Originally Posted by JLaud25
The point isn't that upscaling cannot make 1080p look 'very good' on a 4k display, it can, the point is that upscaling no matter how good cannot compare pixel to pixel with a 1080p resolution content on the same native resolution tv, end of story. upscaling doesn't add any detail, it has to work with the same pixels and video data available in the content and scale it to a larger grid of pixels. hundred percent a 1080p movie looks better ('tighter') on a 1080p high end display than on the 65" panasonic ez950 oled that i own.
i advise you an experiment, to place a 50 inch 1080p plasma and a 55/ 65 4k oled next to each other, use a hdmi splitter to feed both tv's a 1080p signal and analyze the results from up close.
and i stand by my original statement too, if you dont have access to any native 4k hdr content (which quite a few people around the world still don't), dont get an oled, the money is wasted.
Quality of content makes such a big difference. I stream about 98% of what I watch, Netflix, Amazon, google play, etc. I would consider these some of the best streaming services available, and I am always blown away at how much better a bluray looks when I watch one. 9 feet from a 65" and I have seen good 1080p look just as crisp as any of the 4k stuff I am getting on Netflix. What I really like currently is that 4k streaming is a nice improvement over HD streaming, to the point that 4k stream seem similar as high quality 1080 to my eye. I really should look into a 4k HDR disc player.
To your 50 vs 65 suggestion, of course a 50" screen will look crisper than a 65" screen, this isnt an upscaling problem this is a physics problem. How about two 65" side by side, 1080 native and 4k upscaled, this makes it apples to apples... Havent done it, I cant speak for the particular results, but i have gone back and forth from room to room with a calibrated ST60 and a FZ950 with out of the box settings on a 1080p stream and the content didnt look appreciably different. Given the added contrast of the OLED I hope once calibrated the depth of image has a bit of extra pop over the Plasma, but as I said previously in this thread the better plasmas really do hold up for 1080 content.
Suggesting OLED is a waste of money for people with only 1080p content may be true only if you have a select few plasmas, if the person spending money is only looking at it from a picture quality standpoint. Moving from some beater TV and only having 1080 content, the OLED will be a very nice upgrade. Wanting new tech, or a slim bezel, or bright room performance, or whatever can make the money spent worthwhile.