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bryantc 01-07-2019 12:39 PM

2019 LG Z9 Signature 8K OLED Anticipation Thread
 
https://www.lg.com/us/tvs/lg-OLED88Z9PUA-oled-tv

https://www.pocket-lint.com/tv/revie...oled-tv-review



The website is up. No pricing yet.


I was wishing for a 88" OLED last year when I bought my C8 as it is the perfect size for my room. That wish has now come true. HDMI 2.1 with VRR that will hopefully work with the new Nvidia driver. And 8K is just a nice bonus. I hope the pricing is not too outrageous.


Who else is in?

bryantc 01-07-2019 12:40 PM

6 Attachment(s)
OLED88Z9PUA

LG SIGNATURE OLED TV Z9 - 8K HDR Smart TV - 88" Class (87.6'' Diag)


Key Features

  • LG ThinQ AI | Google Assistant | Alexa
  • 8K LG OLED Display
  • 88'' Class Display
  • LG α9 Gen 2 Pro Intelligent Processor
  • Dolby Vision | Dolby Atmos


Also:
-HDMI 2.1
-Stand Included
-Built-in Test Pattern Generator for SDR, HDR, and Dolby Vision
-Auto-calibration
-Custom HDR Tone Mapping

Menarini 01-07-2019 12:42 PM

Already a thread? LG hasn't even held their CES presser yet.
I wish I had a tree in the backyard of my house that printed currency bills, then I could have been a part of this thread. Oh well.

teachsac 01-07-2019 07:41 PM

Thread title changed to "Anticipation". We don't start owner's threads until there are owners.

New_to_4K 01-07-2019 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Menarini (Post 57393522)
Already a thread? LG hasn't even held their CES presser yet.
I wish I had a tree in the backyard of my house that printed currency bills, then I could have been a part of this thread. Oh well.

LOL!:p

Kenbar 01-07-2019 08:17 PM

Ah, I'll be wanting one of these 8K babies. Problem is da money. If I sell me house N move inta my old car...na...no space to set it up. Well never the less, can't wait to hear all about them from the lucky folks who are able to get them :)

TravisPNW 01-07-2019 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bryantc (Post 57393496)
I hope the pricing is not too outrageous.


I LOL'ed IRL.

pcdo 01-07-2019 10:52 PM

I anticipate that I won’t be able to afford this.

video_analysis 01-08-2019 08:34 AM

$20k minimum.

fafrd 01-08-2019 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by video_analysis (Post 57398790)
$20k minimum.

Well, on the one hand, the 85" Samsung 8K QLED/LCD has an MSRP of 'only' $15K.

But on the other hand, I suspect LG will be happy if they sell relatively few of the 88" 8K WOLEDs based on bottom-emission.

Among other things, peak brightness can always be increased on WOLED at the expense of lifetime/burn-in immunity and I'm pretty sure LG does not want any regular CNN watchers to get ahold of their first 8K WOLED using bottom-emission...

My long-winded way of saying I suspect you may be right - LG may be happy to launch the 88Z9 at prices that make 85Q900R customers envious but deciding the better balcks (and better framerate) are not worth the premium...

2020, with too-emission, will be LGs true campaign to gain share in the nascent marhet for 8K TVs - the 88Z9 is primarily for bragging rights, perception as a technology leader, and to stay in the game until 2020 when it all starts to become real...

bryantc 01-08-2019 06:18 PM

@fafrd Do you know the native refresh rate of the Z9? I know its still limited to 60hz input for 8K but can it display 120hz 4K natively?

fafrd 01-08-2019 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bryantc (Post 57403058)
@fafrd Do you know the native refresh rate of the Z9? I know its still limited to 60hz input for 8K but can it display 120hz 4K natively?

Don't know anything for certain, but I'm pretty sure that the 88Z9 is limited to a 60Hz refresh rate implemented as a split-column architecture refreshing each half-panel @ 120Hz. The upper half-frame of 2160 lines is refreshed @ 120Hz followed by the lower half-frame of 2160 lines being refreshed at 120Hz. In the end, a full 8K frame is written at 60Hz.

It would be fantastic if the Z9 supported a '4K Refresh Mode' that allowed 4K frames to be written onto the 8K panel at an Effective Refresh Rate of 240Hz (writing 2 columns and 2 rows of 8K pixels at a time into each half-panel), like the 4K WOLEDs, but I don't yet have any information as to whether the Z9 supports a 4K refresh mode or not...

It would be a fantastic feature and should be relatively straightforward to support, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed ;).

jeff43 01-09-2019 01:29 PM

3D?

bryantc 01-09-2019 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeff43 (Post 57408026)
3D?

https://i.imgur.com/TZWrNDK.gif


Seriously though that ship has sailed.

jeff43 01-09-2019 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bryantc (Post 57408964)
https://i.imgur.com/TZWrNDK.gif


Seriously though that ship has sailed.

That was mean, man. After the sock hop I'm going down to the malt shop to ponder the situation.

SED <--- Rules 01-09-2019 07:07 PM

That stand is terrible. Yuck. You can probably wall mount this bad boy right?

bryantc 01-09-2019 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SED <--- Rules (Post 57410168)
That stand is terrible. Yuck. You can probably wall mount this bad boy right?

Yes. The stand is optional. I'm glad its included though since I don't wall mount and I don't have a stand this big.

KidHorn 01-10-2019 10:12 AM

Is the stand just an empty shelf?

My guess is the the prices will be similar to the 77" when they first came out. $25k. A year after release, 2019 models will likely be around $15k. New models will still be at $25k.

bryantc 01-10-2019 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KidHorn (Post 57413204)
Is the stand just an empty shelf?

It appears that way. The R model looks like it is getting the same stand too.

anthonymoody 01-10-2019 12:59 PM

This or its successor is the only thing that I'd trade my display, an 88" Samsung KS9810 FALD from 2016 I got on super close out, for. Can't stomach the thought of a smaller display. When these are $10k or less I'm in. I can wait.

SED <--- Rules 01-10-2019 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anthonymoody (Post 57414254)
This or its successor is the only thing that I'd trade my display, an 88" Samsung KS9810 FALD from 2016 I got on super close out, for. Can't stomach the thought of a smaller display. When these are $10k or less I'm in. I can wait.

I'm a projector enthusiast, but I'm starting to think about that 88 inch OLED. I have a 110 inch screen and a JVC projector. The thing about projectors is that they can't get to the perfect blacks and amazing contrast of OLED. (Although there is a new projector that can, but it costs six figures!) I don't know, we'll see when the 88 inch gets more affordable (10k or less). The bigger these OLEDs get, the more I'm thinking about switching to them from a projector.

Cleveland Plasma 01-13-2019 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pcdo (Post 57397126)
I anticipate that I won’t be able to afford this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by video_analysis (Post 57398790)
$20k minimum.

I wonder if it will be brought to market for sure??

fafrd 01-13-2019 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma (Post 57432408)
I wonder if it will be brought to market for sure??

It'll be brought to market and at a price that will surprise you all (in a good way ;)),

<at least, that is my prediction>

Kenbar 01-13-2019 04:05 PM

$18,000. Me guess.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/83/1f...309028fcbe.jpg

By the time it comes out later this year, the Samsung 8k will have dropped to $12,000. LG, while larger, will need to be competitive. And then they will be coming out with smaller sizes in 8K...and larger possibly.

fafrd 01-13-2019 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenbar (Post 57433082)
$18,000. Me guess.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/83/1f...309028fcbe.jpg

By the time it comes out later this year, the Samsung 8k will have dropped to $12,000. LG, while larger, will need to be competitive. And then they will be coming out with smaller sizes in 8K...and larger possibly.


Woops, I thought we were talking about the rollable 4K 65" and now understand we're talking about the 88" 8K.

Same prediction on it coming out but I don't think the price will make anyone happy - LG does not want to sell any meaningful numbers of these this year (2020 may be different).

As we've seen with LG's 77" WOLED pricing (at least until last year), whe you don't want to sell a large number of a model conpared to the competition, you don't need to offer competetive pricing...

unknownuser200 01-14-2019 12:09 AM

i hear word there will be a 65 coming this fall as well

fafrd 01-14-2019 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unknownuser200 (Post 57434786)
i hear word there will be a 65 coming this fall as well

Probably not from LG Electronics, but likely from Philips and possibly also Sony as well...

toddman36 01-14-2019 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bryantc (Post 57413944)
It appears that way. The R model looks like it is getting the same stand too.

Looks to have a soundbar on the bottom...:confused:

bryantc 01-14-2019 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toddman36 (Post 57439414)
Looks to have a soundbar on the bottom...:confused:

The R model does yes. That's actually what the screen rolls up into. The Z model being discussed in this thread however does not.


New article on Z says support for 120fps HFR:


https://www.pocket-lint.com/tv/revie...oled-tv-review

fafrd 01-15-2019 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bryantc (Post 57439588)
The R model does yes. That's actually what the screen rolls up into. The Z model being discussed in this thread however does not.


New article on Z says support for 120fps HFR:


https://www.pocket-lint.com/tv/revie...oled-tv-review

No, that's only for the 4K 2019 WOLEDs: "LG says its 2019 TVs will also support HFR, or High Frame Rate for smooth, clear motion at 120fps."

The Z is limited to 60Hz (and so will probably support any 'HFR' features it can at up to 60Hz).


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