2018 Sony A9F Master Series OLED Owner's Thread - Page 36 - AVS Forum | Home Theater Discussions And Reviews
Forum Jump: 
 2395Likes
Reply
 
Thread Tools
post #1051 of 3133 Old 10-15-2018, 07:17 AM - Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
khollister's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 399
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 79 Post(s)
Liked: 100
Quote:
Originally Posted by Riversfan View Post
I picked up my 65” a9f last night got as far as hanging it up and viewing a few minutes of content. I did notice a slight warp or twist in the panel. The left side is perfectly striaight, where the right side leans back. I’m not sure that this is due to the mount or if that would have any impact whatsoever with it essential mounting to the kickstand. Anyone else experience this or have any suggestions?
Mine is ever so slightly concave across the width - I only noticed it when I happened to sight down the top edge. It doesn’t seem to have any visible effect.

Emotiva XMC-1 (w 4K board) & XPA-5, B&W CM9s2, CM8s2, CMC, Hsu VTF-15, Auralic Aries, Apple TV 4K, Sony 65A9F & Panasonic UB820
khollister is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #1052 of 3133 Old 10-15-2018, 07:28 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: New York
Posts: 5,514
Mentioned: 194 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4543 Post(s)
Liked: 5536
^^^
Perfectly normal

John
Sony 55A1E, A9F / LG 55OLEDC8
Marantz 7012, Ohm Walsh Speakers
Klein K10-A, Jeti 1501, Murideo Six-G Gen2
Calman Ultimate, ISF Level III Certified
jrref is online now  
post #1053 of 3133 Old 10-15-2018, 07:29 AM
Member
 
Riversfan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 27
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Riversfan View Post
I picked up my 65” a9f last night got as far as hanging it up and viewing a few minutes of content. I did notice a slight warp or twist in the panel. The left side is perfectly striaight, where the right side leans back. I’m not sure that this is due to the mount or if that would have any impact whatsoever with it essential mounting to the kickstand. Anyone else experience this or have any suggestions?
Here’s an example of how the top is level but the sides are not because of the warp. Top left leans towards me where the top right leans away.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	FB976639-D8CF-4D7D-924C-00869539C833_1539610050363.jpg
Views:	173
Size:	61.5 KB
ID:	2468780   Click image for larger version

Name:	727729D3-82BF-4EA1-B270-CCB8E651D2C6_1539611279668.jpg
Views:	177
Size:	22.5 KB
ID:	2468784  

Last edited by Riversfan; 10-15-2018 at 07:48 AM.
Riversfan is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #1054 of 3133 Old 10-15-2018, 07:33 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: New York
Posts: 5,514
Mentioned: 194 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4543 Post(s)
Liked: 5536
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cam1977 View Post
It's a defective set because he sees banding??? If that were the case then every single owner of an oled would have a defective set. No such thing as a completely band free set...cmon now.
He shouldn't see any noticeable banding with the A9 while watching content. <- Period.

Sony's commitment for this set is excellent uniformity and if he's seeing banding that's making content un-watchable, then the set is out of spec and should taken back for replacement in my opinion.
Daryl L, shoman94 and DanBa like this.

John
Sony 55A1E, A9F / LG 55OLEDC8
Marantz 7012, Ohm Walsh Speakers
Klein K10-A, Jeti 1501, Murideo Six-G Gen2
Calman Ultimate, ISF Level III Certified
jrref is online now  
post #1055 of 3133 Old 10-15-2018, 08:04 AM
AVS Forum Addicted Member
Industry Insider
 
Cleveland Plasma's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
Posts: 24,768
Mentioned: 82 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6785 Post(s)
Liked: 6783
Quote:
Originally Posted by J0HNNY H0PK1NS View Post
Out of all the dumb comments this one takes the cake. We aren’t watching 5% slides for fun. We’re watching them to prove a point. The picture is not what it should be for $4000+. For that price I want it to be perfect.

I’m sitting here with my 65A9F watching The Haunting on Hill House and the banding on the darker scenes is unbearable. After 100+ hours and a refresh it’s just as garbage as the $1800 LGC7.

Shouldn’t have a fault, shouldn’t see banding and I should be 100% satisfied.

I’m annoyed.
This thread shows the TV is not perfect, even though Sony may have over extended themselves with there "Master Series" comments. With that said, what are you going to get that is perfect, Z9D before they are sold out?
Cam1977 likes this.
Cleveland Plasma is offline  
post #1056 of 3133 Old 10-15-2018, 08:05 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 97
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 49 Post(s)
Liked: 33
lots of new owners, congratulations. would anyone like to test if the TV can accept 1440p 120 Hz from an Nvidia card without disabling or downgrading the upscaling quality? you will have to create a custom resolution for this as it's not natively listed as a supported resolution.

A1E, a9f soon
Interpolation is offline  
post #1057 of 3133 Old 10-15-2018, 10:37 AM
Advanced Member
 
DanBa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 938
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 277 Post(s)
Liked: 906
Quote:
Originally Posted by jrref View Post
He shouldn't see any noticeable banding with the A9 while watching content. <- Period.

Sony's commitment for this set is excellent uniformity and if he's seeing banding that's making content un-watchable, then the set is out of spec and should taken back for replacement in my opinion.
Every high-end TV maker should make such a commitment.

jrref and StayingSalty like this.

Universal audio/video receiver (Dolby Atmos, DTS:X, etc.) is achieved.
Universal HDR TV (HDR10, Dolby Vision, HEVC HLG HDR, VP9-HLG / VP9-PQ YouTube HDR, Dynamic HDR) is required.

Push for universal HDR TV!
DanBa is online now  
post #1058 of 3133 Old 10-15-2018, 11:06 AM
Senior Member
 
Dunnie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 214
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 116 Post(s)
Liked: 86
My question is what is the threshold ... My set looks amazing ... But I do notice a bit of a uniformity issue on the menu screen ... Isn't here a test screen I should be using ?
Quote:
Originally Posted by DanBa View Post
Every high-end TV maker should make such a commitment.

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
Dunnie is offline  
post #1059 of 3133 Old 10-15-2018, 11:10 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 21
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 21 Post(s)
Liked: 3
Settings for 4K and HDR

The documentation which came with the tv does not provide any guidelines. For HD, I am using the "custom" picture mode. For 4K and HDR, should it be "vivid?
tomtb16 is offline  
post #1060 of 3133 Old 10-15-2018, 11:29 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
helvetica bold's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: NYC
Posts: 2,523
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1778 Post(s)
Liked: 1143
Sorry if I asked this before but how's gaming on the A9F? Any dimming issues? Vincent mentioned game mode uses the most accurate color temp where other manufactures don't. Is he referring to LG and pervious Sony models?

LG65C9, XBOX ONE X, PS4PRO, APPLE 4K, SONY STRDN1070, TAKE CLASSIC 5.1
helvetica bold is online now  
post #1061 of 3133 Old 10-15-2018, 11:41 AM - Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
khollister's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 399
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 79 Post(s)
Liked: 100
Quote:
Originally Posted by tomtb16 View Post
The documentation which came with the tv does not provide any guidelines. For HD, I am using the "custom" picture mode. For 4K and HDR, should it be "vivid?
No, you should also use Custom - the TV will automatically set the Brightness & Peak Luminance to Max for HDR content.
jrref likes this.

Emotiva XMC-1 (w 4K board) & XPA-5, B&W CM9s2, CM8s2, CMC, Hsu VTF-15, Auralic Aries, Apple TV 4K, Sony 65A9F & Panasonic UB820
khollister is offline  
post #1062 of 3133 Old 10-15-2018, 12:16 PM
AVS Forum Club Gold
 
Keenan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Santa Rosa, CA
Posts: 34,236
Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4035 Post(s)
Liked: 3748
Quote:
Originally Posted by Riversfan View Post
Here’s an example of how the top is level but the sides are not because of the warp. Top left leans towards me where the top right leans away.
What I would do is remove the display from the mount and then check to see if it still has that twist to it as it could very well be the mount that's twisting it. I've only seen two of these display close up, my own(easel stand) and the wall-mounted one at MagHiFi and neither of them has that sort of twist in it.
zeromothra likes this.
Keenan is online now  
post #1063 of 3133 Old 10-15-2018, 12:21 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 16
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 12 Post(s)
Liked: 5
Quote:
Originally Posted by Riversfan View Post
Here’s an example of how the top is level but the sides are not because of the warp. Top left leans towards me where the top right leans away.
Mine is also not a 100% straight line. Both the first A9F and the second one were like this. When I received the first set, I immediately went to a local store. It seems that all OLED and QLED sets are like this, even the W picture on a glass LG.
I believe they are so thin that it's almost impossible to get a perfect line, whatever the technology or the brand.
I also noticed that the reflection of a picture will vary from one edge to the other. The glass on top is not perfectly linear on all sets (from all brands) I've seen.


However, there's absolutely 0 impact on the viewing experience.

Cheers,
khollister likes this.
bleuecinephine is offline  
post #1064 of 3133 Old 10-15-2018, 01:32 PM
Member
 
Riversfan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 27
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by bleuecinephine View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Riversfan View Post
Here’s an example of how the top is level but the sides are not because of the warp. Top left leans towards me where the top right leans away.
Mine is also not a 100% straight line. Both the first A9F and the second one were like this. When I received the first set, I immediately went to a local store. It seems that all OLED and QLED sets are like this, even the W picture on a glass LG.
I believe they are so thin that it's almost impossible to get a perfect line, whatever the technology or the brand.
I also noticed that the reflection of a picture will vary from one edge to the other. The glass on top is not perfectly linear on all sets (from all brands) I've seen.


However, there's absolutely 0 impact on the viewing experience.

Cheers,
I would gladly trade the twist my whole panel has for the common bend at the top. It’s over a 1” different from top to bottom on my set. The left side is level, so is the wall so measurements from the wall to the tv are identical. The right side wall is level, but the screen is not, and top is over 1” closer to the wall than the bottom. I’ve mounted a few hundred TVs in my time and have never seen anything like this, but I’ve also never mounted an oled.
Riversfan is offline  
post #1065 of 3133 Old 10-15-2018, 01:52 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Cam1977's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: El paso
Posts: 5,477
Mentioned: 33 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3066 Post(s)
Liked: 3787
Quote:
Originally Posted by jrref View Post
He shouldn't see any noticeable banding with the A9 while watching content. <- Period.

Sony's commitment for this set is excellent uniformity and if he's seeing banding that's making content un-watchable, then the set is out of spec and should taken back for replacement in my opinion.
Wrong...period, that sounds like a guarantee. These are oled panels developed by LGD not Sony and carry with them the same inherent issues. Their are plenty of owners here that have seen banding...so that means that either Sonys QC sucks or your embellishing and creating this narrative that because it's s Sony it will be perfect. Imagine all the returns especially in the Avs community searching for the most uniform panel...Just because Sonys marketing says one thing doesn't mean it's gonna happen.

Last edited by Cam1977; 10-15-2018 at 02:22 PM.
Cam1977 is online now  
post #1066 of 3133 Old 10-15-2018, 02:11 PM
Member
 
HDMII's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 32
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 17 Post(s)
Liked: 3
Quote:
Originally Posted by Riversfan View Post
I picked up my 65” a9f last night got as far as hanging it up and viewing a few minutes of content. I did notice a slight warp or twist in the panel. The left side is perfectly striaight, where the right side leans back. I’m not sure that this is due to the mount or if that would have any impact whatsoever with it essential mounting to the kickstand. Anyone else experience this or have any suggestions?
I´m on my second A9F set and I can tell that the first one was slightly concave but not very uniform across the panel (looking through the upper or bottom edge of the panel). The second one I got in exchange is also concave but very uniform/symmetrical across the panel (the "bow" shape for lack of better wording). I would say it is normal as I also checked A9Fs on display at some local stores and they all were slightly concave/warped as well.

Sony AF9 - 55"
Panasonic UB824
Hama Premium HDMI cable
HDMII is offline  
post #1067 of 3133 Old 10-15-2018, 02:21 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Daryl L's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: North Carolina, USA
Posts: 3,473
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 654 Post(s)
Liked: 450
If you see banding while watching normal content it is too excessive and you should return the set for a replacement. If you do not see banding while viewing normal content then don't go putting test patterns looking for problems/errors. Because you are going to find some issues and it's going to bug you. Searching for problems you don't see during regular viewing is a recipe for disaster. And you can't consider the numbers of people on these forums as a majority having problems. Because we are only a small minority. And just because somebody is not on these forums does not mean they don't know anything about this stuff. We on this forum are mostly early adopters and know to expect these types of things as early adopters. If you can't deal with the consequences as an early adopter you can't go looking for the latest and greatest.
shoman94, Cylob and jrref like this.

Sony XBR-55A9F OLED
Samsung SMT-H3272 HDC DVR Cable Box / Panasonic DP-UB820 4K BD Player
Roku Premium+ 4k / AppleTV 4K 4th Gen
Denon AVR-X4500H AV Receiver / Klipsch 5.1.2 Speakers

Last edited by Daryl L; 10-15-2018 at 06:53 PM.
Daryl L is offline  
post #1068 of 3133 Old 10-15-2018, 02:21 PM
Member
 
Riversfan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 27
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by HDMII View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by Riversfan View Post
I picked up my 65” a9f last night got as far as hanging it up and viewing a few minutes of content. I did notice a slight warp or twist in the panel. The left side is perfectly striaight, where the right side leans back. I’m not sure that this is due to the mount or if that would have any impact whatsoever with it essential mounting to the kickstand. Anyone else experience this or have any suggestions?
I&#180;m on my second A9F set and I can tell that the first one was slightly concave but not very uniform across the panel (looking through the upper or bottom edge of the panel). The second one I got in exchange is also concave but very uniform/symmetrical across the panel (the "bow" shape for lack of better wording). I would say it is normal as I also checked A9Fs on display at some local stores and they all were slightly concave/warped as well.
I greatly appreciate this feedback. Thank you.
Riversfan is offline  
post #1069 of 3133 Old 10-15-2018, 03:25 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 381
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 295 Post(s)
Liked: 195
Does anyone know if BFI increases input lag?

Sony 55A9F
LG 55B6
Micolash is offline  
post #1070 of 3133 Old 10-15-2018, 05:57 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
CHASLS2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Tampa FL area
Posts: 3,181
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1105 Post(s)
Liked: 496
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cam1977 View Post
Wrong...period, that sounds like a guarantee. These are oled panels developed by LGD not Sony and carry with them the same inherent issues. Their are plenty of owners here that have seen banding...so that means that either Sonys QC sucks or your embellishing and creating this narrative that because it's s Sony it will be perfect. Imagine all the returns especially in the Avs community searching for the most uniform panel...Just because Sonys marketing says one thing doesn't mean it's gonna happen.
They all have some banding. None is 100% free.
VidPro, PaulDuBious and Cam1977 like this.

Sony 65" A1E Pioneer Elite DV-59 AVI
OPPO203,103&83 Sony BD player
Pioneer Elite SC61 AVR Acurus 200x 3
Paradigm 60V5'S 490 CC V5
B&W 685 S2's 2 SVS subs
CHASLS2 is offline  
post #1071 of 3133 Old 10-15-2018, 06:12 PM
Member
 
telon175's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 160
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 99 Post(s)
Liked: 27
I was looking at this TV myself. But after seeing a few problems I may just go with TCL I have a 55 inch one that cost 399 I believe have had no issues at all with it, I see the ones that got the P-6 model have had problems with banding they say it is kind of a lottery, I can keep turning it back in to BB until i get one I like. I feel like there should be no issues with the what the AF9 for what it cost. I may just keep my Panasonic 1080P IPS 55 inch TV have had it for 5 years or better and still looks good 4 k has been out long enough that they should have good quality. I don't remember it taking this long for 1080 P to be reliable. maybe in a year or two they will figure out how to have no banding and the other
issues the new tv's seem to have
VidPro and Cam1977 like this.
telon175 is offline  
post #1072 of 3133 Old 10-16-2018, 05:43 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 113
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 71 Post(s)
Liked: 23
does anybody know if there is a way to get into the service menu on sonys and turn off the asbl or is it not possible like LG
Heavymetalhead55 is offline  
post #1073 of 3133 Old 10-16-2018, 06:16 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: New York
Posts: 5,514
Mentioned: 194 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4543 Post(s)
Liked: 5536
Quote:
Originally Posted by telon175 View Post
I was looking at this TV myself. But after seeing a few problems I may just go with TCL I have a 55 inch one that cost 399 I believe have had no issues at all with it, I see the ones that got the P-6 model have had problems with banding they say it is kind of a lottery, I can keep turning it back in to BB until i get one I like. I feel like there should be no issues with the what the AF9 for what it cost. I may just keep my Panasonic 1080P IPS 55 inch TV have had it for 5 years or better and still looks good 4 k has been out long enough that they should have good quality. I don't remember it taking this long for 1080 P to be reliable. maybe in a year or two they will figure out how to have no banding and the other
issues the new tv's seem to have
A Quote from another thread:
Just as an fyi moving forward...... this is not the “I’m going to explain why I’m not buying a A9F” thread.

This is the “Owners thread”. It’s a place to discuss the actual experience with the display to the benefit of other owners and honest, prospective owners.

John
Sony 55A1E, A9F / LG 55OLEDC8
Marantz 7012, Ohm Walsh Speakers
Klein K10-A, Jeti 1501, Murideo Six-G Gen2
Calman Ultimate, ISF Level III Certified
jrref is online now  
post #1074 of 3133 Old 10-16-2018, 07:07 AM - Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
khollister's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 399
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 79 Post(s)
Liked: 100
While I have been using the Dolby Vision Bright PM to watch DV content, I was talking to John (jrref) yesterday and he offered another DV “hack” - run DV Dark with gamma set to +2. I tired it last night and it seems to achieve the same subjective brightness as the Bright PM but without the potential highlight clipping that the Bright PM can introduce.

I suspect this is going to eventually be fixed by Sony with a firmware update (especially when the signal generator manufacturers release DV profile 5 test patterns so the Sony DV PM can be measured), but this is another option for those of us using an ATV to view Netflix or iTunes DV content. UHD Blu-ray stuff is easy since you can just turn off DV in most players and force HDR10.
Daryl L and jrref like this.

Emotiva XMC-1 (w 4K board) & XPA-5, B&W CM9s2, CM8s2, CMC, Hsu VTF-15, Auralic Aries, Apple TV 4K, Sony 65A9F & Panasonic UB820
khollister is offline  
post #1075 of 3133 Old 10-16-2018, 07:16 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: New York
Posts: 5,514
Mentioned: 194 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4543 Post(s)
Liked: 5536
^^^
Workaround

John
Sony 55A1E, A9F / LG 55OLEDC8
Marantz 7012, Ohm Walsh Speakers
Klein K10-A, Jeti 1501, Murideo Six-G Gen2
Calman Ultimate, ISF Level III Certified
jrref is online now  
post #1076 of 3133 Old 10-16-2018, 07:19 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 113
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 71 Post(s)
Liked: 23
Quote:
Originally Posted by khollister View Post
While I have been using the Dolby Vision Bright PM to watch DV content, I was talking to John (jrref) yesterday and he offered another DV “hack” - run DV Dark with gamma set to +2. I tired it last night and it seems to achieve the same subjective brightness as the Bright PM but without the potential highlight clipping that the Bright PM can introduce.

I suspect this is going to eventually be fixed by Sony with a firmware update (especially when the signal generator manufacturers release DV profile 5 test patterns so the Sony DV PM can be measured), but this is another option for those of us using an ATV to view Netflix or iTunes DV content. UHD Blu-ray stuff is easy since you can just turn off DV in most players and force HDR10.
thats exactly that settings ive been using made dv content much better
Daryl L and khollister like this.
Heavymetalhead55 is offline  
post #1077 of 3133 Old 10-16-2018, 10:05 AM
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 555
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 419 Post(s)
Liked: 162
Forcing hdr 10 on dv content makes no sense. You buy a dv equipped tv, a dv equipped BD player and then you are trying to force hdr10 through the signal chain on dv discs, doesnt make sense. then that is no different than having a tv and player that just does hdr10 and not dv, Whats the point of buying dv then? keep dv in the signal chain, you should play with the gamma setting and contrast enhancer option on the sony tv to brighten the image a little, however turning gamma too high is also not recommended, sony maps the white point on dv and hdr10 from the sdr white point calibration/setting you would have done, if you are artificially 'inflating' the gamme curve beyond that, the colors would suffer, as in deviating further off from being accurate.
JLaud25 is offline  
post #1078 of 3133 Old 10-16-2018, 10:15 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
bobbino421's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: New York City
Posts: 2,008
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1296 Post(s)
Liked: 818
Quote:
Originally Posted by JLaud25 View Post
Forcing hdr 10 on dv content makes no sense. You buy a dv equipped tv, a dv equipped BD player and then you are trying to force hdr10 through the signal chain on dv discs, doesnt make sense. then that is no different than having a tv and player that just does hdr10 and not dv, Whats the point of buying dv then? keep dv in the signal chain, you should play with the gamma setting and contrast enhancer option on the sony tv to brighten the image a little, however turning gamma too high is also not recommended, sony maps the white point on dv and hdr10 from the sdr white point calibration/setting you would have done, if you are artificially 'inflating' the gamme curve beyond that, the colors would suffer, as in deviating further off from being accurate.
DV depending on the movie/content is not always the better choice! So in that case it would make sense! DV is not always the superior format!

Sony 55 A9F
Panasonic DP-UB820
Sony UBP-X700
Samsung HW-K950 Dolby Atmos sound bar
bobbino421 is online now  
post #1079 of 3133 Old 10-16-2018, 10:20 AM
Member
 
samboy87's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 97
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 76 Post(s)
Liked: 40
Quote:
Originally Posted by JLaud25 View Post
Forcing hdr 10 on dv content makes no sense. You buy a dv equipped tv, a dv equipped BD player and then you are trying to force hdr10 through the signal chain on dv discs, doesnt make sense. then that is no different than having a tv and player that just does hdr10 and not dv, Whats the point of buying dv then? keep dv in the signal chain, you should play with the gamma setting and contrast enhancer option on the sony tv to brighten the image a little, however turning gamma too high is also not recommended, sony maps the white point on dv and hdr10 from the sdr white point calibration/setting you would have done, if you are artificially 'inflating' the gamme curve beyond that, the colors would suffer, as in deviating further off from being accurate.

First of , are you a AF9 owner?
Second , are you a certified ISF calibrator?

If “No” on both question , Why writing like you know it all. Plz just stop troll around in this thread , and go to the Panasonic thread. Don’t just spit out inaccurate things, like it is facts till you can prove them.

|SONY Bravia KD-55AF9|Samsung UE55KS8000|Samsung QE55Q7F|B&W 704 S2|CMC2 S2|ASW10CM S2|HKTS16 Surround|Marantz SR7009|NAD C275BEE|

Last edited by samboy87; 10-16-2018 at 10:24 AM.
samboy87 is offline  
post #1080 of 3133 Old 10-16-2018, 10:22 AM
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 555
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 419 Post(s)
Liked: 162
Quote:
Originally Posted by telon175 View Post
I was looking at this TV myself. But after seeing a few problems I may just go with TCL I have a 55 inch one that cost 399 I believe have had no issues at all with it, I see the ones that got the P-6 model have had problems with banding they say it is kind of a lottery, I can keep turning it back in to BB until i get one I like. I feel like there should be no issues with the what the AF9 for what it cost. I may just keep my Panasonic 1080P IPS 55 inch TV have had it for 5 years or better and still looks good 4 k has been out long enough that they should have good quality. I don't remember it taking this long for 1080 P to be reliable. maybe in a year or two they will figure out how to have no banding and the other
issues the new tv's seem to have
trading the a9f for a 400 bucks tcl junk for the sake of minor banding is not a wise idea. those tcl's i have read have horrid dse. so you're going to keep playing the lotto with tcl and even then you won't find a 100% uniform tcl. i'd rather have the a9f and put up with minor low IRE issues visible <5% of the viewing time..over having a low end 400 bucks tcl lcd. the core PQ difference is cyclopean.
JLaud25 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply OLED Technology and Flat Panels General

Tags
master series , oled , sony a9f

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off