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The processor in the AF9 is twice is fast at single threaded and three times faster at multi threaded operations.



That Sony rep has no clue what hes talking about.

If true, I wonder if the A8G is essentially just a repackaged A8F?


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There is no if. The A8F has the MediaTek MT5891. The A9F had the MediaTek MT5893.

I would be shocked if Sony was stupid enough to put the old Mediatek in the A8G at this point. It's slow as ****.
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The A8G no longer has the subwoofers so if you're counting on the television's internal speakers then the A8F will have the advantage with audio, otherwise IMO the absence of the subwoofers allow for a more straight forward design. Other than the A8G having the 2019 LGD panel which is said to be more resistant to image retention they appear to be the same in terms of picture quality.

I do think it's a bit humorous that a $3000 TV isn't worthy of Sony's remote, not much of a factor for me as I'll just continue to use my Harmony remote.

At the major retailers anyway the A8F is slighter cheaper.
The bass ports on the A9F were facing sidewards, that you can't see any on the back of the A8G doesn't necessarily say everything.


Only the models with the new SoC seem to have the new remote. People who have ordered the remote for older models like the A1 have reported that it's not 100% compatible (maybe 99% but a few functions don't work). Might be a logical explanation as to why the rest of 2019 models still come with an old remote.


And yes the A8G will 100% have the MT5891, it is simply still on their old ATV3 Android TV platform (that's why it also still only has 2 full bandwidth HDMI ports and doesn't support eARC)
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The bass ports on the A9F were facing sidewards, that you can't see any on the back of the A8G doesn't necessarily say everything.

Only the models with the new SoC seem to have the new remote. People who have ordered the remote for older models like the A1 have reported that it's not 100% compatible (maybe 99% but a few functions don't work). Might be a logical explanation as to why the rest of 2019 models still come with an old remote.


And yes the A8G will 100% have the MT5891, it is simply still on their old ATV3 Android TV platform (that's why it also still only has 2 full bandwidth HDMI ports and doesn't support eARC)

The price difference between the A8G and A9G does not seem to be large enough to justify tolerating the old Mediatek SoC, limitation of only two enhanced HDMI ports, and no eARC. At this point, the C9 is also almost the same price as the A8G.
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It sounds like the consensus is that they’ve created the a8g and it has almost no progress va the a8f. Maybe this is a fairly normal happening, but if it’s true it’d Be quite disappointing. Somebody give me something that has approved before I make a purchasing decision!!
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Why don't consider stepping up to the A9G or even consider the C9? IMO, I don't see anything particularly compelling about the A8G compared to either of those two.
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I think if I liked the LG processor as much I’d def. go to the C9 as the price vs the a8g is close. But because I think more highly of the Sony processor I feel like I have to go to the a9 at $800 more. Decisions
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One other question for the experts here (and I know you will likely cringe at this question but I have to ask it). I have the opportunity to pick up a 65 inch a8f from Fry’s electronics for $1,499. The catch is that it’s a demo model they are getting rid of to make room for the G models. They offer the same exact protection plan that they do with their brand new TVs, which is comprehensive. I can’t find a reason I wouldn’t take this for basically half price considering the protection plan will cover any fix or a new tv if something were to happen. Thoughts?
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Burn in is a definite possibility for a floor model. Will you get to test it with solid colored slides before purchasing?
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Fry's isn't going to offer Burn protection, and working with them on defects and returns has always been a royal pain.


Al that being said, $1500 for a 65" OLED ain't bad.


If you decide to make the jump, just go in eyes open that there will most likely be some issues.

If you see some ghosts from burn in, or weird pixels, just smile at the beauty marks of your bargain and remember it means you are totally justified in replacing it earlier than you normally would when the next gen panels come out cheaper in the next three years.
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The A9G is 3rd in the "next TV to review" queue at rtings but the A8G is in 12 place. I humbly suggest anyone interested in the A8G to cast your vote for it.

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Abt has the 77" in stock
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Frys now covers burn in. It was added to their protection plans recently. I made sure to confirm this. So they may be a pain, but everything is def fully covered which to me means zero risk
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Frys now covers burn in. It was added to their protection plans recently. I made sure to confirm this. So they may be a pain, but everything is def fully covered which to me means zero risk

As Fry’s should, given their prices. Their four year protection is almost as much as Best Buy’s five year. At least for the A9G.


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Frys now covers burn in. It was added to their protection plans recently. I made sure to confirm this. So they may be a pain, but everything is def fully covered which to me means zero risk
The Fry's bankruptcy risk is well above zero.

There's a saying about "everything in moderation". If only it was applied to well, you know...
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Related Question:

I’ve got limited space in my living room, so I can’t do a full surround setup but want good sound that will fill the space (open concept and high ceilings). I’ve pre-ordered an A8G that will be wall mounted. I’m assuming the Acoustic Surface isn’t going to provide enough depth for a room this size.

I’ve been debating purchasing the new Sony HT-X8500 to compensate but am not sure if it makes sense to go that route - given that one of the features of the A8G is the acoustic surface audio. My understanding is that if I use the soundbar, I’d be forgoing the acoustic surface entirely? Anyone have insight into whether those two would be a good pairing?

I can not afford to make the jump to the A9G, so trying to suss out the right option for the available space and my price window.
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Any idea when we will see the a9g on greentoe?

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I’ve got limited space in my living room, so I can’t do a full surround setup but want good sound that will fill the space (open concept and high ceilings). I’ve pre-ordered an A8G that will be wall mounted. I’m assuming the Acoustic Surface isn’t going to provide enough depth for a room this size.

I’ve been debating purchasing the new Sony HT-X8500 to compensate but am not sure if it makes sense to go that route - given that one of the features of the A8G is the acoustic surface audio. My understanding is that if I use the soundbar, I’d be forgoing the acoustic surface entirely? Anyone have insight into whether those two would be a good pairing?

I can not afford to make the jump to the A9G, so trying to suss out the right option for the available space and my price window.

I don't know how much different the 8 is to the 9, but so far my 65 A9G is more than adequate sound wise. We have a very old house with a biggish living room with a 10 ft ceiling and it isn't lacking. A surround system is obviously better, but this is fine for now.

I'd just get the set and try it for awhile before getting something more.
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Still has the older version of Android, yeah those who stated there is nothing new except for the form factor and less powerful subwoofer appear to be spot on. I'm assuming the A8G at least has the 2019 LGD panel.


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The bass ports on the A9F were facing sidewards, that you can't see any on the back of the A8G doesn't necessarily say everything.


Only the models with the new SoC seem to have the new remote. People who have ordered the remote for older models like the A1 have reported that it's not 100% compatible (maybe 99% but a few functions don't work). Might be a logical explanation as to why the rest of 2019 models still come with an old remote.


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The price difference between the A8G and A9G does not seem to be large enough to justify tolerating the old Mediatek SoC, limitation of only two enhanced HDMI ports, and no eARC. At this point, the C9 is also almost the same price as the A8G.
Do you need the newer SoC in order for Android Oreo to work? It appears the answer is Yes. TIA

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no you don't need new SoC for Oreo since AF8 is running it fine now albeit slower.
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Do you need the newer SoC in order for Android Oreo to work? It appears the answer is Yes. TIA

As posted above, the old SoC can run Oreo, albeit less responsively. My two-year-old X930E is still receiving OS updates and has had Oreo available for roughly six months. I am extremely surprised that Sony is shipping the A9G with Nougat.
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As posted above, the old SoC can run Oreo, albeit less responsively. My two-year-old X930E is still receiving OS updates and has had Oreo available for roughly six months. I am extremely surprised that Sony is shipping the A9G with Nougat.
I thought the A9G had Oreo out of the box, still somewhat surprising that the A8G is shipping with Nougat

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I thought the A9G had Oreo out of the box, still somewhat surprising that the A8G is shipping with Nougat

Sorry, that was a typo on my part. I meant A8G. The A9G does indeed ship with Oreo.
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A shame that Sony didn't upgrade the mediatek in the A8G. Still a Sony OLED that costs less than an LG, though. Didn't think I would ever see that.

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A shame that Sony didn't upgrade the mediatek in the A8G. Still a Sony OLED that costs less than an LG, though. Didn't think I would ever see that.
And I like the simplistic design, even better than the LG OLED displays the last couple of years sans the W8 if you weren't saddled with the sound bar.

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And I like the simplistic design, even better than the LG OLED displays the last couple of years sans the W8 if you weren't saddled with the sound bar.
LG really dropped the bar with their recent designs (especially the monstrosity that is the C8 stand). I thought the E6 and G6 looked (and still look) incredible and had solid build quality. Not sure why they moved away from that kind of look. The current designs look toy-ish.

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I'm no pro when it comes to TV's so I'd love some of your advice. We're looking at the A9G 65" (we keep our TV's till they break in-half, so we thought we'd get a nice Sony since we'll have it for a while!)
Anyone having issues with glare on this screen? It'll be in a family room with 2 side windows and one large window directly across from it. Other options for us would probably be Samsung Q9 series - Seems to have a really good picture and I especially like the no gap wall mount on this one.
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I think if I liked the LG processor as much I’d def. go to the C9 as the price vs the a8g is close. But because I think more highly of the Sony processor I feel like I have to go to the a9 at $800 more. Decisions
My brand new A9G has considerably less glare than my old Panasonic plasma. That being said, no display will do well during the day with a large picture window directly across from it. Even my son's Vizio LCD is difficult to see at times across from his large picture window. IMO, the A9G is the best display currently, bar none. Can't you install a room darkening shade?
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