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Hmmm more conflicting info: this was taken from the B9 page on the lg site https://www.lg.com/us/tvs/lg-OLED55B9PUA-oled-4k-tv

The HDMI 2.1 standard will be featured across all LG’s OLED models for 2019, enabling support for high frame rates (HFR) up to 120 frames per second, including the LG B9 4K HDR Smart OLED TV w/ AI ThinQ®️ - 65" Class (64.5" Diag), Model # OLED65B9PUA. The new OLED TVs will be compatible with variable refresh rate (VRR) as well as low latency mode (ALLM). They will all feature support for AirPlay 2 and HomeKit...^IFV
I would believe the info coming from LG rather than some magazine. Sounds like the B9 will have HDMI 2.1, an upgraded processor, and the same features as the C9 and above. Personally, I will likely go with the C9 with the better processor, which should provide better upscaling and better motion handling.
The only feature the B8 ‘lacked’ compared to the C8 was support for HFR and HDR together (the B8 supports HFR with SDR but engaging HDR disables support for High Frame Rate).

Until someone spots something from LGs website stating additional features that the Alpha-7 Gen-2 will not support compared to the Alpha-9 Gen-2 processor, the only likely PQ difference between the B9 and the C9 is likely to be HFR support with HDR.

The one area I’d be most concerned about beyond that is BFI with HDR.

The Alpha-9 Gen-2 supports 25%, 50% or 75% BFI with HDR @ 60fps - until it is confirmed that the B9 with Alpha-7 Gen-2 offers the same feature with HDR content, that is the area I’d be most concerned with about another potential PQ difference.

The motion handling and up scaling of the C9 and B9 are almost certainly identical (as was the case for the C8 and B8)...
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Hmmm more conflicting info: this was taken from the B9 page on the lg site https://www.lg.com/us/tvs/lg-OLED55B9PUA-oled-4k-tv

The HDMI 2.1 standard will be featured across all LG’s OLED models for 2019, enabling support for high frame rates (HFR) up to 120 frames per second, including the LG B9 4K HDR Smart OLED TV w/ AI ThinQ®️ - 65" Class (64.5" Diag), Model # OLED65B9PUA. The new OLED TVs will be compatible with variable refresh rate (VRR) as well as low latency mode (ALLM). They will all feature support for AirPlay 2 and HomeKit...^IFV
I would believe the info coming from LG rather than some magazine. Sounds like the B9 will have HDMI 2.1, an upgraded processor, and the same features as the C9 and above. Personally, I will likely go with the C9 with the better processor, which should provide better upscaling and better motion handling.
The only feature the B8 ‘lacked’ compared to the C8 was support for HFR and HDR together (the B8 supports HFR with SDR but engaging HDR disables support for High Frame Rate).

Until someone spots something from LGs website stating additional features that the Alpha-7 Gen-2 will not support compared to the Alpha-9 Gen-2 processor, the only likely PQ difference between the B9 and the C9 is likely to be HFR support with HDR.

The one area I’d be most concerned about beyond that is BFI with HDR.

The Alpha-9 Gen-2 supports 25%, 50% or 75% BFI with HDR @ 60fps - until it is confirmed that the B9 with Alpha-7 Gen-2 offers the same feature with HDR content, that is the area I’d be most concerned with about another potential PQ difference.

The motion handling and up scaling of the C9 and B9 are almost certainly identical (as was the case for the C8 and B8)...
C9 has the better chip period. It’s being used in the 8k TVs. Will the average consumer see the difference? Maybe not but certainly matters to me. For example I’m guessing the B9 won’t be the same 13ms input lag as C9.
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Hmmm more conflicting info: this was taken from the B9 page on the lg site https://www.lg.com/us/tvs/lg-OLED55B9PUA-oled-4k-tv

The HDMI 2.1 standard will be featured across all LG’s OLED models for 2019, enabling support for high frame rates (HFR) up to 120 frames per second, including the LG B9 4K HDR Smart OLED TV w/ AI ThinQ®️ - 65" Class (64.5" Diag), Model # OLED65B9PUA. The new OLED TVs will be compatible with variable refresh rate (VRR) as well as low latency mode (ALLM). They will all feature support for AirPlay 2 and HomeKit...^IFV
I would believe the info coming from LG rather than some magazine. Sounds like the B9 will have HDMI 2.1, an upgraded processor, and the same features as the C9 and above. Personally, I will likely go with the C9 with the better processor, which should provide better upscaling and better motion handling.
The only feature the B8 ‘lacked’ compared to the C8 was support for HFR and HDR together (the B8 supports HFR with SDR but engaging HDR disables support for High Frame Rate).

Until someone spots something from LGs website stating additional features that the Alpha-7 Gen-2 will not support compared to the Alpha-9 Gen-2 processor, the only likely PQ difference between the B9 and the C9 is likely to be HFR support with HDR.

The one area I’d be most concerned about beyond that is BFI with HDR.

The Alpha-9 Gen-2 supports 25%, 50% or 75% BFI with HDR @ 60fps - until it is confirmed that the B9 with Alpha-7 Gen-2 offers the same feature with HDR content, that is the area I’d be most concerned with about another potential PQ difference.

The motion handling and up scaling of the C9 and B9 are almost certainly identical (as was the case for the C8 and B8)...
C9 has the better chip period. It’s being used in the 8k TVs. Will the average consumer see the difference? Maybe not but certainly matters to me. For example I’m guessing the B9 won’t be the same 13ms input lag as C9.
Upscaling and motion handling are a big deal to me and it’s why I’ve been leaning heavily Sony. So if LG can finally close that gap with their newest processor this’d be a winner. Marketing materials are one thing. It’ll come down to how a football game over cable looks.
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Upscaling and motion handling are a big deal to me and it’s why I’ve been leaning heavily Sony. So if LG can finally close that gap with their newest processor this’d be a winner. Marketing materials are one thing. It’ll come down to how a football game over cable looks.
i'm with you on upscaling sub 1080p like cable tv. i've only had LG oleds because the sony's have all had something missing for me, like dimmer brightness, not good for gaming, etc.
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The problem is that we're all guessing. Until the 2019 model are available, it's too early to make any judgments. I hope LG closes the gap with Sony on upscaling and motion handling. Assuming the price differences remain the same, that would make LG the logical choice for most.
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Well i kinda have permission from the wife to upgrade. Hopefully i can get a 55” for $2500 c9 or b9, will definately get geek squad warrenty as i game a bit and son does also. Dont want him to get distracted and leave tv on while im not home etc etc.. I wonder if i should get 2yr or 5yr

You should be able to get a 65" for that much from an authorized seller starting with Memorial Day sales.
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The B9—LG's entry-level OLED TV insomuch as that phrase makes sense—will ship with a 2nd-gen Alpha 7 processor, so it will miss out on some of the big features.

Google around. That is from here:
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019...k-monstrosity/
Not sure why we would believe ArsTech over LG themselves but I think it's safe to say that all of the 2019 OLEDS from LG will have HDMI 2.1.
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Not sure why we would believe ArsTech over LG themselves but I think it's safe to say that all of the 2019 OLEDS from LG will have HDMI 2.1.
sure, but there's a reason why the b9 is on the alpha 7 vs. alpha 9 chipset...so there are going to be some differences otherwise LG wouldn't have 2 different chips.
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Amazon doesn’t have anything up yet.
Dealers do not have pricing yet, seems like these may be a tad later then the past......

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i'm betting with the same as 2018 starting prices at MSRP:

65 - $3,499
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I bet you are right, we will have to wait for street price.......
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i'm betting with the same as 2018 starting prices at MSRP:

65 - $3,499
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I bet you are right, we will have to wait for street price.......
Ya, seems that way. Samsung has already announced theirs a week and a half ago. I'm wondering if the delay is potentially HDMI 2.1 chip related. I'm sure we will find out soon enough.
This is the year I'm finally diving into OLED, so I'm anxious.
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Im afraid once these these do hit the streets they will sell out (of the first batch) fast and go on back order.


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I think the announcement will come March 4th
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Someone posted a German listing for April on the C9 and E9 for 3500 and 4000 EUR respectively
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Someone posted a German listing for April on the C9 and E9 for 3500 and 4000 EUR respectively
Source and how the prices compare to C8 and E8?
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Someone posted a German listing for April on the C9 and E9 for 3500 and 4000 EUR respectively
Source and how the prices compare to C8 and E8?
https://www.4kfilme.de/lg-preise-ter...led-fernseher/

https://youtu.be/0VafNOA9EIs

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Thanks man. I was about to purchase this evening Sony A9F 65" (after spending the past one week time thinking between E8 vs. A9F). Now, I just need to be patient for the E9 to come out, compare and decide, two very difficult months...

Sony 65 A9F, LG 65 E9
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Looks like the demos are in vivid mode. I won't use that mode.
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Well that link was Germany. It’s fairly possible the USA sees the C and E ship end of March as the whole world doesn’t have to ship at same time.

I’m expecting the announcement either this Monday or the following one like years past.
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I'm not sure how 2018 pricing is today since I only follow USA pricing, but I think if the EUR price is 3,499 then we would expect USD price to be $3,499 as well, not actually converted from EUR to USD which would make the 65" C9 almost $4,000 in USD.

$3,499 is where the 65" C8 started in the USA and this German site indicates so starting price point change vs. 2018 so that's why I'm assuming $3,499 will be our USA MSRP.
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B&H is a few blocks away from where I work. Strange their the first out of the gate with preorders.


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Those prices are very high!

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What was the launch price on the 65" E8 last year?
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https://www.theverge.com/circuitbrea...g-release-date

$4500 and $4000 according to this. But I think the C8 actually sold at 3500 out of the gate.
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E9 is a bit pricey and I don't want to wait for it for long to drop. Not considering C9 at the moment. I may go with Sony A9F 65" as the price difference is small.

Sony 65 A9F, LG 65 E9
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I wish LG would make a 4K OLED in some size bigger than 77”. I’d buy it instantly.

I have a 55” C8 in my home gym and it’s great, and a 78” LCD in the family room but don’t want to downsize to get OLED there.
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I wish LG would make a 4K OLED in some size bigger than 77”. I’d buy it instantly.

I have a 55” C8 in my home gym and it’s great, and a 78” LCD in the family room but don’t want to downsize to get OLED there.

Seriously...?

One inch?

You think you would notice the 1 inch size difference?

With all of the benefits of OLED - I could give up 1"...
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Here's to hoping USA is a late March launch...April is so far away
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