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Four words: 4k 60-120Hz variable refresh

Four more words: adaptive sync on 2080Ti
Not all of us are concerned with gaming (I'd even assume most of us are not, I wouldn't invest in OLED for hardcore/serious gaming given burn-in risk).
Also, I'm specifically referring to the 77inch models still doesn't make sense to me.
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I totally disagree with your argument here. I'm primarily a gamer. On my PC setup I've been running variable refresh rate for a year and a half now. It's difficult to go from VRR back to fixed refresh displays. So I'm going to be an early buyer of the LG C9 this year. 8K is fairly meaningless to me, as true 4K games are rare on console, and we are just getting to where PCs can run in 4K without a lot of visual compromises. VRR is absolutely a killer feature for gamers.


Also, those other technologies you mention are nowhere near ready for the home yet. OLED on the other hand is a mature technology that you can buy today. You're going to be waiting a long, long time for MicroLED or emissive QD... the rest of us will enjoy our OLEDs in the meantime.
Read my reply to the user who pointed that out to me before you
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A VRR range between 60Hz and 120Hz (currently only possible at 4k) is key for using 96Hz combined with black frame insertion to achieve the double-shutter presentation of 24fps content in a manner similar to projectors.

Mark Rejhon (head of BlurBusters) has recently made some lengthy posts on the subject in various forum threads in this very sub-forum.
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Am I the only one that thinks that is ugly
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C9 is making me a little giddy. My front running for upgrading this year. Especially with the custom tone mapping. Sure, I'll hate myself next year when top emission is released but Im living in the moment!

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HDMI 2.1 with VRR, this is the year, not to mention the improvements to BFI, no more waiting! Now I only wonder how long will I have to wait for the C9 77" to drop around 6k (ok, maybe a little bit of waiting)
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Can’t wait for more in depth information about the C9 and the first hands on reviews. Hope Vincent Teoh will release a video about it.
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Has lg given out pricing yet of all the models? if not when will they do it?
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Has lg given out pricing yet of all the models? if not when will they do it?


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Has lg given out pricing yet of all the models? if not when will they do it?
Often, they'll start leaking possible pricing but wait for Samsung to come out with new-model-year pricing first before committing themselves to MSRP pricing with a press release (sometimes tied to their Spring launch event...).
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C9 77" is my next set unless the 88" loses that ridiculous stand and is actually affordable. Samsung is just dishing out more QLEDs which is terrible unless they fixed the overaggressive local dimming and lower the price to match LG OLED. MicroLED is not ready for prime time in 2019 and not with those seams. Sony will hopefully be interesting in 85" range.
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HDMI 2.1 with VRR, this is the year, not to mention the improvements to BFI, no more waiting! Now I only wonder how long will I have to wait for the C9 77" to drop around 6k (ok, maybe a little bit of waiting)
It's certainly a big year for features. Improved motion is huge for sports fans, not just gamers, and who knows, there might be select sporrs content available to stream at HFR in the future, making 2.1 a nice future proof for anyone caring about motion.

Custom tone mapping and the ability to clip brightness to avoid desaturation are big too. Those features make these even more attractive for colorists and others in the video production industry, and as an added bonus are great for enthusiasts.
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HDMI 2.1 with VRR, this is the year, not to mention the improvements to BFI, no more waiting! Now I only wonder how long will I have to wait for the C9 77" to drop around 6k (ok, maybe a little bit of waiting)
I don't see it going below 7k this year
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C9 looks way better then C8. Not so sure the E9 looking better then E8. Must see in person.

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I don't see it going below 7k this year

It might because the flagship is now the 88" 8K Z9. The 77" 4K should be no more than $5K to make it reasonable. The 77" price in 2018 was outrageous when I got the 65" for $2599.
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C9 looks way better then C8.

How so...

From the pictures I have seen, they look the same...

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I don't see it going below 7k this year
Samsung will be selling their 65" 8K Q900R for $5000 and their 75" 8K Q900R for $7000: https://www.twice.com/video/samsungs...000-retail-vac

This probably sets a (very) comfortable ceiling for the MSRP of LG's 2019 4K WOLEDs.

Discounted pricing broke below $2000 and $5000 for the 65C8 and 77C8 last November if you knew where to look ), so I wouldn't be surprised to see LG open with MSRPs of $5000 and $7000 to shadow Samsungs flagship offerings at that size and then discount down to the $2000, $5000 level by November...
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I thought the C8 was first available to buy in late February? Am I not remembering correctly?
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Samsung will be selling their 65" 8K Q900R for $5000 and their 75" 8K Q900R for $7000: https://www.twice.com/video/samsungs...000-retail-vac

This probably sets a (very) comfortable ceiling for the MSRP of LG's 2019 4K WOLEDs.

Discounted pricing broke below $2000 and $5000 for the 65C8 and 77C8 last November if you knew where to look ), so I wouldn't be surprised to see LG open with MSRPs of $5000 and $7000 to shadow Samsungs flagship offerings at that size and then discount down to the $2000, $5000 level by November...
I think they would have to price lower than $5k for a 65 inch 4k. Didn't the 2018 models start at a lower price point?
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How so...

From the pictures I have seen, they look the same...
Stand on C9 looks sleeker compared to C8.

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I think they would have to price lower than $5k for a 65 inch 4k. Didn't the 2018 models start at a lower price point?
Well I did say ceiling...

But you are correct, the 2018 65C8P launched at $3500: https://www.cnet.com/news/lg-sets-lo...tarts-at-3000/

So it's unlikely to start at an MSRP of $4500 - perhaps that will be the starting MSRP of the 65W9P (which started at $7000 last year ).

Samsung's MSRP price for their flagship 4K QLED is likely to be the more relevant ceiling for the 65C9P...

And the same will probably apply to the W77 (which started at $15,000 last year ) and may come closer to the $7000 launch price of Samsung's 75" 8K QLED/LCD this year...

77C8P started at $9000 last year but I doubt it's going to start that high for the 77C9P - parity with Samsung's 75" 4K QLED/LCD makes more sense.
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This year is too good. HDMI 2.1, VRR, Apple Play...
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Samsung will be selling their 65" 8K Q900R for $5000 and their 75" 8K Q900R for $7000

This probably sets a (very) comfortable ceiling for the MSRP of LG's 2019 4K WOLEDs.

Discounted pricing broke below $2000 and $5000 for the 65C8 and 77C8 last November if you knew where to look ), so I wouldn't be surprised to see LG open with MSRPs of $5000 and $7000 to shadow Samsungs flagship offerings at that size and then discount down to the $2000, $5000 level by November...
Hell, the 77" C8 hit $5000 in August. I don't see why the C9 wouldn't do the same.
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Four words: 4k 60-120Hz variable refresh

Four more words: adaptive sync on 2080Ti
Kind of disappointed in the VRR. Wish it went down to 40 or 48Hz, or supported LFC (Low Framerate Compensation). Would love to have tear-free Xbox One X 4K gaming when the frame rate dips below 60FPS.
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This year is too good. HDMI 2.1, VRR, Apple Play...
It’s interesting because I haven’t seen HDMI 2.1 or VRR highlighted by any of the other major players. I’m assuming it will be available on the other manufacturers 8k models, but LG may provide the cheapest access by having it on all OLED models.

Edit: I just read the press release for Sony’s new models. The 8K Z9G is the only model to reference HDMI 2.1

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LG could go for the jugular by putting the 65” C9 at $2999 msrp out the door...but it will end up being $3499 like last year I’m sure.
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LG could go for the jugular by putting the 65” C9 at $2999 msrp out the door...but it will end up being $3499 like last year I’m sure.
True. And throughout the year it goes through massive drops....
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Have to give it to LG for being consistent and release complete OLED on release.

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Stand on C9 looks sleeker compared to C8.
C9 does look nicer than C8 overall. But to my eyes, B9 actually looks nicer overall. Since it's also getting A9 Gen 2, I am not even sure whether C9 is better than B9 at all this year.
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