room, but lowered the OLED to 55. It gives me better colors than the dark room setting, without feeling like its even that much brighter. Basically dark mode felt like I was looking at a lot of pale people, and the bright gives them some color. Which is more accurate? Who knows, but I prefer having some color

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Latest firmware *.65 has near black crush, maybe that's why it looks dark. You either have to wait for a fix or rollback to *.25.

Which content do you have stutter/skips?

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So I just noticed my input icons in the web os drawer are now white instead of grey. Anyone else see this? My HDMI 1 which is my Xbox and 3 which is roku are both white. My HDMI 2 I use for ARC only is still grey. 5 minutes ago all of them were grey so not sure what's up.

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It looks like 05.20.00 is out for B8 users too, available with engineering mode.

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Hey all, fairly new to OLED - picked up a B8 a few weeks ago, and completely (as im reading now, probably unfortunately) updated its firmware to latest & greatest. When watching movies in letterbox, im getting a "static effect" with brightness at 50. At 49, it completely disappears. Picture I've included exaggerates the effect due to the higher ISO - Its more a grey than anything else...

Few other notes - I only notice it when the overall screen is rather dark. A bright scene and this goes away completely. And I only notice it on the left 1/4 of the screen. As for settings, this happens on both Expert Dark (OLED light 55, with the rest of the settings pretty much mirroring Rtings, gamma 1.9) as well as isf technicolor (again matching rtings).

So I ask... is this within the realm of panel variance (brightness at 49 opposed to 50) or is this symptom of a bad panel? Any research I've attempted about OLED and letterbox are only complaints about burn in.

Brightness 50: http://imgur.com/59ihMWO
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Hey all, fairly new to OLED - picked up a B8 a few weeks ago, and completely (as im reading now, probably unfortunately) updated its firmware to latest & greatest. When watching movies in letterbox, im getting a "static effect" with brightness at 50. At 49, it completely disappears. Picture I've included exaggerates the effect due to the higher ISO - Its more a grey than anything else...

Few other notes - I only notice it when the overall screen is rather dark. A bright scene and this goes away completely. And I only notice it on the left 1/4 of the screen. As for settings, this happens on both Expert Dark (OLED light 55, with the rest of the settings pretty much mirroring Rtings, gamma 1.9) as well as isf technicolor (again matching rtings).

So I ask... is this within the realm of panel variance (brightness at 49 opposed to 50) or is this symptom of a bad panel? Any research I've attempted about OLED and letterbox are only complaints about burn in.

Brightness 50: http://imgur.com/59ihMWO
Brightness 49: http://imgur.com/DyLMxij

This kind of variation is normal. Set it to the level you're comfortable with and run a black clipping test (AVS HD 709 file or simply youtube) to eliminate black crush. I've have to set mine to 54 (OLED 40, Gamma 2.2), otherwise bar number 17 of the test isn't flashing.

Note that the latest firmare .65 is bugged and the screen is a little bit darker as usual. See the last posts/pages and the possibility to downgrade the firmware or install the new beta firmware with engineering mode. And keep in mind to check your brightness/gamma settings in the future when a new firmware is released, you might have to adjust them again.

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This kind of variation is normal. Set it to the level you're comfortable with and run a black clipping test (AVS HD 709 file or simply youtube) to eliminate black crush. I've have to set mine to 54 (OLED 40, Gamma 2.2), otherwise bar number 17 of the test isn't flashing.

Note that the latest firmare .65 is bugged and the screen is a little bit darker as usual. See the last posts/pages and the possibility to downgrade the firmware or install the new beta firmware with engineering mode. And keep in mind to check your brightness/gamma settings in the future when a new firmware is released, you might have to adjust them again.
Hey, thanks. Unfortunately it looks like the only links I've found in this thread are for the UK firmware and not US. I'm fine dealing with the current firmware and changing a few settings. I'll check out the clipping test and see what I can note from that.
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